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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
July 04 2009 02:13 GMT
#61
According to the dailykos and the official US military website (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/3/183720/6278), the MacArthur quote is actually from Major Gen Smith. Kinda close enough, though it loses the value of not quoting a big Republican (MacArthur). Does sound like something MacArthur would have said, though.
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
July 04 2009 02:15 GMT
#62
On July 04 2009 11:05 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 11:02 cz wrote:
On July 04 2009 10:24 evandi wrote:
Palin is not stupid. However there is a massive amount of ignorance out there.

I already pointed out so long ago in the 2008 political thread why most of the crap said about her was baseless.

People have insinuated the most vile crap from the very beginning before they knew anything about her other than that she was from Alaska, and the media ignored almost every time Biden or even Obama made a mistake.

Obama cannot complete a sentence without a god damned teleprompter in front of him. Don't tell me that Palin is stupid.


As Letterman said to O'Reiley, "I pause because I think before I say something." However much you dislike Obama, he's a very intellectually smart person. Speaking in a somewhat stuttered way doesn't change that.

And yes, Palin is a moron. Have you ever watched her in any interview? She has political smarts, though.


I've seen her in many interview and most were not bad. I only remember one bad one: the Couric interview.

However much I dislike Obama, I disagree that he is an intellectually smart person. He is just good at presentation in my opinion.


Of course because getting a bachelors degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho outshines a bachelors in political science with foreign relations from Colombia university.

And I mean you're so right. He's not a very smart person. What smart person could graduate with academic distinction from Harvard law school and become editor of the Harvard law review? I mean anyone could do that including you right?

I completely agree with you he's not a very intellectually smart person.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
July 04 2009 02:16 GMT
#63
I wouldn't call Palin stupid. She's said a ton of dumb things - as have former VP Quayle, former President GW Bush, current VP Biden, etc. etc. Palin's mistakes got blown way out of proportion primarily because her political strategy which worked fine in Alaska - "One of you guys and proud of it," doesn't fly on the big stage that includes the big cities.

I for one don't see how, "I can see Russia from my house," (a clear exaggeration, people, obviously not meant literally) is any worse a political snafu than, "...clinging desperately to their guns and religion," in a country where the majority of the population at least claims some sort of faith.

(Of course, if Palin did mean that literally, she's dumber than I thought.)

My big problem with Palin is that she came off as insincere. I disagree with some of Obama's policies and actions in office, but this would be true of any President. He always seems like he means well, he genuinely wants to help. Palin's record just indicates that she likes power and she likes spending money. She may talk the talk about god and moose-hunting, but when it comes to actual policy, there's no good reason to pick her.

Given the potentially shady stuff that came up even during her VP campaign, I suspect something else has shown up and this is just Palin getting out of town before, as they say, the fecal waste matter hits the rotary air impeller.
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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
July 04 2009 02:16 GMT
#64
On July 04 2009 11:15 Mickey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 11:05 evandi wrote:
On July 04 2009 11:02 cz wrote:
On July 04 2009 10:24 evandi wrote:
Palin is not stupid. However there is a massive amount of ignorance out there.

I already pointed out so long ago in the 2008 political thread why most of the crap said about her was baseless.

People have insinuated the most vile crap from the very beginning before they knew anything about her other than that she was from Alaska, and the media ignored almost every time Biden or even Obama made a mistake.

Obama cannot complete a sentence without a god damned teleprompter in front of him. Don't tell me that Palin is stupid.


As Letterman said to O'Reiley, "I pause because I think before I say something." However much you dislike Obama, he's a very intellectually smart person. Speaking in a somewhat stuttered way doesn't change that.

And yes, Palin is a moron. Have you ever watched her in any interview? She has political smarts, though.


I've seen her in many interview and most were not bad. I only remember one bad one: the Couric interview.

However much I dislike Obama, I disagree that he is an intellectually smart person. He is just good at presentation in my opinion.


Of course because getting a bachelors degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho outshines a bachelors in political science with foreign relations from Colombia university.

And I mean you're so right. He's not a very smart person. What smart person could graduate with academic distinction from Harvard law school and become editor of the Harvard law review? I mean anyone could do that including you right?

I completely agree with you he's not a very intellectually smart person.


He's obviously a troll - he wants this kind of attention.

Ignore him please.
Jimtudor
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada259 Posts
July 04 2009 02:17 GMT
#65
I don't think she will matter, she won't make it pass the republican primary.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
July 04 2009 02:18 GMT
#66
On July 04 2009 11:15 Mickey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 11:05 evandi wrote:
On July 04 2009 11:02 cz wrote:
On July 04 2009 10:24 evandi wrote:
Palin is not stupid. However there is a massive amount of ignorance out there.

