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Pony Express Issue 82: June 29 - July 6, 2009

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Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-08 18:55:35
July 07 2009 05:14 GMT
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The New Staff Member Edition


Letter from the Editor

Dear Readers,

New Staff Member!

- Kau

Staff

Kau – Editor
Bloodyc0bbler – The Stove
Nyovne – IRC Comments
{88}iNcontroL – Troll Booth Willie, The Shit Bus
NeverGG – Progamer Pics
Fontong – VOD of the Week
pangshai – Battle Report
ShoCkeyy – Interviews
Manifesto7 - Chalk Talk, Memory Lane

Table of Contents

Serious Business and Funsies ................ p1
The Stove .............................................. p2
Chalk Talk ............................................. p3
Semi-Funny IRC Comment of the Week ... p4
Progamer Photos ................................... p5
Random Image of the Week .................... p6
A Walk Down Memory Lane .................... p7
Troll Booth Willie .................................... p8
The Shit Bus .......................................... p8
Best of Blogs ......................................... p9
Ban of the Week .................................... p10
Vod of the Week .................................... p11
Interviews .............................................. p12

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  • Pirate Bay loses

  • Aliens! Like that sewer thing below

  • Ow my brain


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  • Rekrul's Birthday!

  • TL's Education Level

  • Where to Date

  • Zerg have infested our sewers!

  • Google Translator game

  • Japanese Trolls

  • Moltke's Birthday!


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French onion soup


Ingredients

* 5 sweet onions (like Vidalias) or a combination of sweet and red onions (about 4 pounds)
* 3 tablespoons butter
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 2 cups white wine
* 10 ounces canned beef consume
* 10 ounces chicken broth
* 10 ounces apple cider (unfiltered is best)
* Bouquet garni; thyme sprigs, bay leaf and parsley tied together with kitchen string
* 1 loaf country style bread
* Kosher salt
* Ground black pepper
* Splash of Cognac (optional)
* 1 cup Fontina or Gruyere cheese, grated

Directions

Trim the ends off each onion then halve lengthwise. Remove peel and finely slice into half moon shapes. Set electric skillet to 300 degrees and add butter. Once butter has melted add a layer of onions and sprinkle with a little salt. Repeat layering onions and salt until all onions are in the skillet. Do not try stirring until onions have sweated down for 15 to 20 minutes. After that, stir occasionally until onions are dark mahogany and reduced to approximately 2 cups. This should take 45 minutes to 1 hour. Do not worry about burning.

Add enough wine to cover the onions and turn heat to high, reducing the wine to a syrup consistency. Add consume, chicken broth, apple cider and bouquet garni. Reduce heat and simmer 15 to 20 minutes.

Place oven rack in top 1/3 of oven and heat broiler.

Cut country bread in rounds large enough to fit mouth of oven safe soup crocks. Place the slices on a baking sheet and place under broiler for 1 minute.

Season soup mixture with salt, pepper and cognac. Remove bouquet garni and ladle soup into crocks leaving one inch to the lip. Place bread round, toasted side down, on top of soup and top with grated cheese. Broil until cheese is bubbly and golden, 1 to 2 minutes.

~taken from alton brown of the food network (love this recipe)

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A short discussion about fence jumping on Outsider.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=96701

A nice lurker/drop strategy BO that everyone can pull off. Give it a try and release Protoss nightmares today!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=96312

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Oh the irony

15:29 CaptainGG_: now we're talking about me and my rubbing of hite players jackets so lets communally fwap over KT in the other channel
15:30 eisley: yeah, tell us all about the rubbing
15:30 CaptainGG_: it's easier to list who I haven't....
15:31 eisley: but i want details
15:31 CaptainGG_: lol
15:32 CaptainGG_: like I'd give Nyo any more ammo for PX



