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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 15 2011 13:10 GMT
#9521
I've played both in EU and US

US > EU low-elo imho

no idea about high-elo though
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
March 15 2011 13:13 GMT
#9522
zz so i've been told that korea->japan->usa undersea internet line has been damaged by the EQ and im gonna have unstable ping for a while
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz REAL SAD
i wish riot would give me better ping
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 13:15:42
March 15 2011 13:13 GMT
#9523
On March 15 2011 21:09 Shiragaku wrote:
But do you think their strategy will become the dominant eventually? Basically, like DotA, just farm, avoid confrontations, and end the game in one blow? Or is it impossible to simply farm off of minions the same way in HoN/DotA?

My impression was that LoL is already moving toward where DotA is--where supports aren't in-lane babysitters, but roam and gank/zone for all 3 lanes.

I seem to recall a chinese DotA commentator for a tournament event noting that one team's support had leeched half a level of XP from one of their carries, and that was going to put their team behind midgame.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 15 2011 13:16 GMT
#9524
On March 15 2011 22:13 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 21:09 Shiragaku wrote:
But do you think their strategy will become the dominant eventually? Basically, like DotA, just farm, avoid confrontations, and end the game in one blow? Or is it impossible to simply farm off of minions the same way in HoN/DotA?

My impression was that LoL is already moving toward where DotA is--where supports aren't in-lane babysitters, but roam and gank/zone for all 3 lanes.

LoL is constantly changing because of the new champs, items and constant rebalancing. I would assume that we'll see lots of different dominant strategies over time. I like that, keeps it fresh.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 13:49:56
March 15 2011 13:22 GMT
#9525
On March 15 2011 21:36 spinesheath wrote:
The problem with support + carry bottom is that once mid (Panth, TF, Kass, LeBlanc, ...) hits 6, and typically up to the point where bot hits 9, the carry is just going to get picked off all the time by mid + jungle. The only ones who can prevent that are Alistar and Janna, basically. Soraka/Taric are not strong enough against burst. This strategy crumbles especially when the enemy doesn't run a carry+support bottom lane.

The other thing is what happens when Alistar/Taric/whoever goes to roam and gank/counterjungle? If they have some tanky dude like Cho bottom, you're not going to kill him (as you probably don't have strong enough burst), and you're probably not going to be able to deny him that hard (especially if he and his lanemate balanced the lane well on their side of the lane), while their roamer is going to gank lanes, force summoners (if not kills) out of your solos, and weaken your jungler's jungle control. You can't even send your support to go roam in response, because if Cho has a 1-2 level advantage, he's going to shit on your carry when you leave them alone.

I think carry/support bot would be stronger if most ranged carries really needed the help farming, but as is, carries like MF and Corki shit on people in solo lanes anyway, and the carries that really want to be babysat like Kog-maw or Twitch aren't that strong right now to begin with.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 15 2011 13:38 GMT
#9526
On March 15 2011 22:13 locodoco wrote:
zz so i've been told that korea->japan->usa undersea internet line has been damaged by the EQ and im gonna have unstable ping for a while
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz REAL SAD

i thought RIOT shaked hand with Garena to have LoL in their sever at singapore? Have you checked that out? Also i heard there is a chinese sever.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
March 15 2011 13:41 GMT
#9527
The cho nerfs were huge because he is now reasonable in terms of damage at 0 AP (or AD). He was Tanky-DPS before anyone knew what that was.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
March 15 2011 14:25 GMT
#9528
come play lol sea u noob
cool beans
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 15 2011 15:12 GMT
#9529
On March 15 2011 23:25 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
come play lol sea u noob

Coming from SEA myself, i have to admit SEA sever has a strong background for dota-like games. KingSurf back in the day and KS.MY was dominating the world scene after Loda age ended. After that is StatBoba countinuosly taking games off from the top chinese teams.

One of the big reason why sc2 scene over there is so weak compare to the world =__=.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
March 15 2011 15:33 GMT
#9530
How are people playing on stream right now? Aren't the servers down?
;)))))))))
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
March 15 2011 15:33 GMT
#9531
They're playing on EU servers which go down at a different time.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
March 15 2011 16:21 GMT
#9532
Awesome, server time increased to 12 pm pst.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 15 2011 17:23 GMT
#9533
This is why im smarter than you. I have class on tuesday and dont get home till 3. No painfull waiting process.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
March 15 2011 17:27 GMT
#9534
On March 16 2011 02:23 Two_DoWn wrote:
This is why im smarter than you. I have class on tuesday and dont get home till 3. No painfull waiting process.


Yeah, I wait all day long just to play LoL>_>

Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
March 15 2011 17:37 GMT
#9535
I'm smarter than both of you, I work 9 - 6 so I barely have time for....waitaminute...
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
March 15 2011 17:59 GMT
#9536
One more hour...... i need my fixxxxxxx
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 18:33:34
March 15 2011 18:01 GMT
#9537
Downloaded and installed the EU version to amuse myself during maintenance, and what can I say? The EU server is a fucking laggy piece of trash, I'd regularly lose control of my champion during battles. How can the server be possibly fucked up that badly is beyond me, Jesus Chrysler fgasdfdag

Edit: Seriously, played another game, on the US server I have 200 ping, on the EU I have 350. I live in Europe ?_?
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 15 2011 18:23 GMT
#9538
On March 16 2011 02:59 Haemonculus wrote:
One more hour...... i need my fixxxxxxx

try crack, i heard that works for some people
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
March 15 2011 18:47 GMT
#9539
zomg its up!

nocturne 6300ip if anyones wondering.
aka Sowelulol
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 15 2011 18:54 GMT
#9540
On March 16 2011 03:47 jtbem wrote:
zomg its up!

nocturne 6300ip if anyones wondering.

zzzzzzzzz gay riot
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