I already pointed out so long ago in the 2008 political thread why most of the crap said about her was baseless.

People have insinuated the most vile crap from the very beginning before they knew anything about her other than that she was from Alaska, and the media ignored almost every time Biden or even Obama made a mistake.

Obama cannot complete a sentence without a god damned teleprompter in front of him. Don't tell me that Palin is stupid.


As Letterman said to O'Reiley, "I pause because I think before I say something." However much you dislike Obama, he's a very intellectually smart person. Speaking in a somewhat stuttered way doesn't change that.

And yes, Palin is a moron. Have you ever watched her in any interview? She has political smarts, though.


I've seen her in many interview and most were not bad. I only remember one bad one: the Couric interview.

However much I dislike Obama, I disagree that he is an intellectually smart person. He is just good at presentation in my opinion.


Of course because getting a bachelors degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho outshines a bachelors in political science with foreign relations from Colombia university.

And I mean you're so right. He's not a very smart person. What smart person could graduate with academic distinction from Harvard law school and become editor of the Harvard law review? I mean anyone could do that including you right?

I completely agree with you he's not a very intellectually smart person.


I don't think he is dumb, I just don't think he is particularly bright. And I think that it is people who have connections that go to those schools, not necessarily people who are bright.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
July 04 2009 02:20 GMT
#67
On July 04 2009 11:16 Musoeun wrote:
I wouldn't call Palin stupid. She's said a ton of dumb things - as have former VP Quayle, former President GW Bush, current VP Biden, etc. etc. Palin's mistakes got blown way out of proportion primarily because her political strategy which worked fine in Alaska - "One of you guys and proud of it," doesn't fly on the big stage that includes the big cities.

I for one don't see how, "I can see Russia from my house," (a clear exaggeration, people, obviously not meant literally) is any worse a political snafu than, "...clinging desperately to their guns and religion," in a country where the majority of the population at least claims some sort of faith.

(Of course, if Palin did mean that literally, she's dumber than I thought.)

My big problem with Palin is that she came off as insincere. I disagree with some of Obama's policies and actions in office, but this would be true of any President. He always seems like he means well, he genuinely wants to help. Palin's record just indicates that she likes power and she likes spending money. She may talk the talk about god and moose-hunting, but when it comes to actual policy, there's no good reason to pick her.

Given the potentially shady stuff that came up even during her VP campaign, I suspect something else has shown up and this is just Palin getting out of town before, as they say, the fecal waste matter hits the rotary air impeller.


Well, given that she didn't say that she could see Russia from her house (that was her SNL imitator), I hope you realize just how unfair she has been treated that you actually got the impression that she did say that.

She actually said, you can see parts of Russia from an Island of Alaska, or something very similar to that.
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
July 04 2009 02:21 GMT
#68
On July 04 2009 11:18 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 11:15 Mickey wrote:
On July 04 2009 11:05 evandi wrote:
On July 04 2009 11:02 cz wrote:
On July 04 2009 10:24 evandi wrote:
Palin is not stupid. However there is a massive amount of ignorance out there.

I already pointed out so long ago in the 2008 political thread why most of the crap said about her was baseless.

People have insinuated the most vile crap from the very beginning before they knew anything about her other than that she was from Alaska, and the media ignored almost every time Biden or even Obama made a mistake.

Obama cannot complete a sentence without a god damned teleprompter in front of him. Don't tell me that Palin is stupid.


As Letterman said to O'Reiley, "I pause because I think before I say something." However much you dislike Obama, he's a very intellectually smart person. Speaking in a somewhat stuttered way doesn't change that.

And yes, Palin is a moron. Have you ever watched her in any interview? She has political smarts, though.


I've seen her in many interview and most were not bad. I only remember one bad one: the Couric interview.

However much I dislike Obama, I disagree that he is an intellectually smart person. He is just good at presentation in my opinion.


Of course because getting a bachelors degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho outshines a bachelors in political science with foreign relations from Colombia university.

And I mean you're so right. He's not a very smart person. What smart person could graduate with academic distinction from Harvard law school and become editor of the Harvard law review? I mean anyone could do that including you right?

I completely agree with you he's not a very intellectually smart person.


I don't think he is dumb, I just don't think he is particularly bright. And I think that it is people who have connections that go to those schools, not necessarily people who are bright.

I can't even or shouldn't respond. Barrack Obama took out massive loans to pay for college/Law School, and he had almost no connections at Harvard Law School.

You are pathetic in every sense of the word. I'm not responding anymore you troll.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
July 04 2009 02:22 GMT
#69
On July 04 2009 11:16 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 11:15 Mickey wrote:
On July 04 2009 11:05 evandi wrote:
On July 04 2009 11:02 cz wrote:
On July 04 2009 10:24 evandi wrote:
Palin is not stupid. However there is a massive amount of ignorance out there.