iccup admins are IRC nuubz

13:48 Nyovne licks signus
13:48 Signus: scandalous
13:48 Nyovne: what u gonna do about it
13:48 Signus: bitch about my fantasy team?
13:49 Nyovne: gl
13:49 *** iCCup|deL is now known as licks
13:49 licks: what
13:49 *** licks is now known as iCCup|deL
13:49 iCCup|deL licks Signus
13:50 iCCup|deL: gawd
13:50 Signus: good job
13:50 iCCup|deL: everyone get a load of the IRC noob



almost

14:03 Harem: littlechava: single player lets you use a dark templar that is even stronger than normal dark templar
14:04 vGl-CoW: that nigge one shots hydras
14:04 vGl-CoW: nigga
14:04 vGl-CoW: almost typoed myself into racism
14:04 littlechava: lol
14:07 Stormich: lol
14:07 jtype: lol



Trust me, the man knows what he's talking about

17:31 vGl-RaGe: you'd say forcing someone to sing would be easier than forcing someone to have sex
17:31 vGl-RaGe: it just doesn't work that way



We're anxiously awaiting trial

15:47 caedmon: sorry is the last bit of combat vs chill anywhere? the part that gets cut off in 'on demand' on livestream
15:48 vGl-RaGe: the police took it
15:48 vGl-RaGe: it's evidence in a rape case
15:49 vGl-RaGe: LOLOLOLOLOL
15:49 Xiberia: lolol
15:49 caedmon: lol
15:49 deekay|: ..
15:49 deekay|: what
15:50 Nyovne: lol!!



Carned milk baby

17:45 Kunksmoor: champagne sucks, good wine is wayyy better
17:45 Kunksmoor: but then again you're too young to appreciate that
18:01 Nyovne: sadly women aren't like men or good red wine, they dont get better with age
18:01 Rouq: mine ages like milk
18:01 Kunksmoor: lol
18:01 Nyovne: kekek
18:02 Kunksmoor: i dont really have any signs of getting old though, no worries
18:03 Rouq: A good appriciation of wine!
18:03 Nyovne: lol!
18:03 Kunksmoor: haha



lol at the correction

[22:22] <pachi> yo greth
[22:22] <pachi> what are 5 sc2gg staff and what do they do
[22:23] <Greth> 'Greth'
[22:23] <pachi> do capitals matter in bnet names?
[22:23] <@vGl-CoW> how come i don't know you
[22:23] <Greth> I usually play on sc2gg bnet
[22:23] <pachi> that isn't a real bnet
[22:23] <Greth> yeah
[22:24] <pachi> thats like saying i graduated from special school


Pachi <3

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FuDDx is awesome

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From the vault,

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=14063

A battle report from Arbiter[Frolix]. Before Youtube this is how we got our news, on-site people writing up text for us. In the segment, July sets the record for the shortest OSL game, and some other big players are in the mix.

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On July 03 2009 13:18 Manifesto7 wrote:
T
o be honest, I am disappointed in the TL community right now.
Really, do we have to stoop to this level everytime someone steps out of line?
Obvisouly nobody is perfect, but I don't see how that excuses our behaviour.
Last time we dumped on Klazart, now on Combat.
Lest we forget, we were all noobs at this game at one point. Many still are.
In fact, Combat spent hundreds of hours trying to help people. Isn't that "community"?
Next time I hope we can all come together and just enjoy this great game.
God forbid we forget that it IS, just a game.


The Shit Bus



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  • Aggr0teiL the one post wonder

  • Yay Math

  • DAY9!

  • lilsusie's TL meetup

  • Ask Artosis

  • Grobyc's Battle Report!

  • TL in Singapore!

  • Sit back and laugh

  • Too many cool pics

  • Rage's Encounter with the Cops


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fffff5 was just banned by Kennigit.

That account was created on 2009-06-30 10:48:56 and had 1 posts.

Reason:
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myfriendPlank was just temp banned for 30 days by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2009-04-15 09:05:07 and had 163 posts.

