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Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
May 09 2009 02:04 GMT
#41
Shizuru, let me tell you about fluoride. It's poisonous in large quantities. If you ingest a bunch of it over a long period of time, you get fluorosis.

HOWEVER

Fluoride helps protect your teeth against cavities, by making them more resistant to acid. It actually changes the chemical composition of your tooth enamel slightly. Since they've started adding it to drinking water, the rate of cavities in children has gone down tremendously. Like most other things in life, there's a balance. The amount of fluoride they put in the public water isn't going to hurt anyone.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-09 02:09:25
May 09 2009 02:04 GMT
#42
"The benefits of thimerosol were a breakthrough when they were put to use while the hazards were relatively unknown. Obviously our childhood shots contained thimerosol since they only stopped putting them in vaccines around the late 90's. This is not controversial or some government plot." -Fritz



have a look...



on fluoride, once again, have a research on ur facts then refutes me with solid arguments back by evidence...
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 09 2009 02:05 GMT
#43
On May 09 2009 10:55 Shizuru~ wrote:
yeah well, kinda saw the reaction to my post coming, but then again, do urself a favor and educate urself, i'm not saying don't get shots at all, don't drink water at all, just saying be aware of what goes into your body. it only take less than 5 minute to google stuff like thimerosal, fluoride, flu shots..

again... educate urself, research on facts before u refutes others blindly... really there are alot of things people would call me a nut job for if i posted them, its better for people to find it out for themselfs... like the video in the op...


My point was that the things aren't in the least comparable. We are aware of the fluoride in our water.

You keep telling people to educate themselves but instead of providing a single credible source you're telling people to google stuff which seriously makes me doubt your knowledge on the matter instead of mine. Stop pretending to know what others know and presenting yourself as some expert on the matter and then telling people to educate themselves by googling a bunch of stuff, you're not exactly convincing me here.
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
May 09 2009 02:06 GMT
#44
In regards to thimerosol, it's probably not the best stuff we could be using.

However if you look at the large body of research that's been conducted on both sides of the debate, it's pretty clear that on the anti-vaccine side we have a whole bunch of anecdotal emotionally charged evidence, and on the pro-vaccine side we have millions of happy, healthy children.
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
May 09 2009 02:09 GMT
#45
On May 09 2009 10:55 Shizuru~ wrote:
yeah well, kinda saw the reaction to my post coming, but then again, do urself a favor and educate urself, i'm not saying don't get shots at all, don't drink water at all, just saying be aware of what goes into your body. it only take less than 5 minute to google stuff like thimerosal, fluoride, flu shots..

again... educate urself, research on facts before u refutes others blindly... really there are alot of things people would call me a nut job for if i posted them, its better for people to find it out for themselfs... like the video in the op...


Because established science saying that the benefits of the MMR vaccine out way the risks, are quite clearly wrong, and we should listen to this guy who (usually) has limited qualifications and anecdotal evidence.

My point is, the idea of scientists is someone who is solely employed to research and test these sorts of things, warning lights start flashing wildly in my head when someone urges me to look at what fluoride is; Fluoride is the reduced form of fluorine. Both organic and inorganic compounds containing the element fluorine are considered fluorides, amazing.

Your call for me to educate myself seems to be a call for me to find claims that support your view.

Its not my position to "inform" myself from people who are equally uninformed, that's why the system of peer reviewed medical journals exists, so that the people who are actually on the business end of my health know what they are doing.

Yes it may sound scary, a group of people not you looking after your health, but in the same way you employ a mechanic to fix your car, in this society it is a necessity.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
May 09 2009 02:10 GMT
#46
I've read the research papers detailing the arguments on both sides, and you appear to get your facts from youtube videos. I'm not going to waste my time here if that's all you can come up with.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 09 2009 02:12 GMT
#47
This is my point: *100 minute long video*
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 09 2009 02:14 GMT
#48
You disagree with me? Here are some more youtube video's, I have no idea how to debate so I'm just gonna link a bunch of youtubes, cya.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 09 2009 02:16 GMT
#49
"My point was that the things aren't in the least comparable. We are aware of the fluoride in our water.

