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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On October 01 2022 00:43 DropBear wrote: Can someone give a summary when the NATO presser is done please, I'm not able to watch rn Seconded. Seems like it could be some solid information for the thread overall. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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KwarK
United States42691 Posts
My reading of that is that if Ukraine continue the war into Crimea there will be no change in the NATO backing. If they continue into Moscow there would be but as long as they’re defending themselves within the pre 2014 borders they have a full commitment. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13932 Posts
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r00ty
Germany1056 Posts
After todays events, I personally think we need to start training the Ukrainians on the Leopards and see what we can pull together. Putin convinced me again. Edit: He also said, apart from more support for Ukraine, there'll be more support for and troops being moved to eastern countries of the alliance. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
But the big story is not that press conference but whoever the reporter was that asked the Secretary would it be wise to tell Ukraine to stop attacking said annexed territories since it risks nuclear war. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Artesimo
Germany546 Posts
People need to wake up and stop dreaming about ukraine simply joining nato and forcing russia to turn around and go back home peacefully. | ||
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npnl19
Russian Federation27 Posts
Hey KwarK, seems you don't bother did the research, repeating your news propaganda, better go work your cash register ~~ Summary, real people living under shelling, voted. Those who do not believe, go. + Show Spoiler + NATO go home :/ + Show Spoiler + mod edit: ASL spoiler User was warned for this post | ||
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Mikau313
Netherlands230 Posts
On October 01 2022 04:26 npnl19 wrote: NATO go home :/ The absolute irony. It would be funny if you weren't actively killing people. Russians go home. | ||
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npnl19
Russian Federation27 Posts
It would be funny if you weren't actively killing people tell that to Ukranians plz. Killing their own for 8 years. and still (on new borders - today more than 20 ukranian civilians dead trying to flee from Kherson (UA controlled) to the east (RU controlled), just cause. Russians go home. we are on our land. you are on other continent, mind your business, you were not interested in defending people of Donbass. | ||
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KwarK
United States42691 Posts
On October 01 2022 04:26 npnl19 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hey KwarK, seems you don't bother did the research, repeating your news propaganda, better go work your cash register ~~ Summary, real people living under shelling, voted. Those who do not believe, go. + Show Spoiler + NATO go home :/ + Show Spoiler + mod edit: ASL spoiler Cash register? What? | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17257 Posts
On October 01 2022 03:22 Artesimo wrote: 'Joining as soon as possible' still means not anytime soon as long as the war is still going. As long as there is a territorial conflict it is impossible for ukraine to join... Not to mention that it would make no sense for nato to let ukraine in right now, even if possible. Keeping nato states from becoming an active participant in this war is what has shaped the aid that ukraine is receiving the most imo. People need to wake up and stop dreaming about ukraine simply joining nato and forcing russia to turn around and go back home peacefully. Well, technically Turkey and Greece (both NATO members) are at war. Also, Canada and Denmark are exchanging control of an island on a weekly basis (decades long territorial dispute). I think articles might be pertaining to being involved in active conflicts where actual fighting is happening though... International politics can be complex. | ||
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Mikau313
Netherlands230 Posts
tell that to Ukranians plz. Killing their own for 8 years. and still (on new borders - today more than 20 ukranian civilians dead trying to flee from Kherson (UA controlled) to the east (RU controlled), just cause. First of all, I'm sure you can source that? And second of all, even if that's not a bold faced propaganda lie (which it is), how does that in any way justify the bombing, shooting, raping, torturing and murdering that your military is doing at the moment? we are on our land. you are on other continent, mind your business, you were not interested in defending people of Donbass. You are not on your land. You are on Ukraine's land. Ukraine is not Russia. Ukraine doesn't want to be Russia. | ||
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npnl19
Russian Federation27 Posts
Cash register? What? thats what i imagined you based on your TL posts. lol. dont take too personally though. im just a littlte pissed. ok im off. you guys continue your discussion. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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KwarK
United States42691 Posts
On October 01 2022 04:43 npnl19 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Cash register? What? thats what i imagined you based on your TL posts. lol. dont take too personally though. im just a littlte pissed. ok im off. you guys continue your discussion. + Show Spoiler + I work from home and average over $100/hr lol. I think you may be projecting. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Artesimo
Germany546 Posts
On October 01 2022 04:40 Manit0u wrote: Well, technically Turkey and Greece (both NATO members) are at war. Also, Canada and Denmark are exchanging control of an island on a weekly basis (decades long territorial dispute). I think articles might be pertaining to being involved in active conflicts where actual fighting is happening though... International politics can be complex. Neither of those are 'technically wars', and afaik, their nato membership predates the aegean conflict. Same goes for denmark canada. Its not a war by any definition, and the nato membership of both states predated the conflict. I also think they agreed to split the island last year. You don't get kicked out of nato for having territorial disputes, the rule is to prevent you from joining nato because you want some backup for your dispute. EDIT: JimmiC coming in with the details. It was just a couple of months ago? Covid times really messed up my perception of time | ||
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