EPTAnti-Smoking Conspiracy? - Page 6
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
2373 Posts
Why would I talk about indoor smoke levels when there is a ban on smoking in indoor public places ? | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
2373 Posts
Dot Dot Dot... | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
I'll reply if you bring up an interesting point. If you continue this debate as if it were an ego-war, I'll just let you have the last word. | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
2373 Posts
I never said you said this. I said if you honestly believe that there aren't people saying this you should open your ears. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On October 09 2007 03:56 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: Yep, because I said that the upper levels of the medical world were complete morons. That was my implications. For sure. Dot Dot Dot... Again, you respond to nothing I said. When you discredit decades of work carried out by doctors from all over the world based solely on your opinion, then you're calling them a lot more than complete morons. Just implicitly. I wouldve liked this debate a lot more if you'd been a little open minded about it. Oh well. | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
2373 Posts
"And I've been talking about outdoor smoke this entire time. =/ Why would I talk about indoor smoke levels when there is a ban on smoking in indoor public places ?" | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On October 09 2007 03:58 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: "I think you probably skimmed through my post, because I never said this. If you know people who do, or if people in this thread have, respond to them." I never said you said this. I said if you honestly believe that there aren't people saying this you should open your ears. I do know a large number of people say this. I also know a large number of people say the exact opposite. This is a point I already mentioned in an earlier post. I think both groups are misinformed, and both need to be educated. But people get educated only when they're willing to be, and when they're reasonable enough to concede the other party might be right at least on some fronts. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On October 09 2007 04:00 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: And I repeat: "And I've been talking about outdoor smoke this entire time. =/ Why would I talk about indoor smoke levels when there is a ban on smoking in indoor public places ?" Oops, I missed that post. At least the misunderstanding is gone now. | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
2373 Posts
It's that with the current ban on smoking indoors the danger for most people(those of us not hanging around smoke filled houses) is fairly minute. A great number of people are under the impression that a smoker is negatively effecting their health in a big way and it simply is not the case because of the nature of outdoor circulation of air. I'm trying to say that that isn't really the case. Treating people who smoke rudely based on an incorrect understanding of the dangers of second hand smoke is silly. People should not be treated poorly just because people are misinformed. | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
2373 Posts
Parents with children should not smoke near them under any circumstances. Exposure to tobacco smoke outdoors is equal to and in some circumstances even higher than indoors. Not really as bad as a house filled with smoke but bad nonetheless. In fact, if you smoke outdoors near people you should make an effort to not have them downwind.  | ||
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baal
10541 Posts
Its a shame ive never been yelled at for smoking, mexico is not that nazi yet, but i do hope someday somebody will so i can then proceed to blow my smoke on his face. PS: seeing a female tit is unhealthy for a children minds and i dont want my kids to see that, you are infringing my civil liberties by exposing your private parts to my underaged kids ffs! (i obviously dont belive that its just the same position about "you are infringing my rights" fanatism banning others liberties for my dumb tantrums) | ||
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inept.
Iceland69 Posts
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DV8
United States1623 Posts
On October 09 2007 04:15 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote: My argument isn't that second hand smoke isn't bad. The ban on smoking indoors in public places is a good thing. I think it's bad that it is enforced on privately owned businesses as it infringes on reasonable personal freedoms but that is another argument entirely. It's that with the current ban on smoking indoors the danger for most people(those of us not hanging around smoke filled houses) is fairly minute. A great number of people are under the impression that a smoker is negatively effecting their health in a big way and it simply is not the case because of the nature of outdoor circulation of air. I'm trying to say that that isn't really the case. Treating people who smoke rudely based on an incorrect understanding of the dangers of second hand smoke is silly. People should not be treated poorly just because people are misinformed. I think people who get in the way of someone else's smoking in a condescending way needs to just get punched in the face.... Not sure what value that added to this thread, but I felt the need to get that out there. OK go on! I quit smoking! too so yeah... | ||
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