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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-22 21:51:26
November 22 2024 21:51 GMT
#481
On November 23 2024 06:40 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2024 05:48 Fleetfeet wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:12 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:05 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 22:55 Magic Powers wrote:
To stay true to the thread title, lets give another recent example of Elon spreading misinformation. It's a fun little pastime when he doesn't try to spread more fascism.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1858916546338590740

His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI and so he has to post it on Twitter with the minimal impulse control he has.
Not exactly the smartest egg in the basket to begin with, but his right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie.


Can you point out misinformation in his tweet??

I'll point 3 in your post:

"example of Elon spreading misinformation"
"His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI"
"right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie"


There is no connection to DEI.


I think Razyda's point is that the ideas you presented aren't supported purely by your link, which is a four-word tweet replying to some other tweet. I trust on some level you've read enough to make the connections necessary, but they're not being presented/referenced. I think that's reasonably fair criticism, if that's what they're after.


Read the tweet Elon referred to.

"I don't think the US Taxpayer should pay for the employment of a "Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)" at the US International Development Finance Corporation."

The "she/her" remark is a direct logical leap from "Diversification" as it's being interpreted as "diversity" and it's intended as an attack on wokeness, more specifically on DEI in this instance. This is right-wing logic, not normal people logic. Of course to normal people the logical leap makes no sense because the job position has nothing to do with DEI or wokeness.

There are no other explanations for the "she/her" remark in regards to "Diversification". DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years.



I thought it was more sexist than anti-DEI. The she/her indicates this is a woman and it's no coincidence that Elon thinks this woman director has a "fake job." He obviously thinks women have no right doing anything besides birthing his Musklings. Remember, this is right wing logic, not normal people logic.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2846 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-22 22:30:56
November 22 2024 22:29 GMT
#482
On November 23 2024 06:40 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2024 05:48 Fleetfeet wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:12 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:05 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 22:55 Magic Powers wrote:
To stay true to the thread title, lets give another recent example of Elon spreading misinformation. It's a fun little pastime when he doesn't try to spread more fascism.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1858916546338590740

His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI and so he has to post it on Twitter with the minimal impulse control he has.
Not exactly the smartest egg in the basket to begin with, but his right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie.


Can you point out misinformation in his tweet??

I'll point 3 in your post:

"example of Elon spreading misinformation"
"His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI"
"right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie"


There is no connection to DEI.


I think Razyda's point is that the ideas you presented aren't supported purely by your link, which is a four-word tweet replying to some other tweet. I trust on some level you've read enough to make the connections necessary, but they're not being presented/referenced. I think that's reasonably fair criticism, if that's what they're after.


Read the tweet Elon referred to.

"I don't think the US Taxpayer should pay for the employment of a "Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)" at the US International Development Finance Corporation."

The "she/her" remark is a direct logical leap from "Diversification" as it's being interpreted as "diversity" and it's intended as an attack on wokeness, more specifically on DEI in this instance. This is right-wing logic, not normal people logic. Of course to normal people the logical leap makes no sense because the job position has nothing to do with DEI or wokeness.

There are no other explanations for the "she/her" remark in regards to "Diversification". DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years.


Sure, but without context such as "DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years" and whatever other prior knowledge you have, it's very hard to look at that link and not just read Elon's four words and engage the simplest and most charitable explanation of him directly and only referring to the job title "Director of Climate Diversification".

I understand how much potential dogwhistling and indirect inference is going on in the tweet he's platforming (the one that isn't his own words), but in this particular case it's a stretch to extrapolate that Elon is commenting on DEI with these four words. I understand very much that it COULD be true, but in order to demonstrate that you'd have to have more sources showing why you believe what you believe.

To be clear, my goal here is not to express that your beliefs are wrong, simply that you're being ineffective in expressing them because anyone who does not already share your beliefs will not read that tweet as you have.
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland965 Posts
November 22 2024 22:39 GMT
#483
On November 23 2024 05:48 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2024 02:12 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:05 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 22:55 Magic Powers wrote:
To stay true to the thread title, lets give another recent example of Elon spreading misinformation. It's a fun little pastime when he doesn't try to spread more fascism.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1858916546338590740

His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI and so he has to post it on Twitter with the minimal impulse control he has.
Not exactly the smartest egg in the basket to begin with, but his right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie.


Can you point out misinformation in his tweet??

I'll point 3 in your post:

"example of Elon spreading misinformation"
"His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI"
"right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie"


There is no connection to DEI.


I think Razyda's point is that the ideas you presented aren't supported purely by your link, which is a four-word tweet replying to some other tweet. I trust on some level you've read enough to make the connections necessary, but they're not being presented/referenced. I think that's reasonably fair criticism, if that's what they're after.


