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On December 23 2008 14:27 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2008 14:19 HamerD wrote:On December 23 2008 13:39 Frits wrote:On December 23 2008 13:27 Dgtl wrote:
How can you not care if someone is ripped to shreds and then say you don't hate them?? Hamerd is not exactly a man of logical thought, he believes in astrology. At least you spelled my name correctly. From the looks of it you wouldn't know logic if it gave your first born cot death. The parts of astrology I believe in have never been disproven by any research. We can start a separate thread on it if you want. It's alright, I was just trolling. I know exactly how you feel, the parts of the flying spaghetti monster I believe in have never been disproven by any research either.
I don't wanna get to into your off topic personal feud, but every time you criticize HamerD for "believing in astronomy" you just sound like a prick. Just debate what the debate is about.
Someone on TL once said people should ignore my thoughts on economics because I was a different religion than him. Prick right? Right.
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On December 23 2008 14:41 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +This shows that our current system of death row is messed up. But if we just tried them, and if they were found guilty (which again implies no shadow of a doubt), then they should be executed the next day. guilty doesnt mean no shadow of a doubt, it means no reasonable doubt
Ya, I think you are right about that. I erred.
But the point is still true that our justice system is pretty dang strict when it comes to convictions. Rightfully so.
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On December 23 2008 14:46 Savio wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2008 14:27 Frits wrote:On December 23 2008 14:19 HamerD wrote:On December 23 2008 13:39 Frits wrote:On December 23 2008 13:27 Dgtl wrote:
How can you not care if someone is ripped to shreds and then say you don't hate them?? Hamerd is not exactly a man of logical thought, he believes in astrology. At least you spelled my name correctly. From the looks of it you wouldn't know logic if it gave your first born cot death. The parts of astrology I believe in have never been disproven by any research. We can start a separate thread on it if you want. It's alright, I was just trolling. I know exactly how you feel, the parts of the flying spaghetti monster I believe in have never been disproven by any research either. I don't wanna get to into your off topic personal feud, but every time you criticize HamerD for "believing in astronomy" you just sound like a prick. Just debate what the debate is about. Someone on TL once said people should ignore my thoughts on economics because I was a different religion than him. Prick right? Right.
You can't honestly compare astrology with religion.
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iNcontroL
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DID SOMEONE SAY RELIGION? HANG ON I'M GETTING IDRA
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Apparently they committed these murders over a year ago, so this is a long ass process:
As it was reported earlier, in June 2007 3 twenty-year-old local residents were detained in Dnepropetrovsk on suspicion of committing 21 murders on the territory of the Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhie Regions.
Looks like an inconsistency in the reports. Why would the 2'nd one say June of this year. Since it implies 2008, then why does the other one say 2007?
Three 19-year-old teenagers from rich families committed some grave crimes for entertaining themselves. Murderers were detained yesterday on suspicion of committing murders since June, 24
this year on the territory of Zaporozhie and Dnepropetrovsk oblasts. They confessed they committed 19 grave crimes, informed deputy Interior Minister of Ukraine Nickolay Kupianskiy.
Also, I was unable to find a story on this in any news site. There isn't too much info given on this site. Has anyone tried searching for it on news sites?
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
It's a possibility that this murder case is being kept at as low a profile as possible so that people don't know too much about it. This would make it a lot easier for the police to take these rich kids' bribes, and frame someone else while letting these psychopaths go.
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On December 23 2008 15:02 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2008 14:46 Savio wrote:On December 23 2008 14:27 Frits wrote:On December 23 2008 14:19 HamerD wrote:On December 23 2008 13:39 Frits wrote:On December 23 2008 13:27 Dgtl wrote:
How can you not care if someone is ripped to shreds and then say you don't hate them?? Hamerd is not exactly a man of logical thought, he believes in astrology. At least you spelled my name correctly. From the looks of it you wouldn't know logic if it gave your first born cot death. The parts of astrology I believe in have never been disproven by any research. We can start a separate thread on it if you want. It's alright, I was just trolling. I know exactly how you feel, the parts of the flying spaghetti monster I believe in have never been disproven by any research either. I don't wanna get to into your off topic personal feud, but every time you criticize HamerD for "believing in astronomy" you just sound like a prick. Just debate what the debate is about. Someone on TL once said people should ignore my thoughts on economics because I was a different religion than him. Prick right? Right. You can't honestly compare astrology with religion.