Reason: You are terrible. It has nothing to do with post count. It has to do with the fact that your posts are pretty worthless, ignorant, and instigative, without anything backing them up, and as this is your third ban within the past month and a half, you clearly aren't learning or just don't give a damn. Disrespecting staff (GTR's non-threatening reply vs your sarcastic return comment) is not helping your cause. Either way, enjoy your leave for a bit.


Racenilatr was just temp banned for 30 days by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2008-08-29 08:40:57 and had 2464 posts.

Reason:
Show nested quote +
Maybe I'm not the lazy piece of shit you inconsiderate son of a ritard. I never even looked at any fucking replays. I studied hours worth of fpvods from progamers. Maybe if you had eyes like an asian you would be able to see each individual action progamers do



Two wrongs dont make a right.

You have been banned and warned multiple times, but fail to grasp that you are doing something wrong. Use the next 30 days to contemplate.


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+ Show Spoiler [It's Long and Awesome] +
I've decided to do a battle report on a game I recently played against artosis at the singapore TL lan meet up. In the event that you haven't checked out how that went, here're some links for you.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=97044
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=96959
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=96999

Anyway, so I created the game on the map python just cause I have a good amount of practice on it, being one of those mass python players, and artosis doesn't, since it has rotated out of play like 2 years ago. I choose the easy race (protoss), and the game quickly gets underway with me spawning cream protoss at 6, and artosis with yellow terran at 2. The early game plays out standard with artosis getting a wall in, and me scouting after getting a gateway.

Due to the close starting positions and me finding him on first try, I get into his main before his wall in is complete, and he is forced to pull an SCV, which is later replaced by a marine, to chase my probe. Because of his 1 fac CC (before third supply) build, artosis only has 1 marine, and is unable to kill my scouting probe, which gathers a tonne of valuable information, and only dies after he gets his tank out.

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With this information, I know it is safe to do one of those ridiculously risky builds like 1 gate range double expo. In fact, since he has no information on what build I am doing, having lost his scout a while back, I press my advantage further by pretending to get aggressive with goons at his nat, forcing him to only expand after a third tank and siege mode. When he finally does establish his nat, my third has already warped in, and I probably have a huge economic advantage.

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I quickly add 3 more gates for 4 and a robotics facility for observers, while artosis has decided to do some fast scan with ebay, which according to idra is a confused version of the fantasy build, also with a starport thrown into the mix. As soon as his dropship is out, artosis quickly loads a drop of 1 tank and 2 vults and flies across the map, and takes out a huge group of probes due to my poor reaction time, having been distracted by 2 vultures dancing at his choke. By the time I pull my probes, I'd already lost 13, and he simply unsieges and flies out with his entire drop, his vultures having sustained some minor damage from returning goons, after scouting out my entire main.

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The threat is not over yet though, as artosis quickly discovers the location of my third base at my mineral only, and drops a tank in the 8 main to fire down on my helpless probes, while a vulture lays mines at the ramp of 8 to hinder the goons. With my shuttle still being warped in from aiur, I had to send my goons via the mined ramp, but they make it there eventually, to which artosis just responds by loading up his tank and flying it to my main where it is finally taken out. Thankfully this time the probe casualties are minimised and the only thing lost is mining time, but unfortunately the dropship gets away. (After the game, fakesteve'll tell me that I let the drop fuck me up too badly).

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Having handled the drop, my obs at artosis' choke notices only 3 tanks for defense, and only 4 fac, and I start wondering where all his units are. I reason that since he went for a drop, maybe he's compromised on his macro, and only has 3 tanks, and with my new shuttle loaded with zealots, and roughly 2 groups of dragoons, I head into his nat for a bulldog style bust.