What ideas exactly are in the tweet*? How many is "so many"? What are "fake jobs"? Job postings that aren't meant to be filled (which is occasionally a real thing)? Jobs where the employee doesn't actually need to do anything? Jobs that exist only on paper to help catapult the employee to some other jobs?

If the point is that a tweet that contains no actual information technically also contains no misinformation, I guess we can all enjoy what we've achieved today on this forum.

* post (formerly known as tweet)
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
November 22 2024 22:44 GMT
#484
On November 23 2024 06:51 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2024 06:40 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 05:48 Fleetfeet wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:12 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:05 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 22:55 Magic Powers wrote:
To stay true to the thread title, lets give another recent example of Elon spreading misinformation. It's a fun little pastime when he doesn't try to spread more fascism.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1858916546338590740

His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI and so he has to post it on Twitter with the minimal impulse control he has.
Not exactly the smartest egg in the basket to begin with, but his right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie.


Can you point out misinformation in his tweet??

I'll point 3 in your post:

"example of Elon spreading misinformation"
"His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI"
"right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie"


There is no connection to DEI.


I think Razyda's point is that the ideas you presented aren't supported purely by your link, which is a four-word tweet replying to some other tweet. I trust on some level you've read enough to make the connections necessary, but they're not being presented/referenced. I think that's reasonably fair criticism, if that's what they're after.


Read the tweet Elon referred to.

"I don't think the US Taxpayer should pay for the employment of a "Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)" at the US International Development Finance Corporation."

The "she/her" remark is a direct logical leap from "Diversification" as it's being interpreted as "diversity" and it's intended as an attack on wokeness, more specifically on DEI in this instance. This is right-wing logic, not normal people logic. Of course to normal people the logical leap makes no sense because the job position has nothing to do with DEI or wokeness.

There are no other explanations for the "she/her" remark in regards to "Diversification". DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years.



I thought it was more sexist than anti-DEI. The she/her indicates this is a woman and it's no coincidence that Elon thinks this woman director has a "fake job." He obviously thinks women have no right doing anything besides birthing his Musklings. Remember, this is right wing logic, not normal people logic.

Nah the she/her is a clear dig at preferred pronouns I reckon. So the thrust I think is very much at making fun of DEI and wokeness. Although perhaps there is something instructive in him jumping to ‘must be a woman’ as well, hadn’t considered that actually.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
November 22 2024 22:50 GMT
#485
On November 23 2024 07:29 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2024 06:40 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 05:48 Fleetfeet wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:12 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:05 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 22:55 Magic Powers wrote:
To stay true to the thread title, lets give another recent example of Elon spreading misinformation. It's a fun little pastime when he doesn't try to spread more fascism.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1858916546338590740

His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI and so he has to post it on Twitter with the minimal impulse control he has.
Not exactly the smartest egg in the basket to begin with, but his right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie.


Can you point out misinformation in his tweet??

I'll point 3 in your post:

"example of Elon spreading misinformation"
"His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI"
"right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie"


There is no connection to DEI.


I think Razyda's point is that the ideas you presented aren't supported purely by your link, which is a four-word tweet replying to some other tweet. I trust on some level you've read enough to make the connections necessary, but they're not being presented/referenced. I think that's reasonably fair criticism, if that's what they're after.


Read the tweet Elon referred to.

"I don't think the US Taxpayer should pay for the employment of a "Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)" at the US International Development Finance Corporation."

The "she/her" remark is a direct logical leap from "Diversification" as it's being interpreted as "diversity" and it's intended as an attack on wokeness, more specifically on DEI in this instance. This is right-wing logic, not normal people logic. Of course to normal people the logical leap makes no sense because the job position has nothing to do with DEI or wokeness.

There are no other explanations for the "she/her" remark in regards to "Diversification". DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years.


Sure, but without context such as "DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years" and whatever other prior knowledge you have, it's very hard to look at that link and not just read Elon's four words and engage the simplest and most charitable explanation of him directly and only referring to the job title "Director of Climate Diversification".

I understand how much potential dogwhistling and indirect inference is going on in the tweet he's platforming (the one that isn't his own words), but in this particular case it's a stretch to extrapolate that Elon is commenting on DEI with these four words. I understand very much that it COULD be true, but in order to demonstrate that you'd have to have more sources showing why you believe what you believe.

To be clear, my goal here is not to express that your beliefs are wrong, simply that you're being ineffective in expressing them because anyone who does not already share your beliefs will not read that tweet as you have.

I guess yeah not everyone is a seasoned Musk-observer, so what can be obvious to some can look benign or neutral to others.

