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Cricketer12
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
With Trump + GOP senate we get (shitty) covid relief. With Trump +Dem senate Trump gets removed from office pretty quickly, and Pence + Dem senate can work out covid relief. With Biden + GOP senate we get nothing, ever, for any reason. On November 04 2020 13:33 GreenHorizons wrote: Well bang up job it's doing at that Yes, I felt like I didn't even need to clarify on the failure there. I'm always stunned that anti-faithless elector laws have been upheld as constitutional : faithless electors are the entire reason why there are people in those positions in the first place. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:36 Cricketer12 wrote: Mark Kelly (D) wins AZ Senate, but honestly, House is starting to look a bit scary ??? Most organizations have already called the House for Dems. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:36 Cricketer12 wrote: Mark Kelly (D) wins AZ Senate, but honestly, House is starting to look a bit scary Very expected; McSally was such a bad candidate that the Republicans gave away two Senate seats in red AZ to the Democrats. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:38 LegalLord wrote: Very expected; McSally was such a bad candidate that the Republicans gave away two Senate seats in red AZ to the Democrats. And an entire state in the Presidential election. Going to bed tonight, I'm honestly more confident in Biden winning PA instead of WI. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14000 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:38 Stratos_speAr wrote: ??? Most organizations have already called the House for Dems. not necessarily a flip, but repubs have made more ground than I thought | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14000 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:39 Stratos_speAr wrote: And an entire state in the Presidential election. Going to bed tonight, I'm honestly more confident in Biden winning PA instead of WI. as am i honestly, really idiotic we wont know for sure for upwards of a week from now | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
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Batmankills
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:40 Cricketer12 wrote: not necessarily a flip, but repubs have made more ground than I thought The democrats had such a huge margin in 2018 that they could lose at least 10 seats comfortably, and another 5 before they had to start making concessions. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:43 Batmankills wrote: fox calling arizona for Biden with 800k votes left to count is so dumb. They already had to retract Virginia call today Did they? Because every other outlet has had Virginia called for hours. | ||
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Shingi11
290 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:33 GreenHorizons wrote: Well bang up job it's doing at that hahah i was just gonna say this. if thats supposed to be one of the original purposes then what an utter failure this system has turned out to be anyways thanks for the explanations nevuk and flashftw | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12487 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:28 evilfatsh1t wrote: can anyone explain to me in simple terms what the actual benefit is of having the electoral college over popular vote? how is it even a democracy if the real popular vote doesnt get you the win? i cant be bothered to google through pages of shit to find an answer Sure there is a simple version here: | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10530 Posts
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:28 Nevuk wrote: I don't think you understand the hatred for the electoral college. It's not the "republicanism", it's that we already have an entire other branch devoted to republicanism that more than takes care of it (Senate by intent, House by reapportionment acts capping its size at way too small). There are other ways to do this that are better than our current method, without going straight to direct election of the president. It's clearly a failed experiment. Give me a prime minister or something instead. The Senate since the 17th Amendment is not really what I would consider republican, sure, the 2 Senators per state, but the actual way they are elected is not - it is democratic. Having the State Legislature select their Senator is republican, having the people vote for statewide office is democratic. You guys hate that too. How can you say get rid of EC, but fine with Wyoming having same Senatorial representation as California? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 04 2020 13:53 Wegandi wrote: You guys hate that too. How can you say get rid of EC, but fine with Wyoming having same Senatorial representation as California? I'm pretty sure they aren't fine with that, they just accept that's a much more deeply ingrained part of the system that would be even more difficult to get rid of than the EC. There's WAY less political will to reform senatorial representation than there is to get rid of the EC. | ||
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Anc13nt
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