You keep telling people to educate themselves but instead of providing a single credible source you're telling people to google stuff which seriously makes me doubt your knowledge on the matter instead of mine. Stop pretending to know what others know and presenting yourself as some expert on the matter and then telling people to educate themselves by googling a bunch of stuff, you're not exactly convincing me here." -Frits

from your tone, your just letting your ego get the best of u, even if i provide u with a credibe sources u'd just refute me cause u think ur right... think of me what ever u want, i'm just doing u a favor thats all, i'm looking back to my internet history to find all the credible sources i looked in the last few months. google is a good way to get ur research on a subject to get started btw, not everything on the internet is fake...
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 09 2009 02:16 GMT
#50
On May 09 2009 11:14 Frits wrote:
You disagree with me? Here are some more youtube video's, I have no idea how to debate so I'm just gonna link a bunch of youtubes, cya.

The Internet :D
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
May 09 2009 02:17 GMT
#51
tl;dw

can someone summarize that i don't want to go through all of that sappy junk to get to what actually happened.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
NeverTheEndlessWiz
Profile Joined November 2003
Singapore827 Posts
May 09 2009 02:18 GMT
#52
A flu vaccine will NEVER cause such a reaction as far as I know. Personally I administered almost 3000 vaccines for the past 2 years.
Retired Brood War player / WCG SG Top 8 for 2002, 2003, 2004, retired, then made minor comeback to Top 8 at 2008. 2009 = bleh xD
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
May 09 2009 02:18 GMT
#53
Youtube isn't a peer reviewed journal. Kthxbye.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 09 2009 02:18 GMT
#54
well if u guys got some solid facts to back ur arguments, by all means please post them, i have to admit i don't know everything, if u have something new to add in the discussion please go ahead, i'm all ears to listen..
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 09 2009 02:20 GMT
#55
On May 09 2009 11:06 Biochemist wrote:
In regards to thimerosol, it's probably not the best stuff we could be using.

However if you look at the large body of research that's been conducted on both sides of the debate, it's pretty clear that on the anti-vaccine side we have a whole bunch of anecdotal emotionally charged evidence, and on the pro-vaccine side we have millions of happy, healthy children.

hey this sounds like the debate between socialism and capitalism
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
May 09 2009 02:20 GMT
#56
What I'm thinking is when they get captured, then the NSA will turn the nanobots into "Death Mode" and eat the soldier alive.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 09 2009 02:20 GMT
#57
On May 09 2009 11:16 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 11:14 Frits wrote:
You disagree with me? Here are some more youtube video's, I have no idea how to debate so I'm just gonna link a bunch of youtubes, cya.

The Internet :D


its better to present an argument with nothing right? if u have any informative insights please go ahead and say, i'm all ears and open to what people have to say
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-09 02:24:58
May 09 2009 02:22 GMT
#58
Everything this guy went through sounds like a severe allergic reaction to penicillin. Maybe there's less to this than everyone thinks, I certainly doubt the US is out to experiment on its own soldiers.

On May 09 2009 11:20 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 11:16 Chef wrote:
On May 09 2009 11:14 Frits wrote:
You disagree with me? Here are some more youtube video's, I have no idea how to debate so I'm just gonna link a bunch of youtubes, cya.

The Internet :D


its better to present an argument with nothing right? if u have any informative insights please go ahead and say, i'm all ears and open to what people have to say


If you're going to argue something present actual information from reputable sources. Not some guy who claims to have spoken to some scientists somewhere and is telling us what he was told.
♞
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 09 2009 02:23 GMT
#59
On May 09 2009 11:18 Kerotan wrote:
Youtube isn't a peer reviewed journal. Kthxbye.


o....k.... do u have any suggestion on where to look up on these peer assesed journal u mention? i'll have to say though i'm not quite sure what that meant though, would u mind explaining to me what it is and where i can have a look at it?
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 09 2009 02:24 GMT
#60
On May 09 2009 11:16 Shizuru~ wrote:
"My point was that the things aren't in the least comparable. We are aware of the fluoride in our water.

You keep telling people to educate themselves but instead of providing a single credible source you're telling people to google stuff which seriously makes me doubt your knowledge on the matter instead of mine. Stop pretending to know what others know and presenting yourself as some expert on the matter and then telling people to educate themselves by googling a bunch of stuff, you're not exactly convincing me here." -Frits

from your tone, your just letting your ego get the best of u, even if i provide u with a credibe sources u'd just refute me cause u think ur right... think of me what ever u want, i'm just doing u a favor thats all, i'm looking back to my internet history to find all the credible sources i looked in the last few months. google is a good way to get ur research on a subject to get started btw, not everything on the internet is fake...


This is the second time you're dodging the argument and attack me personally. First it's my lack of knowledge now it's my ego preventing me from accepting reasonable argument. You and physician are just being a bunch of douchebags so far. "Hey I'm not going to argue this subject with you because you're just gonna be unreasonable." The irony of that is incredible.
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