It is quite difficult to source sometimes I’ve it’s years of cumulative stuff informing one’s intuition, but yeah agreed.

One would have to question why a man so against trans folks one of his own children disowned him, and he banned (dunno if temporary or not) the word ‘cis’ on his platform, would be using preferred pronouns in a Tweet if not facetiously.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
November 23 2024 02:12 GMT
#486
I could give so many other examples of Elon's anti-woke war on Twitter, this is certainly not an outlier. He brigades against wokeness constantly, so I am indeed observing a trend, not just pointing out a single tweet. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
November 23 2024 02:25 GMT
#487
On November 23 2024 11:12 Magic Powers wrote:
I could give so many other examples of Elon's anti-woke war on Twitter, this is certainly not an outlier. He brigades against wokeness constantly, so I am indeed observing a trend, not just pointing out a single tweet. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Imagine how bad a father you have to be that one of your kids actively disowns you, and you’re not just a regular da, you’re one of the richest people on the planet.

I can only speak for myself but I could stomach rather a lot for that kind of inheritance.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
November 23 2024 02:38 GMT
#488
On November 23 2024 11:25 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2024 11:12 Magic Powers wrote:
I could give so many other examples of Elon's anti-woke war on Twitter, this is certainly not an outlier. He brigades against wokeness constantly, so I am indeed observing a trend, not just pointing out a single tweet. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Imagine how bad a father you have to be that one of your kids actively disowns you, and you’re not just a regular da, you’re one of the richest people on the planet.

I can only speak for myself but I could stomach rather a lot for that kind of inheritance.


That was actually one of the vilest things I've seen from him. Literally lied about his daughter just to score with his fans and in doing so ruined his relationship with her forever.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
November 23 2024 04:59 GMT
#489
On November 23 2024 07:29 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2024 06:40 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 05:48 Fleetfeet wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:12 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:05 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 22:55 Magic Powers wrote:
To stay true to the thread title, lets give another recent example of Elon spreading misinformation. It's a fun little pastime when he doesn't try to spread more fascism.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1858916546338590740

His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI and so he has to post it on Twitter with the minimal impulse control he has.
Not exactly the smartest egg in the basket to begin with, but his right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie.


Can you point out misinformation in his tweet??

I'll point 3 in your post:

"example of Elon spreading misinformation"
"His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI"
"right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie"


There is no connection to DEI.


I think Razyda's point is that the ideas you presented aren't supported purely by your link, which is a four-word tweet replying to some other tweet. I trust on some level you've read enough to make the connections necessary, but they're not being presented/referenced. I think that's reasonably fair criticism, if that's what they're after.


Read the tweet Elon referred to.

"I don't think the US Taxpayer should pay for the employment of a "Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)" at the US International Development Finance Corporation."

The "she/her" remark is a direct logical leap from "Diversification" as it's being interpreted as "diversity" and it's intended as an attack on wokeness, more specifically on DEI in this instance. This is right-wing logic, not normal people logic. Of course to normal people the logical leap makes no sense because the job position has nothing to do with DEI or wokeness.

There are no other explanations for the "she/her" remark in regards to "Diversification". DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years.


Sure, but without context such as "DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years" and whatever other prior knowledge you have, it's very hard to look at that link and not just read Elon's four words and engage the simplest and most charitable explanation of him directly and only referring to the job title "Director of Climate Diversification".

I understand how much potential dogwhistling and indirect inference is going on in the tweet he's platforming (the one that isn't his own words), but in this particular case it's a stretch to extrapolate that Elon is commenting on DEI with these four words. I understand very much that it COULD be true, but in order to demonstrate that you'd have to have more sources showing why you believe what you believe.

To be clear, my goal here is not to express that your beliefs are wrong, simply that you're being ineffective in expressing them because anyone who does not already share your beliefs will not read that tweet as you have.


you’re trying to give ELON the benefit of the doubt? Why would you defend someone advocating for race wars in the UK?
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2846 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-23 19:38:41
November 23 2024 19:34 GMT
#490
On November 23 2024 13:59 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2024 07:29 Fleetfeet wrote:
On November 23 2024 06:40 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 05:48 Fleetfeet wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:12 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:05 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 22:55 Magic Powers wrote:
To stay true to the thread title, lets give another recent example of Elon spreading misinformation. It's a fun little pastime when he doesn't try to spread more fascism.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1858916546338590740

His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI and so he has to post it on Twitter with the minimal impulse control he has.
Not exactly the smartest egg in the basket to begin with, but his right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie.


Can you point out misinformation in his tweet??

