EPTI assume he has the same effect in the US but havn't looked at the numbers. So won't comment on that.
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Yurie
11974 Posts
I assume he has the same effect in the US but havn't looked at the numbers. So won't comment on that. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
On February 26 2025 07:55 Zambrah wrote: The only offing the board of Tesla will ever do to Musk if of the sucking variety Despite being thoroughly depressingly true, I must confess I did spit out a good blast of coffee there | ||
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Sermokala
United States14058 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On February 26 2025 09:59 WombaT wrote: Despite being thoroughly depressingly true, I must confess I did spit out a good blast of coffee there The more depressing the times the easier it is to be funny | ||
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Vivax
22106 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + How many far-right propagandists on x are actors and essentially e-hookers who get paid in crypto under the table when they‘re good at servicing Skum and the agenda ? Something we will probably never find out. Hypothetically, if a European got assigned ‚missions‘ by those running twitler and was paid in crypto to do them, wouldn‘t that make them a foreign agent ? If I were in EU right now with its crappy financial oversight, I‘d start worrying about oversea bribes to influence our politics right about now. Especially when it smells of fascism from across the atlantic, and we aren‘t equipped to deal with the information aspect cause they were too busy dealing with hogwash. The internet is up and running ready to be weaponized against dissenters and reward compliant puppets without the authorities having a way to find out. Maybe it‘s just me but accepting payments from someone who has the information monopoly on you seems like sheer madness. It opens up your country to all sorts of fuckery and manipulation. ‚Strategic crypto reserve‘ signed Trump. Oh now it‘s pretty obvious it‘s a dollar-backed construct that facilitates black market deals and undermines foreign currency. They‘ll even monopolize crime these days. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45177 Posts
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tesla-cybertruck-recall-elon-musk_n_67dc4796e4b034ade1e82f8f?d_id=8863938&ref=bffbhuffpost&ncid_tag=fcbklnkushpmg00000063&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&utm_campaign=us_main&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2HswUnI7DAIFpwVoD47LhhK-WP9IQLIAG4RLn0wP8WUkFmsMih2WCTKTM_aem_9gebZd3R4Uad_CC3WeJF3Q | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10825 Posts
I mean, someone gotta check that stuff before it's deemed safe for sale? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11688 Posts
On March 21 2025 23:22 Velr wrote: How does such a shitbox actually make it onto the shelfs? I mean, someone gotta check that stuff before it's deemed safe for sale? And who is gonna tell Musk that it isn't save, and that he cannot sell it for another while? Not someone who wants to keep having a job, that is for certain. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17159 Posts
On March 21 2025 23:22 Velr wrote: How does such a shitbox actually make it onto the shelfs? I mean, someone gotta check that stuff before it's deemed safe for sale? a lot of prisoner of the moment stuff here. The Ford Pinto explodes on impact. American cars are fucking garbage. Always have been. it was tested and proven to burn up on impact. it still went on sale. Now, we have Trump claiming that Americans were robbed of the auto industry. whatever man. LOL. Why did the auto industry die in Michigan? Idiot unions like the UAW filled with lazy and sloppy workers and also... Toyota Corolla >> Ford Pinto Crappy American cars? Wow, that's never happened before! LOL. American made cars have been garbage for a very long time. It is weird to me that the media can somehow package this information up so that it is some kind of "new development". Fuck Tesla. Toyota all the way boys. All my cars: '99 Tercel, '05 Echo, '08 Corolla, '13 Corolla, '18 Corolla, '23 Corolla. You go to a Toyota Dealership and you know the exact price every time. You go to an Dealership that sells American made cars and you get idiots like this... EDIT: I had a Camaro Z28 for 1 year when I was 18 in order to pick up girls. it was a poorly engineered piece of garbage. | ||
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Artesimo
Germany564 Posts
