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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27178 Posts
June 25 2009 05:51 GMT
#141
You see, this piece of metal is launched at several hundred miles per hour, and it smashes through skin, tissue, and bone without pause.

Many bullets are designed to break apart on impact, shattering and creating several trails of destruction in the target.

That causes the pain. Fortunately the pain is rather short. Unless, of course, the person has poor aim.
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PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
June 25 2009 06:24 GMT
#142
On June 25 2009 14:51 Manifesto7 wrote:
You see, this piece of metal is launched at several hundred miles per hour, and it smashes through skin, tissue, and bone without pause.

Many bullets are designed to break apart on impact, shattering and creating several trails of destruction in the target.

That causes the pain. Fortunately the pain is rather short. Unless, of course, the person has poor aim.


Yup very true, nervous transmisions of pain travel way faster than the speed of a bullet so you feel pain even if its only for .1 secs
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 07:15:32
June 25 2009 07:14 GMT
#143
If there is demand, there will be supply..no matter how many you kill.
There will always be people willing to sell drugs, a way to escape extreme misery :O
the more rare a drug gets, the price only gets up..and it will attract extremely poor people, because one will always risk their lives for bringing food to the table if needed..would you let your children die if there was 30-40% unemployment where you lived?
Maybe this isnt the story of these persons, but maybe the story of the next drug-dealer (tho yes i know most drug dealers that deal heavier stuff than weed and badass punks most likely with few braincells left and aggressive temper)

But read my first sentence again and think about it ... cause nobodys fault really :O but i would never approve of death penalty, maybe us europeans are too nice or naiv, donno
Bergkamp ftw!
s_side
Profile Joined May 2009
United States700 Posts
June 25 2009 07:25 GMT
#144
On June 25 2009 04:43 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 02:01 Integra wrote:
It's China, they kill people there for all kinds of reasons.

LOL. thats like saying muslims get their hands chopped off for stealing.


Yes, yes they do. Stoned to death as well. They have charming jurisprudence.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 25 2009 13:31 GMT
#145
On June 25 2009 12:21 Lemonwalrus wrote:
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On June 25 2009 09:33 MayorITC wrote:
On June 25 2009 08:18 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On June 25 2009 06:57 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Also imprisonment is a lot more expensive than capital punishment.

False.



False on your false.

Death penalty is more expensive in the United States because of the legislative process rather than the actual enforcement of the punishment. China doesn't follow the same rules.

Oh yeah, forgot we were talking about Chinese death penalty.

Sorry for posting a crappy 1 word response to your post FW.

You will never be forgiven.

I, true to my name, am instating a deep rooted ever lasting family feud.

My grandchilden will hate the name "Lemon Walrus" as much as I.





Have a nice day.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 25 2009 13:32 GMT
#146
Ok I forgive you now.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
June 25 2009 15:15 GMT
#147
Come on man, they KNEW it was china! Could have had some fun feeding sausages to poor north koreans at the border or just found a company with inhuman work conditions, killing a cpl houndred employees per year! But NO, they decided to smoke a jay, so its their own fuckin fault to get killed over that!

Seriously, some of the arguing going on in this thread is kinda simplistic. Fact is, the legal system of many asian countries (incl. China) is totally out of balance. Like others said, anything drug related will get you fucked heavily while other actions/policies that are about on the same level of disdain of human dignity are not even punished at all....
It just seems a very young and unsophisticated legal system, but surprisingly it seems a lot of people here at TL believe in the same (outdated) concepts it is based on. Newsflash: An extremely harsh penalty like death penalty does not help lowering the rates on that specific crime or deterring anybody from commiting that crime at all. In fact, it rather leads to an increase in crime because of the higher motivation for the criminals to do cover-up crimes and shit like that. If you already gave up your right to live, you have nothing left to lose.
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Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
June 25 2009 16:01 GMT
#148
I'll pray for God to drug dealers in Brazil be sentenced to death.

Amen.
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
June 25 2009 16:15 GMT
#149
Well i would like to say that i don't like drug dealers as much as everybody else, but being sentenced to death is too much. Let's see it this way: it is totally someones responsibility if he is doing drugs or not, not the dealers. If you want to do drugs, you will always be able to get some no matter what. Drug dealers are only 'smart people' who takes an advantage of someones stupidity and make money of it. There won't be any drug dealers if people weren't dumb enough to do drugs. Again it is totally your choice to do drugs, not the dealer's Why should he be punished for junkie's stupidity....
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animus123
Profile Joined January 2009
United States171 Posts
June 25 2009 16:30 GMT
#150
On June 25 2009 16:14 TreK wrote:
If there is demand, there will be supply..no matter how many you kill.
There will always be people willing to sell drugs, a way to escape extreme misery :O
the more rare a drug gets, the price only gets up..and it will attract extremely poor people, because one will always risk their lives for bringing food to the table if needed..would you let your children die if there was 30-40% unemployment where you lived?
Maybe this isnt the story of these persons, but maybe the story of the next drug-dealer (tho yes i know most drug dealers that deal heavier stuff than weed and badass punks most likely with few braincells left and aggressive temper)

But read my first sentence again and think about it ... cause nobodys fault really :O but i would never approve of death penalty, maybe us europeans are too nice or naiv, donno


There's nothing we can do, so we should just let drug dealers walk the streets. We should just let them sell drugs to kids, walk into schools uncontested, do whatever they want. Trying to stop them isn't going to change anything.