I'll point 3 in your post:

"example of Elon spreading misinformation"
"His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI"
"right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie"


There is no connection to DEI.


I think Razyda's point is that the ideas you presented aren't supported purely by your link, which is a four-word tweet replying to some other tweet. I trust on some level you've read enough to make the connections necessary, but they're not being presented/referenced. I think that's reasonably fair criticism, if that's what they're after.


Read the tweet Elon referred to.

"I don't think the US Taxpayer should pay for the employment of a "Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)" at the US International Development Finance Corporation."

The "she/her" remark is a direct logical leap from "Diversification" as it's being interpreted as "diversity" and it's intended as an attack on wokeness, more specifically on DEI in this instance. This is right-wing logic, not normal people logic. Of course to normal people the logical leap makes no sense because the job position has nothing to do with DEI or wokeness.

There are no other explanations for the "she/her" remark in regards to "Diversification". DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years.


Sure, but without context such as "DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years" and whatever other prior knowledge you have, it's very hard to look at that link and not just read Elon's four words and engage the simplest and most charitable explanation of him directly and only referring to the job title "Director of Climate Diversification".

I understand how much potential dogwhistling and indirect inference is going on in the tweet he's platforming (the one that isn't his own words), but in this particular case it's a stretch to extrapolate that Elon is commenting on DEI with these four words. I understand very much that it COULD be true, but in order to demonstrate that you'd have to have more sources showing why you believe what you believe.

To be clear, my goal here is not to express that your beliefs are wrong, simply that you're being ineffective in expressing them because anyone who does not already share your beliefs will not read that tweet as you have.


you’re trying to give ELON the benefit of the doubt? Why would you defend someone advocating for race wars in the UK?


Not as much that as trying to express taking his tweets at face value or giving him the benefit of the doubt is only wildly unreasonable if you already think he's a monster. I suppose if your demographic is people willing to read a thread with this title, you're probably already on board. Again, I'm not trying to defend Elon, I'm trying to encourage robust argumentation.

On November 23 2024 11:12 Magic Powers wrote:
I could give so many other examples of Elon's anti-woke war on Twitter, this is certainly not an outlier. He brigades against wokeness constantly, so I am indeed observing a trend, not just pointing out a single tweet. This is just the tip of the iceberg.


This is my point, though. If it's just the tip of the iceberg people not already thinking that iceberg is a big stupid idiot are just going to see a tip of an iceberg and not a sign of the end times. "I could give so many other examples" is a poor defense to pointing at a relatively weak argument.

On November 23 2024 07:39 hexhaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2024 05:48 Fleetfeet wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:12 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:05 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 22:55 Magic Powers wrote:
To stay true to the thread title, lets give another recent example of Elon spreading misinformation. It's a fun little pastime when he doesn't try to spread more fascism.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1858916546338590740

His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI and so he has to post it on Twitter with the minimal impulse control he has.
Not exactly the smartest egg in the basket to begin with, but his right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie.


Can you point out misinformation in his tweet??

I'll point 3 in your post:

"example of Elon spreading misinformation"
"His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI"
"right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie"


There is no connection to DEI.


I think Razyda's point is that the ideas you presented aren't supported purely by your link, which is a four-word tweet replying to some other tweet. I trust on some level you've read enough to make the connections necessary, but they're not being presented/referenced. I think that's reasonably fair criticism, if that's what they're after.


What ideas exactly are in the tweet*? How many is "so many"? What are "fake jobs"? Job postings that aren't meant to be filled (which is occasionally a real thing)? Jobs where the employee doesn't actually need to do anything? Jobs that exist only on paper to help catapult the employee to some other jobs?

If the point is that a tweet that contains no actual information technically also contains no misinformation, I guess we can all enjoy what we've achieved today on this forum.

* post (formerly known as tweet)


My position is that the charitable 'normie' read of someone who doesn't follow Musk and therefore doesn't know he's kind of a monster is "so many" is "a lot" and "fake jobs" are "Jobs with no obvious benefit to the company/society" and nothing more than those three seconds of thought will be put in to it.

Also it's a tweet like a bandaid is a bandaid and I'll fight everyone.

I've said my piece on the subject, and I'm willing to respond further but I don't necessarily see the fruit.

WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
November 23 2024 20:53 GMT
#491
On November 23 2024 13:59 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2024 07:29 Fleetfeet wrote:
On November 23 2024 06:40 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 05:48 Fleetfeet wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:12 Magic Powers wrote:
On November 23 2024 02:05 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 22:55 Magic Powers wrote:
To stay true to the thread title, lets give another recent example of Elon spreading misinformation. It's a fun little pastime when he doesn't try to spread more fascism.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1858916546338590740

His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI and so he has to post it on Twitter with the minimal impulse control he has.
Not exactly the smartest egg in the basket to begin with, but his right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie.


