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Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
February 12 2016 22:08 GMT
#21
On February 12 2016 07:40 SC2John wrote:
I've heard from multiple players, both high-ranked and low-ranked, that playing high-impact meta Heroes like Jaina, Kael'Thas, Raynor, or Zagara drastically increases their win rates and boosts their rank.
This is true but my advice isn't for smurfing pros who can outplay everybody and win. Zagara is hard to play and Raynor is USELESS if your team/support are a bunch of morons.

On February 12 2016 07:40 SC2John wrote: From my own experience, I think playing Support requires you to have unbelievable patience and excellent shotcalling in order to carry your team. I don't think you realize how bad a lot of players are in Rank 30+, it's a nightmare trying to support anyone lol.
You are correct. But you also have to acknowledge the enemy team isn't that much better then your team as well. If you can identify who is the best teammate and assist him the best you can, this will often leads to better winrates then trying to do all yourself.

Shotcalling is something you should always do no matter what role you are playing anyway.
Priest
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-12 23:19:21
February 12 2016 23:16 GMT
#22
This is not supposed to be a Balance-Whine (although it kinda might sound like it :-P ). Bu my suggestion would be:
1. Get 7'000 Gold
2. Buy Rehgar
3. Pray ("May no one pick Rehgar until it's my turn")
4. Pick Rehgar
5. Get level 16
6. Win
7. Back to 3)

And I'm totally serious about it. I think Rehgar is one of the highest impact heroes in the game and he's just... well... 'a little bit ( :-P ) op right now'.

And I would disagree that (at least in a rank 5-30 game) Assassins have the highest impact. I always feel like a good healer or a good tank can carry bad assassins. The other way round... not so much. Of course a Kael'Thas can win a clash, but even a bad Kael'Thas will do decently well throughout the game. A bad tank who initiates badly all game long cannot be carried at all, because all teamfights are just straight up lost.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
February 12 2016 23:30 GMT
#23
On February 13 2016 08:16 Swisslink wrote:
This is not supposed to be a Balance-Whine (although it kinda might sound like it :-P ). Bu my suggestion would be:
1. Get 7'000 Gold
2. Buy Rehgar
3. Pray ("May no one pick Rehgar until it's my turn")
4. Pick Rehgar
5. Get level 16
6. Win
7. Back to 3)

And I'm totally serious about it. I think Rehgar is one of the highest impact heroes in the game and he's just... well... 'a little bit ( :-P ) op right now'.

And I would disagree that (at least in a rank 5-30 game) Assassins have the highest impact. I always feel like a good healer or a good tank can carry bad assassins. The other way round... not so much. Of course a Kael'Thas can win a clash, but even a bad Kael'Thas will do decently well throughout the game. A bad tank who initiates badly all game long cannot be carried at all, because all teamfights are just straight up lost.


The idea is that at lower ranks you duel/pick off over extenders 1v1 before teamfights. Then at the end of the game you are constantly juggling bad player death timers and win the game, thus your assassin play carried.

So it's not that an assassin can carry harder than a warrior or support during teamfights, but that they can carry outside of the teamfights much more easily.
Don't Panic
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 12 2016 23:30 GMT
#24
Can confirm, went 3 ranks up with Rehgar mostly, he's god tier ATM, it's literally Rehgar vs Li-Ming. You need to have 1 of them or the game gets really hard.

Honestly just pick the most OP heroes, play super safe and shotcall, you should climb ranks regardless of your team mates or elo hell
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 10:16:13
February 15 2016 10:13 GMT
#25
Let's be honest for 2 seconds : if you're good enough you will climb with any hero. I have like 75% winrate on my smurf with lili (at 3k6 - 4k MMR). But getting to rank 1 isn't the end of the world, some people are rank 1 with MMR below 3K.

If you want to play with the best you cannot play only 1 role even if it's support.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
February 15 2016 12:52 GMT
#26
I'm rank 1 with 2500 MMR with my main and I think I'll be rank 1 with 2300 MMR on my smurf. Killed my MMR on this patch TBH.
I'd prefer to have a high MMR than a high rank but it's not like you get to choose ^^.
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