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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
December 22 2008 07:48 GMT
#81
On December 22 2008 14:26 HeadBangaa wrote:
NOW DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE DEATH PENALTY? HOLY SHIT, FUCK THE JUSTICE SYSTEM I'LL DO IT MYSELF


no i still don't
:O
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
December 22 2008 07:57 GMT
#82
On December 22 2008 16:47 kazokun wrote:
You just wanna kill someone yourself. The death penalty is only a way to legitimize murder.

I bet you'd find pleasure in killing them.

Yes all people who support the death penalty are secretly sick fucks who would go around murdering people if it weren't for the law.
But why?
kazokun
Profile Joined April 2008
United States163 Posts
December 22 2008 07:59 GMT
#83
On December 22 2008 16:57 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2008 16:47 kazokun wrote:
You just wanna kill someone yourself. The death penalty is only a way to legitimize murder.

I bet you'd find pleasure in killing them.

Yes all people who support the death penalty are secretly sick fucks who would go around murdering people if it weren't for the law.



Not exactly, but they do have a death fetish for people who "deserve it".
Who wants to be a dragon when you can be Anytime? - Fontong
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
December 22 2008 08:06 GMT
#84
God this shit is fucked up.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 22 2008 08:06 GMT
#85
Sick people.
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EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
December 22 2008 08:07 GMT
#86
I would respond, but this is really not the thread for a large death penalty debate so I won't.
But why?
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
December 22 2008 08:09 GMT
#87
good call, emerald
:O
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-22 08:13:07
December 22 2008 08:10 GMT
#88
this is fucking disgusting.

again, this is disgusting.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-22 08:36:17
December 22 2008 08:34 GMT
#89
Disturbing of course, but makes me curious to how they think and perceive their actions.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
December 22 2008 08:35 GMT
#90
On December 22 2008 16:47 kazokun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2008 14:26 HeadBangaa wrote:
NOW DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE DEATH PENALTY? HOLY SHIT, FUCK THE JUSTICE SYSTEM I'LL DO IT MYSELF


You just wanna kill someone yourself. The death penalty is only a way to legitimize murder.

I bet you'd find pleasure in killing them.

IM A VIGILANTE, THATS DIFFERENT
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
December 22 2008 08:37 GMT
#91
stuff like I can't comprehend 21?? they killed children too..
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
December 22 2008 08:45 GMT
#92
Those three are truly sick individuals. There is no rehabilitation for people that fucked up. I don't think the death penalty or the prison system is appropriate for these three, and I CERTAINLY do not believe eye-for-an-eye is right either (that's the most disgusting response to this I can think of).

So what should be done? I don't know the answer. Nothing will make this situation "better" or take away from the fact that something (many factors) made these three individuals do these repulsive killings. And nothing we can do will take back what they've already done to all their victims and how its affected their families and close ones.

To those saying eye for an eye, are you serious? How the fuck is that going to help? And who would be doing the eye for an eye? Certainly not yourself right. I'd hope not. Anyone who brings themselves to doing something this disgusting is really fucked up. What good would it possibly bring? You guys have some misguided notions on "teaching people a lesson" - the killers feel the need to do these atrocities and nothing deters them from it.

I have no solutions and don't believe there are any solutions that will make this better. I just wish these three were caught before they ever did any of this and I hope the victim's families and close ones will find a way to overcome what's happened.

About the video... I think it should be preserved for historical purposes, like videos of the holocaust are. I don't believe sharing it will encourage anyone to commit these acts. The majority of people who view this video regret it and cannot finish watching the video - and that's a good thing in a sense. We are not watching it with satisfaction. We are watching it with total disgust. And the rare few who enjoy this video must already be fucked up enough where they need some intervention NOW.

I can't write too coherently after reading and watching all this... this is just sick.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
December 22 2008 08:49 GMT
#93
The fact that these kids targeted the people in particular they felt wouldn't put up any resistance is absolutely despicable on top of the brutal manner they apparently conducted the murders (I don't plan on watching the video). 21 defenseless people gone because of these kids ...
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Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-22 08:52:05
December 22 2008 08:49 GMT
#94
No way am I gonna watch that.

EDIT: I don't see how anything short of the death penalty will qualify as "punishment fits the crime".
Also saves the government a lot of money they would have to pay for the nect 60 years to keep them comfortable and happy in jail.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
December 22 2008 08:52 GMT
#95
On December 22 2008 17:49 []p4NDemik[] wrote:
The fact that these kids targeted the people in particular they felt wouldn't put up any resistance is absolutely despicable on top of the brutal manner they apparently conducted the murders (I don't plan on watching the video). 21 defenseless people gone because of these kids ...


This is why there is concealed carry.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
December 22 2008 08:55 GMT
#96
On December 22 2008 17:49 Savio wrote:
No way am I gonna watch that.

EDIT: I don't see how anything short of the death penalty will qualify as "punishment fits the crime".
Also saves the government a lot of money they would have to pay for the nect 60 years to keep them comfortable and happy in jail.


the death penalty, with the appeals process, costs more than a life in max security prison. BUT whatever, im not ready to debate the punishment. the whole thing is too crazy.
:O
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44373 Posts
December 22 2008 09:01 GMT
#97
On December 22 2008 17:52 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2008 17:49 []p4NDemik[] wrote:
The fact that these kids targeted the people in particular they felt wouldn't put up any resistance is absolutely despicable on top of the brutal manner they apparently conducted the murders (I don't plan on watching the video). 21 defenseless people gone because of these kids ...


This is why there is concealed carry.

Oh no you didn't. If you edit your post I'll edit this and no-one need ever know.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 22 2008 09:08 GMT
#98
ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
thats all
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Deletrious
Profile Joined December 2007
United States458 Posts
December 22 2008 09:09 GMT
#99
On December 22 2008 17:49 Savio wrote:
No way am I gonna watch that.

EDIT: I don't see how anything short of the death penalty will qualify as "punishment fits the crime".
Also saves the government a lot of money they would have to pay for the nect 60 years to keep them comfortable and happy in jail.



Actually, the cost of the appeals process that Defendants are allowed when they receive the death penalty is more expensive then life in prison. At least in countries that protect people's rights like the US.

And personally, I can't consider life in jail as comfortable and happy, especially a Russian jail. I would consider life imprisonment a worse punishment then death.

Just trying to point out a couple practical rather than moral arguments against death penalty.

Now if given the opportunity and motivation, I might vigilante these guys, but I would give myself up to the law afterward.

Whether something is moral or not and whether it is legal are separate questions to ask.
Bow before the Dongjwa.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
December 22 2008 09:13 GMT
#100
On December 22 2008 13:15 Romance_us wrote:
Will they be killed as result of this in Russia? They plead guilty to all charges.

There's a moratorium on death sentences in Russia. They will probably get life sentences.

But if you're for some reason bloodthirsty (as "moral" people commonly are) then rest assured as russian prisons are a sentence worse than death for people who were sentenced for a "wrong" thing.

I watched the video before, it's quite disturbing, but the whole story pretty much reflects what is happening to the morality here in Russia - generally, there's a strong disconnection between the wealthiness of people and their educational level. Wealth in Russia means a lot of power (thanks to corruption) and people who get it are commonly uneducated enough to not know the basis of humanely behaviour. I won't be surprised if those guys evade their sentences or even already did (the people that go to jail may be entirely different from those who committed those crimes).
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