Can you point out misinformation in his tweet??

I'll point 3 in your post:

"example of Elon spreading misinformation"
"His first thought is that "climate diversification" refers to DEI"
"right-wing bias turns him into a literal zombie"


There is no connection to DEI.


I think Razyda's point is that the ideas you presented aren't supported purely by your link, which is a four-word tweet replying to some other tweet. I trust on some level you've read enough to make the connections necessary, but they're not being presented/referenced. I think that's reasonably fair criticism, if that's what they're after.


Read the tweet Elon referred to.

"I don't think the US Taxpayer should pay for the employment of a "Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)" at the US International Development Finance Corporation."

The "she/her" remark is a direct logical leap from "Diversification" as it's being interpreted as "diversity" and it's intended as an attack on wokeness, more specifically on DEI in this instance. This is right-wing logic, not normal people logic. Of course to normal people the logical leap makes no sense because the job position has nothing to do with DEI or wokeness.

There are no other explanations for the "she/her" remark in regards to "Diversification". DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years.


Sure, but without context such as "DEI also happens to be among the main things Elon's been obsessed with in recent years" and whatever other prior knowledge you have, it's very hard to look at that link and not just read Elon's four words and engage the simplest and most charitable explanation of him directly and only referring to the job title "Director of Climate Diversification".

I understand how much potential dogwhistling and indirect inference is going on in the tweet he's platforming (the one that isn't his own words), but in this particular case it's a stretch to extrapolate that Elon is commenting on DEI with these four words. I understand very much that it COULD be true, but in order to demonstrate that you'd have to have more sources showing why you believe what you believe.

To be clear, my goal here is not to express that your beliefs are wrong, simply that you're being ineffective in expressing them because anyone who does not already share your beliefs will not read that tweet as you have.


you’re trying to give ELON the benefit of the doubt? Why would you defend someone advocating for race wars in the UK?

Not really the issue people actually had with Musk in that instance
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On November 24 2024 17:44 KoveN- wrote:
I always knew this website had an extreme far left political bias. Good to see now people finally admitting it. Nothing worse than radical leftists who think and say they are centrists, whether delusional or intentionally misleading.

Extreme? Haha compared to what? What is your point anyway?
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On November 24 2024 21:30 WombaT wrote:
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On November 24 2024 17:44 KoveN- wrote:
I always knew this website had an extreme far left political bias. Good to see now people finally admitting it. Nothing worse than radical leftists who think and say they are centrists, whether delusional or intentionally misleading.

Extreme? Haha compared to what? What is your point anyway?

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Probably just to steer up some shit.

I wouldn’t say this place is “extremely far left” just extreme in the sense that it is very either/or.
But I guess that’s a reflection of American politics in general?

Is anyone even interested in trying to see both sides of things?
It feels like people have already made up their minds and are just trying to “win”.

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On November 24 2024 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On November 24 2024 21:30 WombaT wrote:
On November 24 2024 17:44 KoveN- wrote:
I always knew this website had an extreme far left political bias. Good to see now people finally admitting it. Nothing worse than radical leftists who think and say they are centrists, whether delusional or intentionally misleading.

Extreme? Haha compared to what? What is your point anyway?

Alright Wombat ffs put the hammer and sickle away and stop sending people to the gulag, would you?

Ok saying as you asked nicely, but I’m very reluctant to!
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On November 24 2024 17:44 KoveN- wrote:
I always knew this website had an extreme far left political bias. Good to see now people finally admitting it. Nothing worse than radical leftists who think and say they are centrists, whether delusional or intentionally misleading.


Gave me a good laugh, needed that today.
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On November 24 2024 17:44 KoveN- wrote:
I always knew this website had an extreme far left political bias. Good to see now people finally admitting it. Nothing worse than radical leftists who think and say they are centrists, whether delusional or intentionally misleading.


I don't think I'm a centrist.
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On November 24 2024 21:48 Timebon3s wrote:
Probably just to steer up some shit.

I wouldn’t say this place is “extremely far left” just extreme in the sense that it is very either/or.
But I guess that’s a reflection of American politics in general?

Is anyone even interested in trying to see both sides of things?
It feels like people have already made up their minds and are just trying to “win”.



With this attitude we'll never win :/
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On November 24 2024 17:44 KoveN- wrote:
I always knew this website had an extreme far left political bias. Good to see now people finally admitting it. Nothing worse than radical leftists who think and say they are centrists, whether delusional or intentionally misleading.


This gave me a good laugh
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