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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17268 Posts
March 07 2024 18:59 GMT
#13221
On March 08 2024 03:49 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 03:11 Manit0u wrote:
On March 07 2024 15:28 Acrofales wrote:
Chalk it up to yet another fucjed up thing Russia is doing:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/07/he-had-no-idea-he-was-being-sent-to-a-war-zone-the-indian-and-nepalese-men-on-frontlines-in-ukraine

Mangukiya’s death has shed light on the fate of dozens – by some estimates, hundreds – of Indians who have ended up on the frontlines of the Russia-Ukraine war against their will, after signing up for roles described as military helpers or security guards. In some cases, families say the men thought they were flying out for jobs in Dubai but then were sent on to Russia by agents.


In an ideal world, the Indian government would care enough about this for it to be a major diplomatic incident. For many countries this would be a casus belli. In the world we live in, Mohdi will probably sign off on a major arms shipment to Russia tomorrow so his citizens have better supplies as they are tricked into fighting on the front lines of someone else's war.


I don't know about India but in Poland (and I assume other European countries) you could get in a serious trouble for that. Citizens aren't allowed to serve in foreign armies, upon return back home you could face court martial for treason (people from Poland who joined French Foreign Legion for example have had issues like that, some of them are serving in our army but it's a taboo topic, most joined the legion under false names, as Ukrainians etc.).


They're very unlikely to come home anyway, if you're going to create a scheme like this it won't be so that you can give them the safe jobs, you'll send them to die in risky missions and keep your men.


For sure. The point I was trying to make is that India as a country might not do anything against it other than maybe dissuading its own people from going over there (although getting your citizens killed in someone else's war does look very bad). I don't really think it's a casus belli for them like some people here suggested.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7106 Posts
March 07 2024 19:10 GMT
#13222
On March 08 2024 03:47 zeo wrote:
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On February 09 2024 05:17 zeo wrote:
On February 09 2024 02:46 Silvanel wrote:
And also apparently known for more "soviet style" leadership and less caring about the lives of soldiers. Let's see what happens, perhaps Załużny really was too cautious.

Even this article from yesterday has opinion polls of Zelensky at 64, and Zaluzny at 88%, and Zelensky doesn't like not having undisputed power or anyone endangering his clique. Zaluzny for his part is doing the smart thing by going to retire to London to live out his days in luxury because pulling a Prigozhin cuts your life expectancy by a lot. A lot.

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On February 09 2024 06:00 Falling wrote:
Why in the world is the alternative to living in London is an attempted coup?.

Aaaaand called it:
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March 7 (Reuters) - Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has approved the candidacy of former army chief Valeriy Zaluzhnyi as ambassador to Great Britain, the foreign ministry said in a statement.

"The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine sent a request to the British side for an agrement," the foreign ministry said.

Zaluzhnyi, widely seen as a national hero for overseeing Ukraine's war effort throughout Russia's full-scale invasion, was replaced by ground forces commander Oleksandr Syrskyi in February.

Ukraine has not had an ambassador in Britain since Zelenskiy dismissed former

, opens new tab envoy Vadym Prystaiko in July 2023 after he publicly criticised the president.

reuters

Hes canceled elections in any case for the next six months but he has been very active lately removing any kind of opposition before his term as president 'officially' ends in May

Edit: up to the brits now to protect and have him ready to take over after the war. Want him publicly and accountably as far away as possible from what comes next.

I think it's hilarious that you suggest that Zelenskyi works like Putin, as if he would assassinate or imprison Zaluzhnyi lmao. Perhaps you should be more focused on your own leadership killing and imprisoning all critics of it
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4558 Posts
March 07 2024 19:26 GMT
#13223
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It's been reaching absurd levels with people arrested for ridiculous things.
Bringing flowers to monuments after Navalny's death...

Authorities suspected this to be organised and coordinated.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8087 Posts
March 07 2024 19:40 GMT
#13224
Imagine living in a country that arrests you for the simple act of criticising your leadership

Now imagine supporting such a country whilst noe even living in it.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17268 Posts
March 07 2024 20:18 GMT
#13225
On March 08 2024 04:40 Excludos wrote:
Imagine living in a country that arrests you for the simple act of criticising your leadership

Now imagine supporting such a country whilst noe even living in it.


I guess there are some people in the West who are not happy with the general ideology of modern Western culture.

Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4558 Posts
March 07 2024 20:32 GMT
#13226
On March 08 2024 04:40 Excludos wrote:
Imagine living in a country that arrests you for the simple act of criticising your leadership

Now imagine supporting such a country whilst noe even living in it.


The funniest thing is that there are pro putin french people, not realising that if our country used the same rules as Putin, they'd be put in Prison. Sadly, they do not go through their logic and walk to prison.
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
March 07 2024 21:20 GMT
#13227
It's simply the "my enemy's enemy is my friend"-logic.