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What naive thinking. I'm playing a top american player (and as I find out later, the stars have to be aligned for me to beat artosis), and it turns out that his factories were simply rallied above his ramp. As my shuttle flew over to his tanks sieged on his cliff, 6 unsieged tanks and 10 vultures come into view, and I go into panic mode, with multiple options running thorugh my mind. My first thought was to snipe off the command centre and retreat, and I quickly put that thought into action. However, my shuttle zealots had been unable to take out the cliff tanks, and with artosis making a very decisive action of putting another 2 tanks in siege mode on his cliff while sending the rest of his army down the ramp, I quickly pulled my units out to minimise casualties. At this point, artosis was floating a CC over to his island and dropping a bunch of SCVs off, with his supply at 118, while my fourth base at the 8 main was coming up, but my supply at a dwindling 100. Thankfully, artosis was still only on 4 fac, and was probably opting to play it safe, not pushing against my 7 gateways, instead sitting back and macroing up on a 3 base economy.

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Shortly after the failed bulldog at artosis' nat, I catch a group of vultures out in the centre of the map as artosis is macroing, and I take them all out, evening the supply counts slightly. With my 4th base up, I move up to 9 gates, with speed completing, while artosis gets a 7th fac, and prepares to push out with his army. What happens now is the standard protoss/terran dancing, with protoss trying to pick off stray vultures, and forcing terran to siege and push his way very slowly across the map to not lose too many units, delaying for more units to finally engage the push with.

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During these back and forth shennanigans, I fly a shuttle over the top of all of artosis' units, with a drop of 4 zealots to take out the SCVs at his island at top right. My macro starts slipping slightly and I accumulate 2.6K minerals cause I miss a round or 2 of production from my 11 gates (also a problem of too few gates). However, my observer catches sight of all his tanks unsieging, and his vults out of position to defend his tanks. He was probably unsieging just as my zealots hit his island, and was slightly distracted, preparing a drop of 4 vultures to save his island. I run my army up near his tanks before he finally notices, and he tries to retreat and pull his vultures in front of his tanks, sieging only when all my zealots were dead. Our armies battled, and at the end of it, both armies suffered major casualties, him surviving with a mere defense matrixed tank and 3 vultures, and me with 4 dragoons.

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Having relied on that push to provide cover for him to expand, artosis' freshly completed mineral only was now defenseless, and he sents most of his army there expecting an attack. Beginning to accumulating a lot of money due to poor macro (2.4K minerals), I take the 8 nat expansion, and start more gateways to replenish my army, also ordering a probe to build an arbiter tribunal that I later discover, did not start T.T. I'd previously scouted artosis taking his mineral only and the top left corner expo, and I decide to send my new army up to take it out.

In the meantime, artosis is sneaking 4 tanks from his mineral only to my expansion at 8. Due to lack of obs at his min only, I fail to notice the tanks moving across the centre of the map, and although they pass within sight range of my army, I am too preoccupied with his vultures, and he makes it up the ramp. This proves to my undoing, as my main, nat and 3rd are now running dry, and by successfully taking the ramp, he'd be able to take out 8 and force a cancel on the 8 nat. After the game, artosis jokingly remarked that he does that every game, making the protoss army chase his vultures all over the map, while he sneaks 4 tanks over, then plants a whole bunch of mines to prevent the army from saving the expo. Indeed an advanced tactic.

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My initial reaction is to go save the expansion, but I decide against it as I have no ob with my army and walking through the minefield and the tanks on the cliff would mean major losses to my army. I instead attack his min only, taking it out and killing a good number of SCVs, while taking bottom right, as my 3rd is now out, and my main and nat are running dangerously low. Now, artosis is the one who has been macroing poorly, accumulating 2.1K minerals on his island, nat and the min only that he just lost. This showed in the supply counts as I was far ahead with 165 to his 125. In fact, at this moment, his nat was defended by a mere 5 tanks and 7 vultures, which I could've easily broken with my 2 groups of goons and 1.5 groups of zealots. I even had an ob there. Don't know what I was thinking !@#%!@#!@#. He did have +2 weapons though.

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Anyway, shortly after losing his min only, artosis sends 2 SCVs down to the bottom right expo where my nexus is warping in. The 7 vults previously mentioned, immediately head down, as my army moves northwest to take out the corner expo that had been left untouched due to the spidermines protecting it (but did not have any SCVs anyway). The vultures quickly killed all the probes (that I had sent from my depleted min only), and laid waste to the nexus before my army could come save it.