On March 23 2025 13:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote: a lot of prisoner of the moment stuff here. The Ford Pinto explodes on impact. American cars are fucking garbage. Always have been. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mqu-gRqt3g it was tested and proven to burn up on impact. it still went on sale. Now, we have Trump claiming that Americans were robbed of the auto industry. whatever man. LOL. Why did the auto industry die in Michigan? Idiot unions like the UAW filled with lazy and sloppy workers and also... Toyota Corolla >> Ford Pinto Crappy American cars? Wow, that's never happened before! LOL. American made cars have been garbage for a very long time. It is weird to me that the media can somehow package this information up so that it is some kind of "new development". Fuck Tesla. Toyota all the way boys. All my cars: '99 Tercel, '05 Echo, '08 Corolla, '13 Corolla, '18 Corolla, '23 Corolla. You go to a Toyota Dealership and you know the exact price every time. You go to an Dealership that sells American made cars and you get idiots like this... EDIT: I had a Camaro Z28 for 1 year when I was 18 in order to pick up girls. it was a poorly engineered piece of garbage. I am as far away from a car person as you can be, so I might have made an error when I looked up these cars, but are both of your examples from 30-45 years ago? Camaro Z28 produced up to 1993, Ford Pinto up to 1980. I think you need something more recent than that to point towards "prisoner of the moment". I admit that I am woefully uneducated when it comes to cars, but I would assume that they had leaps and bounds of advancements in quality assurance and safety regulation over the last 30years. And there is also a harsh difference between a car that spends more time in the shop than on the road (I assume your Camaro fits that description), than one that might kill you like the Pinto, or something that is a road hazzard like the Cybertruck. Even though it seems more of a minor road hazard as the detaching part isn't big or heavy as I understand. But I am also coming at this from a european perspective where the state generally seems to be protecting its citizens more. Maybe things detaching from brand new a car isn't that unusual in the US. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10825 Posts
American cars for a looooong time had a bad name until about the ~00's? I didn't hear much about actual quality issues since then? Ironically the early Teslas had the exact same complaints that american cars had for a looong time --> Being cheaply put together, not caring much about parts fitting nicely, cheap interiours and so on (I don't have the lingo to describe this in english :p). I just toguth defects like "there is a high chance that certain parts are falling of the car..." is something that even in the US should be checked before it's demeed road legal? Assuming they didn't do a VW and just cheated to their hearts content  . | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10253 Posts
On March 24 2025 23:55 Velr wrote: Heh, funny... I actually drive a (Canadian) Camaro Z28 SS, the thing refuses to die and is just really nice to drive. American cars for a looooong time had a bad name until about the ~00's? I didn't hear much about actual quality issues since then? Ironically the early Teslas had the exact same complaints that american cars had for a looong time --> Being cheaply put together, not caring much about parts fitting nicely, cheap interiours and so on (I don't have the lingo to describe this in english :p). I just toguth defects like "there is a high chance that certain parts are falling of the car..." is something that even in the US should be checked before it's demeed road legal? Assuming they didn't do a VW and just cheated to their hearts content .Family friends have described driving around in a Tesla like you're driving around in a hard plastic container. Feels cheap and drives cheap. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
Hahahahaha. We’re seeing levels of backpedaling I hadn’t previously thought possible. I’m assuming this is more an attempt to rehabilitate his image over in Europe rather than some proposition he thinks has realistic prospects. Perhaps Musk has just grown accustomed to fanboys and gals and forgets how Joe and Jane Public feel and behave. Even aside from mere association with Trump, which isn’t especially popular over in much of Europe, Musk’s personal interjections in various locales are the real kicker for many. I know folks who were pretty ambivalent on the lad until relatively recently times who now very much think he’s a cunt nowadays. Good luck in reversing that | ||
Dan HH
Romania9144 Posts
On April 08 2025 20:24 WombaT wrote: Elon Musk says he hopes for 'free trade zone' between Europe and the US Hahahahaha. We’re seeing levels of backpedaling I hadn’t previously thought possible. I’m assuming this is more an attempt to rehabilitate his image over in Europe rather than some proposition he thinks has realistic prospects. Perhaps Musk has just grown accustomed to fanboys and gals and forgets how Joe and Jane Public feel and behave. Even aside from mere association with Trump, which isn’t especially popular over in much of Europe, Musk’s personal interjections in various locales are the real kicker for many. I know folks who were pretty ambivalent on the lad until relatively recently times who now very much think he’s a cunt nowadays. Good luck in reversing that I haven't paid much attention to it so I could be wrong, but my impression was that he was always against tariffs/trade wars. He intersects with Trump on bashing minorities and stealing money from orphans, but I'm not sure they ever saw eye to eye on trade. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