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This is just something I thought about while walking to work this morning, but I wonder if political strategists realizing that antipathy is a stronger motivator than sympathy has fucked political discourse in the west for good. My second thought was that I need to wash my brain from all the hateful brainwashing it has been subjected to.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6932 Posts
March 13 2024 10:27 GMT
#13228
On March 08 2024 04:40 Excludos wrote:
Imagine living in a country that arrests you for the simple act of criticising your leadership


German prisons would overload right now. I guarantee it
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0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4558 Posts
March 13 2024 11:24 GMT
#13229
On March 08 2024 05:18 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 04:40 Excludos wrote:
Imagine living in a country that arrests you for the simple act of criticising your leadership

Now imagine supporting such a country whilst noe even living in it.


I guess there are some people in the West who are not happy with the general ideology of modern Western culture.

https://youtu.be/GsglcH7PxUk?si=23xpEmcTsUSIN9lM&t=395


It is funny, as there are those people everywhere that think they have it worth than they deserve and some of those can be blamed for that, some not, but a part of these people really likes it when Russia tells them it is not their fault and if things were done like in Russia, none of their problems would exists.

I think modern time have us trick to play the blame game. What would work against that?
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42772 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-13 11:37:40
March 13 2024 11:37 GMT
#13230
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17268 Posts
March 13 2024 18:08 GMT
#13231


An analysis by a former military man. According to him Russia doesn't have the strength to push much more into Ukraine due to heavy troop losses making their units combat ineffective and shortage of shells (1.5m shells they got from NK are failing at over 50% rate so it isn't as big of a factor as some thought it would be).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2558 Posts
March 13 2024 21:04 GMT
#13232
On March 08 2024 05:18 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2024 04:40 Excludos wrote:
Imagine living in a country that arrests you for the simple act of criticising your leadership

Now imagine supporting such a country whilst noe even living in it.


I guess there are some people in the West who are not happy with the general ideology of modern Western culture.

https://youtu.be/GsglcH7PxUk?si=23xpEmcTsUSIN9lM&t=395


I don't find this too surprising. I've known plenty of deeply conservative christian southern ontario families that would start to be alienated by their schools and churches. The denomination I grew up a part of has recently had voting on 'simple things' like whether or not openly gay people should be allowed to attend church, and it would not surprise me if the deeply conservative in those communities, who believe homosexuality is an abberation, would begin to feel that the country is 'going to hell' in a literal sense by these votes even being allowed.

Of course, they ruled against gay people being allowed to profess faith, and made it so faculty of their institutions couldn't be openly gay, but gay people are still allowed to attend their schools, so it's still all going to hell (insert big eyeroll here)
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17268 Posts
March 14 2024 16:33 GMT
#13233
Witalij Robertus, Lukoil vice-president has died at the age of 54 (no cause of death given). He's been working for Lukoil for the past 30 years. This marks 4th death among high-ranking management of this company within past 2 years.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
March 15 2024 19:44 GMT
#13234
On March 15 2024 01:33 Manit0u wrote:
Witalij Robertus, Lukoil vice-president has died at the age of 54 (no cause of death given). He's been working for Lukoil for the past 30 years. This marks 4th death among high-ranking management of this company within past 2 years.

Sounds like a rather dangerous place to be working these days.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17268 Posts
March 15 2024 21:10 GMT
#13235
On March 16 2024 04:44 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2024 01:33 Manit0u wrote:
Witalij Robertus, Lukoil vice-president has died at the age of 54 (no cause of death given). He's been working for Lukoil for the past 30 years. This marks 4th death among high-ranking management of this company within past 2 years.

Sounds like a rather dangerous place to be working these days.


Should probably apply for dangerous conditions bonus/hazard pay.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7106 Posts
March 17 2024 00:54 GMT
#13236
On March 16 2024 06:10 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2024 04:44 jello_biafra wrote:
On March 15 2024 01:33 Manit0u wrote:
Witalij Robertus, Lukoil vice-president has died at the age of 54 (no cause of death given). He's been working for Lukoil for the past 30 years. This marks 4th death among high-ranking management of this company within past 2 years.

Sounds like a rather dangerous place to be working these days.


Should probably apply for dangerous conditions bonus/hazard pay.

Bold to assume they have such a thing in Russia :D
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria818 Posts
March 17 2024 10:34 GMT
#13237
South Ossetia wants to join Russia according to this article. Russia was and always has been an evil empire...
I'm only posting this because they want to take Ukraine in the same manner.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1953 Posts
March 17 2024 20:06 GMT
#13238
Hasn't South Ossetia pretty much been occupied by the Russian military since they invaded Georgia in 2008?
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
March 17 2024 20:24 GMT
#13239
Yes. It's one of those frozen conflicts Russia keeps around in case they need a pretext to threaten her smaller neighbours.
You're now breathing manually
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8087 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-17 23:12:57
March 17 2024 23:11 GMT
#13240
Putin won the election with 88% of the votes. Now you may think this is suspiciously high for a leader who has racked up half a million casualties in his still-ongoing 3 day special operation 2 years ago. But remember, last time they held an election, 140% of the population turned up to vote, so presuming they did the same this time around, he only actually got a measly 63% of all the total.

Anyways, Russia is a fair and completely legit democracy. Don't look too close to all the assassinated political opponents
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