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With my main and nat down to a total of 500 minerals or so combined, things are looking grim for me, with artosis' island still running at full tilt. I start an expansion at the 12 nat, but artosis is already maxed, and is simply waiting for +3 weapons before committing to any attack. Once it completes, he rolls out, I engage with my 180 supply army, but +3 weapons is too strong, and my only hope is his tanks splash killing each other from zealot bombs. Unfortunately he targets my shuttle with his goliaths, and it dies in a single volley, and my goons melt quickly under tank fire. I tap out before my entire army becomes blue goo, feeling pretty good about myself.

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replay link: http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=16170&key=15781f
If you're interested, also check out the games vs idra. They were not quite as close though. I forgot storm T.T. Overall some good games were played, and we all had plenty of fun. Hope there's another outing soon (though not too soon. like maybe december or something when I'm next back).


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Question of the Week
Who do you think is the new PX staff member?

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Moderator
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 07 2009 05:18 GMT
#2
nicely done
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
July 07 2009 05:18 GMT
#3
I'm the new PX member!

btw I think Raithed's ban should be added to the Ban of the Week!
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-07 05:27:28
July 07 2009 05:24 GMT
#4
The roflMe series of bans should also be added

roflMe was just temp banned for 30 days by Kennigit.

That account was created on 2009-05-27 12:24:20 and had 40 posts.

Reason: We changed our minds. You are terribad.


roflMe was just banned by zatic.

That account was created on 2009-05-27 12:24:20 and had 40 posts.

Reason: Changed our minds again. Perm banning your accounts is like kicking someone who is already down in the face, and really feeling good about it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 07 2009 05:29 GMT
#5
Great PX! Loved the battle report.
✌
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
July 07 2009 05:41 GMT
#6
pangshai vs artosis was sick
POGGERS
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
July 07 2009 05:48 GMT
#7
Great issue. Thanks a bunch Kau! Too bad you posted this before the Raithed incident. I think we have a new Ban of the week
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 07 2009 05:50 GMT
#8
wtf I got the first temp on RoflMe credit plz

and yeah Raithed needs to be added.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-07 05:54:34
July 07 2009 05:54 GMT
#9
Its not a penis!!!!



Edit good job once again.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Balloon-Man-FuDD/237447769616965?ref=hl
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
July 07 2009 05:58 GMT
#10
Good right up. Interesting like always, i <3 pony express.
U Gotta Skate.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
July 07 2009 06:07 GMT
#11
thanks for px! good job guys
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 07 2009 06:11 GMT
#12
good battle report and awesome irc quotes :D
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
July 07 2009 07:40 GMT
#13
That battle report was insane. Great PX!
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
July 07 2009 07:41 GMT
#14
Thanks for another great issue Kau
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
July 07 2009 07:51 GMT
#15
Woot, I made a ban of the week!
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 07 2009 07:55 GMT
#16
good job as always, I dunno how you do it every week
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 07 2009 08:05 GMT
#17
RAITHED WAS BANNED

RAITHED WAS BANNED

RAITHED WAS BANNED

WOOOOOO~~~!!


Now to get a spoiler on that BR ;D.

Thanks for the issue <3
Peace~
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
July 07 2009 08:44 GMT
#18
On July 07 2009 17:05 fanatacist wrote:
RAITHED WAS BANNED

RAITHED WAS BANNED

RAITHED WAS BANNED

WOOOOOO~~~!!


Now to get a spoiler on that BR ;D.

Thanks for the issue <3

This and more caps.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
July 07 2009 08:44 GMT
#19
sorry guys, vod of the week was actually violet vs bogus. fontong got it to me late, so i just did a br of my game vs artosis. here's the game.



#1 midas fan
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
July 07 2009 08:59 GMT
#20
Nice battlereport . And that Rage quote about the rape case evidence just had me laughing so hard when he dumped it on us in IRC haha. Just so good .
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
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