Idra would. (He's not the one I was referring to though)
/ends my participation in the Frits/HamerD feud.
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Lol YES do get Idra in here !!!!! XD
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I wouldn't want to take credit from his amazing religion discussion senses.. he IS here. He is probably just being shy cause we called em on it.
Greg I will pray for you.
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God will kill everyone who posted on this thread unless Idra posts.
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It's funny because after my brother brought this video up to me some weeks ago we were talking and he said to me, "You should post this in Team Liquid." After thinking about it momentarily I said to him, "No, I don't want other people morbid curiosity to lead them to the video."
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What the fuck is wrong with people? I want to say something else, but I can't really think of any words. That's so fucked up..
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they should seriously make these kids suffer till death.
Something horrific like... putting a metal ring around their genitals and forcing them to get erections, god that hurts like hell (dead serious by the way...) or if anyones ever seen the pounder hammer time that hurts like hell to. (PM if you want the link to hammer time on the pounder)
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United States43189 Posts
On December 23 2008 08:28 HamerD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2008 08:20 Cloud wrote:On December 23 2008 08:12 HamerD wrote:
Most people argue against the death penalty because they have in their head the idea of a poor, illiterate, itinerant farm worker who was framed for the murder of the governor's wife and has no legal council to defend himself; or at least in some capacity the concept of someone who doesn't deserve the penalty having it, irreversibly and inhumanely, placed on them.
This is just bullshit when considered in the case of these people. To my mind there is just no way to look at the case and say these people deserve any human rights whatsoever. You have to shield yourself from the brutality in order to compose yourself, and then try to put across these psuedo-humanist anti execution points. After watching the video they made, I just can't imagine them deserving human rights. And my point is, whether they killed the neighbours cows or 29 people, theres nothing to gain from killing them, what you think the zodiacal balance in the universe will collapse if bad people arent dead? Do you really think it helps someone that another guy who isnt going to do anything to society for the rest of his life dies? My point is that, after considering that they are not human, they have no human rights; that human society should dispose of them the way we do any aggressive disrupting influence, like a wild bear in the town centre or a plague of locusts; get rid of it in the cheapest way possible. I might settle for Physician's idea: if they were each left in a small cell, with one light, with nothing but some sort of menial task like making t-shirts paying for their 2 small meals a day (with the surplus going to families of the victims); they were afforded no time outside the cell, no contact with any other human, and if they became sick they were given no treatment.
You can't just declare people you don't like non human to justify what is little more than revenge. The point of human rights is that they are intrinsic to you. As long as you are genetically a human you have human rights. Whatever you do. Maybe you disagree with the concept of human rights. Maybe you think that torture for no purpose other than to make yourself feel vindicated is ok. Maybe you're an idiot. But that doesn't change what human rights means. You can disagree with the concept of universal rights intrinsic to humanity. What you can't do is accept the concept of human rights while denying them to people who are human.
I shouldn't need to explain stuff like this to you. It's not complicated. Humans can't be declared non human because they kill some people.
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just kill them and forget them. There are things that its not worth remembering and nothing else can be done.
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WTF
twisted.... really twisted
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Why is there no darn wikipedia article on this yet? 
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reminds me of theis game, manhunt was it?
and LOL at the spaghetti monster reference :d
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On December 23 2008 21:29 myIRE wrote:
reminds me of theis game, manhunt was it?
and LOL at the spaghetti monster reference :d
Stop bumping this thread with stupid jokes...makes me sick every time I see this thread.
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