I already pointed out so long ago in the 2008 political thread why most of the crap said about her was baseless.

People have insinuated the most vile crap from the very beginning before they knew anything about her other than that she was from Alaska, and the media ignored almost every time Biden or even Obama made a mistake.

Obama cannot complete a sentence without a god damned teleprompter in front of him. Don't tell me that Palin is stupid.


As Letterman said to O'Reiley, "I pause because I think before I say something." However much you dislike Obama, he's a very intellectually smart person. Speaking in a somewhat stuttered way doesn't change that.

And yes, Palin is a moron. Have you ever watched her in any interview? She has political smarts, though.


I've seen her in many interview and most were not bad. I only remember one bad one: the Couric interview.

However much I dislike Obama, I disagree that he is an intellectually smart person. He is just good at presentation in my opinion.


Of course because getting a bachelors degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho outshines a bachelors in political science with foreign relations from Colombia university.

And I mean you're so right. He's not a very smart person. What smart person could graduate with academic distinction from Harvard law school and become editor of the Harvard law review? I mean anyone could do that including you right?

I completely agree with you he's not a very intellectually smart person.


He's obviously a troll - he wants this kind of attention.

Ignore him please.


This is very wrong and cowardly of you to try to paint me as a troll just because you cannot handle a discussion about this subject with someone who actually disagrees with you a lot.

And now, because I am again almost alone in the opposition, I will be labeled again a troll for responding to too many posts even though how else can few argue against many?
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
July 04 2009 02:23 GMT
#70
On July 04 2009 11:20 evandi wrote:
Well, given that she didn't say that she could see Russia from her house (that was her SNL imitator), I hope you realize just how unfair she has been treated that you actually got the impression that she did say that.

She actually said, you can see parts of Russia from an Island of Alaska, or something very similar to that.


I've seen this debate go back and forth so many times that I lost track ...I honestly thought she had said something very similar at one point. But my point still stands - it's not as dumb a thing to say (if she did say it) as something Obama said.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-04 02:28:08
July 04 2009 02:27 GMT
#71
On July 04 2009 11:23 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 11:20 evandi wrote:
Well, given that she didn't say that she could see Russia from her house (that was her SNL imitator), I hope you realize just how unfair she has been treated that you actually got the impression that she did say that.

She actually said, you can see parts of Russia from an Island of Alaska, or something very similar to that.


I've seen this debate go back and forth so many times that I lost track ...I honestly thought she had said something very similar at one point. But my point still stands - it's not as dumb a thing to say (if she did say it) as something Obama said.


I don't think you understand. People aren't saying Palin is dumb because of one or two soundbites, but more of an evaluation of all the things they have seen her in, including interviews and debates.

I've met a lot of people in my life, and occasionally I come across someone who, after 5 minutes or so of talking to them at a party, I realize they are quite intellectually dumb. That's exactly how Palin comes off. It's not so much that she says dumb things as much as she never says anything intelligent or thought out. It's more just goody-goody one-liners that come out of her mouth rather than a concrete, thought out idea that wasn't given to her by her advisers.

Her biography doesn't help her at all either.

On the other hand I do think she has excellent political instincts/smarts and knows how to get herself elected.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-04 02:29:41
July 04 2009 02:28 GMT
#72
On July 04 2009 11:21 Mickey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 11:18 evandi wrote:
On July 04 2009 11:15 Mickey wrote:
On July 04 2009 11:05 evandi wrote:
On July 04 2009 11:02 cz wrote:
On July 04 2009 10:24 evandi wrote:
Palin is not stupid. However there is a massive amount of ignorance out there.

I already pointed out so long ago in the 2008 political thread why most of the crap said about her was baseless.

People have insinuated the most vile crap from the very beginning before they knew anything about her other than that she was from Alaska, and the media ignored almost every time Biden or even Obama made a mistake.

Obama cannot complete a sentence without a god damned teleprompter in front of him. Don't tell me that Palin is stupid.


As Letterman said to O'Reiley, "I pause because I think before I say something." However much you dislike Obama, he's a very intellectually smart person. Speaking in a somewhat stuttered way doesn't change that.

And yes, Palin is a moron. Have you ever watched her in any interview? She has political smarts, though.


I've seen her in many interview and most were not bad. I only remember one bad one: the Couric interview.

However much I dislike Obama, I disagree that he is an intellectually smart person. He is just good at presentation in my opinion.


Of course because getting a bachelors degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho outshines a bachelors in political science with foreign relations from Colombia university.

And I mean you're so right. He's not a very smart person. What smart person could graduate with academic distinction from Harvard law school and become editor of the Harvard law review? I mean anyone could do that including you right?

I completely agree with you he's not a very intellectually smart person.