Oh wait that's retarded. There may always be people willing to screw themselves by taking, selling, and trafficking drugs but we don't have to help them do it. We can at least make it hard, make them think twice before they do it, maybe make them sweat a bit.
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
June 25 2009 16:48 GMT
#151
There's nothing we can do, so we should just let drug dealers walk the streets. We should just let them sell drugs to kids, walk into schools uncontested, do whatever they want. Trying to stop them isn't going to change anything.

Oh wait that's retarded. There may always be people willing to screw themselves by taking, selling, and trafficking drugs but we don't have to help them do it. We can at least make it hard, make them think twice before they do it, maybe make them sweat a bit.


Ohh yeaaa so let's kill drug dealers when they get caught, because they deserve it..sorry but that is retarded. In prison, they won't be harming people.
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 25 2009 16:49 GMT
#152
On June 26 2009 01:15 Ricjames wrote:
Well i would like to say that i don't like drug dealers as much as everybody else, but being sentenced to death is too much.


That's because you're accustomed to the legal systems of the western countries. If you grew up in China, you probably wouldn't care too much. Also, China might require more death penalties to act as deterrents so they can make sure that the other 1.3 billion people aren't out killing each other.

Let's see it this way: it is totally someones responsibility if he is doing drugs or not, not the dealers.


That's not true. It's not necessarily someone's fault for being ignorant of the effects of drugs. It is someone's fault for preying upon said ignorance. It's like scamming basically.

If you want to do drugs, you will always be able to get some no matter what.


True.

Drug dealers are only 'smart people' who takes an advantage of someones stupidity and make money of it.


That doesn't justify it... Preying upon someone's stupidity does not mean it is right. Isn't fraud a crime? Because last I checked, it is.

There won't be any drug dealers if people weren't dumb enough to do drugs
Again it is totally your choice to do drugs, not the dealer's Why should he be punished for junkie's stupidity....


Because we charge people with fraud last I checked. Or is it okay to have someone tell you they're selling tylenol, but it's really some unknown chemicals mixed together meant to get you addicted? Furthermore, this isn't simply fraud because drug trafficking affects the lives of many people ranging from the addicted junkies to their friends, parents, relatives, etc.

Now, taking your freedom of choice ideal, why shouldn't the traffickers get a death sentence? They made the decision, with the knowledge that they could be sentenced to death. Isn't it entirely their responsibility for making the decision and getting caught?
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dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
June 25 2009 17:12 GMT
#153
Why should anyone get a death sentence?

Anyone demanding death sentence is just a murderer too.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 25 2009 17:38 GMT
#154
On June 26 2009 02:12 dnosrc wrote:
Why should anyone get a death sentence?


Because continuing to be a drain and a danger to society doesn't exactly help.
Look at rapists or child molesters, will they ever change? No, I would say not. Will they help our society? No... Will they cause harm and danger to others? Yes, in fact, a lot of harm, especially psychologically. So, what's the point of their life? Why should we keep these people, who can't be helped, around just so they can endanger our society?

Anyone demanding a death sentence is just a murderer too.


Hence why it is not any one person deciding if a death sentence should be handed out or not, it is either a panel of people or a society. =p And, as always, it depends on what you define as "murder."
darkness overpowering
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
June 25 2009 20:14 GMT
#155
On June 25 2009 15:24 PaeZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 14:51 Manifesto7 wrote:
You see, this piece of metal is launched at several hundred miles per hour, and it smashes through skin, tissue, and bone without pause.

Many bullets are designed to break apart on impact, shattering and creating several trails of destruction in the target.

That causes the pain. Fortunately the pain is rather short. Unless, of course, the person has poor aim.


Yup very true, nervous transmisions of pain travel way faster than the speed of a bullet so you feel pain even if its only for .1 secs


But then again, you are dead right after so it doesn't really matter that much. It's much worse if you get shot in the arm and have to keep feeling that pain continually. If you get shot in the head, chances are that you won't stay alive long enough to cry out.

I don't like their use of the death penalty but as people brought up, there are too many people in China already anyway and if they are serious about stopping the drug trade, executing someone is enough to deter many other people away from dealing drugs. It's always a trade-off between how much money you can make from drugs and what the consequences are. I feel like governments should just allow the drug trade as a controlled substance like tobacco or alcohol and tax it extravagantly. That way, they can bring in more revenue while gaining control over the violent drug cartels and take away all their power.
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BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-25 21:52:49
June 25 2009 21:50 GMT
#156
The population is just too high for them to jail people like these drug dealers, maybe china should deport them instead. Does anyone know what the punishment would be for trafficking in Nigeria? I know in Australia you can get up to 30 years in prison for trafficking which is still pretty fukin bad IMO.
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
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