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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
HOWEVER Fluoride helps protect your teeth against cavities, by making them more resistant to acid. It actually changes the chemical composition of your tooth enamel slightly. Since they've started adding it to drinking water, the rate of cavities in children has gone down tremendously. Like most other things in life, there's a balance. The amount of fluoride they put in the public water isn't going to hurt anyone. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
have a look... on fluoride, once again, have a research on ur facts then refutes me with solid arguments back by evidence... | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On May 09 2009 10:55 Shizuru~ wrote: yeah well, kinda saw the reaction to my post coming, but then again, do urself a favor and educate urself, i'm not saying don't get shots at all, don't drink water at all, just saying be aware of what goes into your body. it only take less than 5 minute to google stuff like thimerosal, fluoride, flu shots.. again... educate urself, research on facts before u refutes others blindly... really there are alot of things people would call me a nut job for if i posted them, its better for people to find it out for themselfs... like the video in the op... My point was that the things aren't in the least comparable. We are aware of the fluoride in our water. You keep telling people to educate themselves but instead of providing a single credible source you're telling people to google stuff which seriously makes me doubt your knowledge on the matter instead of mine. Stop pretending to know what others know and presenting yourself as some expert on the matter and then telling people to educate themselves by googling a bunch of stuff, you're not exactly convincing me here. | ||
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
However if you look at the large body of research that's been conducted on both sides of the debate, it's pretty clear that on the anti-vaccine side we have a whole bunch of anecdotal emotionally charged evidence, and on the pro-vaccine side we have millions of happy, healthy children. | ||
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
On May 09 2009 10:55 Shizuru~ wrote: yeah well, kinda saw the reaction to my post coming, but then again, do urself a favor and educate urself, i'm not saying don't get shots at all, don't drink water at all, just saying be aware of what goes into your body. it only take less than 5 minute to google stuff like thimerosal, fluoride, flu shots.. again... educate urself, research on facts before u refutes others blindly... really there are alot of things people would call me a nut job for if i posted them, its better for people to find it out for themselfs... like the video in the op... Because established science saying that the benefits of the MMR vaccine out way the risks, are quite clearly wrong, and we should listen to this guy who (usually) has limited qualifications and anecdotal evidence. My point is, the idea of scientists is someone who is solely employed to research and test these sorts of things, warning lights start flashing wildly in my head when someone urges me to look at what fluoride is; Fluoride is the reduced form of fluorine. Both organic and inorganic compounds containing the element fluorine are considered fluorides, amazing. Your call for me to educate myself seems to be a call for me to find claims that support your view. Its not my position to "inform" myself from people who are equally uninformed, that's why the system of peer reviewed medical journals exists, so that the people who are actually on the business end of my health know what they are doing. Yes it may sound scary, a group of people not you looking after your health, but in the same way you employ a mechanic to fix your car, in this society it is a necessity. | ||
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
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Frits
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
You keep telling people to educate themselves but instead of providing a single credible source you're telling people to google stuff which seriously makes me doubt your knowledge on the matter instead of mine. Stop pretending to know what others know and presenting yourself as some expert on the matter and then telling people to educate themselves by googling a bunch of stuff, you're not exactly convincing me here." -Frits from your tone, your just letting your ego get the best of u, even if i provide u with a credibe sources u'd just refute me cause u think ur right... think of me what ever u want, i'm just doing u a favor thats all, i'm looking back to my internet history to find all the credible sources i looked in the last few months. google is a good way to get ur research on a subject to get started btw, not everything on the internet is fake... | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On May 09 2009 11:14 Frits wrote: You disagree with me? Here are some more youtube video's, I have no idea how to debate so I'm just gonna link a bunch of youtubes, cya. The Internet :D | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
can someone summarize that i don't want to go through all of that sappy junk to get to what actually happened. | ||
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NeverTheEndlessWiz
Singapore827 Posts
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On May 09 2009 11:06 Biochemist wrote: In regards to thimerosol, it's probably not the best stuff we could be using. However if you look at the large body of research that's been conducted on both sides of the debate, it's pretty clear that on the anti-vaccine side we have a whole bunch of anecdotal emotionally charged evidence, and on the pro-vaccine side we have millions of happy, healthy children. hey this sounds like the debate between socialism and capitalism | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
its better to present an argument with nothing right? if u have any informative insights please go ahead and say, i'm all ears and open to what people have to say | ||
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Chuiu
3470 Posts
On May 09 2009 11:20 Shizuru~ wrote: its better to present an argument with nothing right? if u have any informative insights please go ahead and say, i'm all ears and open to what people have to say If you're going to argue something present actual information from reputable sources. Not some guy who claims to have spoken to some scientists somewhere and is telling us what he was told. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On May 09 2009 11:18 Kerotan wrote: Youtube isn't a peer reviewed journal. Kthxbye. o....k.... do u have any suggestion on where to look up on these peer assesed journal u mention? i'll have to say though i'm not quite sure what that meant though, would u mind explaining to me what it is and where i can have a look at it? | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On May 09 2009 11:16 Shizuru~ wrote: "My point was that the things aren't in the least comparable. We are aware of the fluoride in our water. You keep telling people to educate themselves but instead of providing a single credible source you're telling people to google stuff which seriously makes me doubt your knowledge on the matter instead of mine. Stop pretending to know what others know and presenting yourself as some expert on the matter and then telling people to educate themselves by googling a bunch of stuff, you're not exactly convincing me here." -Frits from your tone, your just letting your ego get the best of u, even if i provide u with a credibe sources u'd just refute me cause u think ur right... think of me what ever u want, i'm just doing u a favor thats all, i'm looking back to my internet history to find all the credible sources i looked in the last few months. google is a good way to get ur research on a subject to get started btw, not everything on the internet is fake... This is the second time you're dodging the argument and attack me personally. First it's my lack of knowledge now it's my ego preventing me from accepting reasonable argument. You and physician are just being a bunch of douchebags so far. "Hey I'm not going to argue this subject with you because you're just gonna be unreasonable." The irony of that is incredible. | ||
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