I don't think he is dumb, I just don't think he is particularly bright. And I think that it is people who have connections that go to those schools, not necessarily people who are bright.

I can't even or shouldn't respond. Barrack Obama took out massive loans to pay for college/Law School, and he had almost no connections at Harvard Law School.

You are pathetic in every sense of the word. I'm not responding anymore you troll.


Why are you saying that he had "almost" no connections at Harvard Law School?

I'm sure his father, who attended Harvard, helped get him in.

But anyway, it must be easy if every thing you are ignorant about is an excuse to label someone else a troll.
Mokinono
Profile Joined December 2008
United States19 Posts
July 04 2009 02:29 GMT
#73
All politicians are terrible. Palin and Obama are about the same. Both are crooks. Both are out to do a terrible job as president. Both are lying politicians. I just think that Palin will lie a little less than Obama.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
July 04 2009 02:29 GMT
#74
Everyone please ignore evandi, he is trolling and hoping to get an inflammatory response.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
July 04 2009 02:30 GMT
#75
On July 04 2009 11:29 Mokinono wrote:
All politicians are terrible. Palin and Obama are about the same. Both are crooks. Both are out to do a terrible job as president. Both are lying politicians. I just think that Palin will lie a little less than Obama.


Why do I get the feeling you are the type of person who can't name three past presidents before Clinton?
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-04 02:31:48
July 04 2009 02:31 GMT
#76
On July 04 2009 11:29 cz wrote:
Everyone please ignore evandi, he is trolling and hoping to get an inflammatory response.


Oh god, cz. If you don't think a lot of people share my views on this issue you are living in a bubble.

I happen to be a troll in your mind even though there are millions of people who would take my place in this argument, and they are not trolls.

So, really the only reason you are calling me a troll is that you know that I can and will make you look like a fool.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 04 2009 02:32 GMT
#77
On July 04 2009 11:23 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 11:20 evandi wrote:
Well, given that she didn't say that she could see Russia from her house (that was her SNL imitator), I hope you realize just how unfair she has been treated that you actually got the impression that she did say that.

She actually said, you can see parts of Russia from an Island of Alaska, or something very similar to that.


I've seen this debate go back and forth so many times that I lost track ...I honestly thought she had said something very similar at one point. But my point still stands - it's not as dumb a thing to say (if she did say it) as something Obama said.


It's not as potentially politically harmful, but her saying that soldiers in Iraq were sent out "on a task that is from God" is pretty damn stupid.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Toxiferous
Profile Joined June 2009
United States388 Posts
July 04 2009 02:40 GMT
#78
which part of kentucky :D
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
July 04 2009 02:41 GMT
#79
YES EVANDI OBAMA SR. HELPED HIS SON GET INTO HARVARD LAW SCHOOL FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE!

Obama's father died in 1982. Obama entered Harvard Law School around late 1988. I'm sure the fact that Obama's father attended graduate school at Harvard helped , but if you think that SOLELY got him in. You must be a huge moron.

Evandi isn't making anyone else look like a fool besides himself. Evandi doesn't explain anything with facts, just blind opinion and twisted logic.




Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
July 04 2009 02:42 GMT
#80
On July 04 2009 11:20 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2009 11:16 Musoeun wrote:
I wouldn't call Palin stupid. She's said a ton of dumb things - as have former VP Quayle, former President GW Bush, current VP Biden, etc. etc. Palin's mistakes got blown way out of proportion primarily because her political strategy which worked fine in Alaska - "One of you guys and proud of it," doesn't fly on the big stage that includes the big cities.

I for one don't see how, "I can see Russia from my house," (a clear exaggeration, people, obviously not meant literally) is any worse a political snafu than, "...clinging desperately to their guns and religion," in a country where the majority of the population at least claims some sort of faith.

(Of course, if Palin did mean that literally, she's dumber than I thought.)

My big problem with Palin is that she came off as insincere. I disagree with some of Obama's policies and actions in office, but this would be true of any President. He always seems like he means well, he genuinely wants to help. Palin's record just indicates that she likes power and she likes spending money. She may talk the talk about god and moose-hunting, but when it comes to actual policy, there's no good reason to pick her.

Given the potentially shady stuff that came up even during her VP campaign, I suspect something else has shown up and this is just Palin getting out of town before, as they say, the fecal waste matter hits the rotary air impeller.


Well, given that she didn't say that she could see Russia from her house (that was her SNL imitator), I hope you realize just how unfair she has been treated that you actually got the impression that she did say that.

She actually said, you can see parts of Russia from an Island of Alaska, or something very similar to that.


She went further than that and what she actually said is more terrifying than what was said on SNL. She claimed that her state's proximity to Russia meant that she had legitimate foreign policy experience.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
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