On April 08 2025 21:15 Dan HH wrote: I haven't paid much attention to it so I could be wrong, but my impression was that he was always against tariffs/trade wars. He intersects with Trump on bashing minorities and stealing money from orphans, but I'm not sure they ever saw eye to eye on trade. Aye you’re correct there, but given he’s seemingly got the square root of fuck all leverage in shifting Trump on tariffs that is why I am concluding it’s part of him trying to rehabilitate his own image over in ye olde Europa. ‘Hey forget all that stuff I was doing a while back when I was ingratiating myself with Trump, I’m on your side Europe!’ essentially. Par example this kinda craic | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway751 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
On April 08 2025 21:38 Timebon3s wrote: Maybe he doesn't want Tesla to lose shitloads of money on this crap. I think a reasonable desire. But another problem he’s having is the double-edged sword that is being the ‘genius’ face of many of his companies. This is fine when you’re a popular, or even neutral figure. When people think you’re a cunt it can backfire. Such as, idk shit like this? Plenty of other CEO/owner types are cunts, but their personal brands aren’t so inextricably tied to their company, so people can separate the two abs to ‘hey I think x is a ballbag, but hey I can be OK buying off their company.’ | ||
KwarK
United States43359 Posts
On April 08 2025 21:38 Timebon3s wrote: Maybe he doesn't want Tesla to lose shitloads of money on this crap. Tesla is far less valuable to Musk than SpaceX at this point. SpaceX had essentially won space launches. Their cost per launch is orders of magnitude below anyone else which gives them all the orders which gives them all the volume which gives them the lowest cost on every bid in a feedback loop. And their low orbit constellations are only game in town. It'd take a concerted multinational coalition spending a shitload of money to create a rival to SpaceX and that rival would have to take huge losses year on year to achieve something SpaceX is already providing. There was basically no chance of that beyond maybe China deciding it was a strategic necessity worth sinking the capital into. Then Musk politicized SpaceX and Europeans started asking for more details on these huge losses year on year and asking around to see if anyone wanted to join a multinational coalition. It's funny to see Tesla's sales collapse worldwide but it doesn't actually matter to Musk anymore. It'd be like if people stopped buying books on Amazon. Sure, Bezos made his first fortune as an online book retailer, but that's not why he's rich today. SpaceX is what was going to make Musk the trillionaire technodictator. And that's the one that he's really done the damage to. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45177 Posts
Tesla Accused Of Speeding Up Odometers So Their Warranties Expire Faster Odometer fraud: very much illegal A Tesla owner in California is seeking a class-action lawsuit on behalf of all other Tesla owners in the state after he says the company has been systematically altering odometers so their warranties expire faster. Lead plaintiff Nyree Hinton said he bought a used Model Y in December 2022 with 36,772 miles on it. But after several visits to Tesla for repairs completed under warranty, he said, he began to notice odd quirks with the odometer, which regularly overestimated his mileage by at least 15% but sometimes as much as 117%. From March 2023 to June 2023, for instance, Hinton said, his car logged 72.35 miles per day despite him having a consistent driving routine of just 20 miles per day. After the vehicle’s 50,000-mile basic warranty expired in July 2023, Hinton said, the odometer then began to underreport his daily usage. In April 2024, the lawsuit alleges, the Model Y reported around 50 average daily miles, despite Hinton driving a 100-mile commute two to three days a week. The lawsuit points to similar tales shared by other Tesla owners online as the basis for class-action status. According to the lawsuit, Tesla’s odometer system isn’t physically linked to the number of miles the vehicle has traveled, instead relying on data like energy consumption, driving behavior and predictive algorithms to estimate distance traveled. “By tying warranty limits and lease mileage caps to inflated ‘odometer’ readings, Tesla increases repair revenue, reduces warranty obligations, and compels consumers to purchase extended warranties prematurely,” the suit said. Odometer fraud constitutes a federal crime, with cumulative penalties that can be applied for every instance of odometer tampering. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tesla-accused-speeding-up-odometers_n_6802a133e4b058dd596307ab?d_id=8972529 | ||
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