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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Slydie
2015 Posts
On April 12 2021 22:59 JimmiC wrote: Brazil would be the counter to your point. Texas also has very strange numbers, they have so few cases it is pretty crazy. Like Florida (picking another Rep state for easier comparison.) Florida has 8x the number of active cases, and is 7 day average on deaths is half of Texas's. I'm not sure that we can gain much knowledge from Texas when they appear to be counting stuff completely different than everyone else. The good news is even Texas deaths are still falling, the bad news is that they still have the second most daily deaths of any state (talking 7 day averages if curious) despite reporting so few active cases. They also stopped tracking or at least posting the data about their hospitalizations right when they opened up, which is very suspect. https://covidtracking.com/data/state/texas/hospitalization I am not accusing them of anything, because I don't know, just that there numbers are so different from everywhere else, including other republican states, that it makes hard to compare them with anything. But again if you want to know what low (and the governors are trying to do lots) government intervention looks like, it looks like Brazil. And it looks horrifying. It is interesting how Texas might be polishing their numbers to fit their agenda, but I think the situation is interresting non the less. I don't think comparing to Brazil is that relevant. Among other obvious differences, they have only fully vaccinated 2,9% of their population, and actually have less confirmed cases per capita than Texas. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On April 13 2021 02:13 JimmiC wrote: Yeah Brazil is hard to know how many are truly infected, but given the amount of deaths and the lack of care they are probably near the top of the list for most. That being said, there has been tons of people who have gotten it multiple times, the original strain and then the Brazilian variant. They are the cautionary tale for no measures. Texas would be interesting if they were tracking the same as others. Florida is a little better but they also seem to have stopped on the hospitalizations, but I think they give a better indication of active cases at least. In Israel it seemed like once they were able to get above half the people vaccinated it made a huge difference, here is hoping the same happens else where! That being said people will not like them since they have a vaccine passport system. I think #1 for infected and deaths is probably still India, but due to infrastructure reasons is massively under-reporting. #2 is going to be Brazil and then it goes down from there. India I don't think had another option. Even with government support, there's no way for like 99% of the population to take any action beyond masking. Brazil is definitely more on the malicious end though. One of the few places in the world where you could reliably do a study on the effects of catching covid more than once(I don't think it'd be good. Even if you're young, and lose like 5% organ function each time, that's still significant). | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
For small workplaces, if 3 employees at your workplace get covid, provincial health officers can shut down the business for up to 10 business days in order to curb transmission. For medium/larger workplaces, that may mean shutting down departments, teams, or shifts for the same duration. There is financial support in place for the employees (CERB etc), but beyond that is up to employer. We're probably nearing further circuit breaker trigger points though, our cases have tripled over the last month, and we're nearing base capacity at hospitals for covid. We're starting to need to postpone some surgeries in the heavily affected areas as well to ensure staffing levels are adequate (a couple dozen surgeries a day). We can still handle it, but unless it drops we're probably going to need to cut more than that. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
I mean, India has the same population as China in 1/3 the land area. That's nuts. It's a public health nightmare. I only hope they eventually figure out a way to compensate and find some effective treatments that don't require as much infrastructure. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-covid-microchip-blood-virus-b1830372.html Pentagon unveils microchip that senses Covid in the body The microchip, which does not track movements, is carried in a tissue-like gel and is designed to continuously test the patient’s blood. “You put it underneath your skin and what that tells you is that there are chemical reactions going on inside the body, and that signal means you are going to have symptoms tomorrow,” explained Col Hepburn. I could see many people opting for the microchip under the skin over an app based covid/immunity passport due to the ease of use over constant app scanning. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7427 Posts
On April 13 2021 15:36 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: The Pentagon has unveiled an implantable microchip that can detect Covid in the body. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-covid-microchip-blood-virus-b1830372.html I could see many people opting for the microchip under the skin over an app based covid/immunity passport due to the ease of use over constant app scanning. Holy shit! Turns out the conspiracy people were right after all!  On a more serious note, something like this could also be used in diabetes and other blood diseases. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On April 13 2021 15:36 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: The Pentagon has unveiled an implantable microchip that can detect Covid in the body. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-covid-microchip-blood-virus-b1830372.html I could see many people opting for the microchip under the skin over an app based covid/immunity passport due to the ease of use over constant app scanning. I am very much surprised and pleased, I thought with this story there would be a different post coming. dunno, convenience is king nowadays. so maybe people yet again forget all about privacy and (data) security concerns and get chipped. over having an app doing basically the same thing in the end... just a little less invasive. and potentially less bloody, since putting away your phone is a bit easier than cutting out a chip lol. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7427 Posts
who is not afraid that the government will controll him | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5887 Posts
On April 13 2021 11:25 TheTenthDoc wrote: The slums in India and the favelas in Brazil both cripple any efforts at containing spread; huge chunks of the population aren't protected by "staying home" because their homes don't prevent the spread of fluid borne diseases, let alone droplet ones. Quarantine orders would mostly result in the virus running rampant through these poorer communities, who probably can't get tested or diagnosed, so re-opening just exposes everyone again. This already kind of happens in more developed countries, but it's orders of magnitude there. I mean, India has the same population as China in 1/3 the land area. That's nuts. It's a public health nightmare. I only hope they eventually figure out a way to compensate and find some effective treatments that don't require as much infrastructure. Their true population density is actually not that different when you account for the fact that about 2/5 of China is uninhabited: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://www.mdpi.com/sustainability/sustainability-09-00336/article_deploy/html/images/sustainability-09-00336-g001.png) | ||
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Slydie
2015 Posts
On April 13 2021 16:23 Harris1st wrote: I expect everyone + Show Spoiler + who is not afraid that the government will controll him As long as the data is well protected and it doesn't create unnecessary fear and too many false positives, why not? As for the slums, they also have important advantages fighting Covid-19: a young population, no diabetes and immune systems very used to dealing with infections. As for doing nothing, the initial non-reaction in countries like Spain is also a good indicator, but I am more interested in how it plays out whith previous waves and vaccines done and a more educated population. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3721 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7427 Posts
On April 14 2021 23:01 DyEnasTy wrote: Got my first Moderna shot yesterday. Second shot is scheduled for May 12th. Surprised at how many family/friends are upset I got the shot. Why is that? In Germany we are going to have lockdown 2.0 from Friday and forward. Curfew from 9pm to 5 am, allowed to meet exactly one other person. Only grocery shopping possible. On top of that we'll ramp up testing by a lot. Every business will have mandatory testing for every employee that is not working exclusively from home at least once a week | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46542 Posts
On April 14 2021 23:01 DyEnasTy wrote: Got my first Moderna shot yesterday. Second shot is scheduled for May 12th. Surprised at how many family/friends are upset I got the shot. Congratulations! Are your family members and friends not planning on getting a vaccine? | ||
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TT1
Canada10096 Posts
On April 14 2021 23:01 DyEnasTy wrote: Got my first Moderna shot yesterday. Second shot is scheduled for May 12th. Surprised at how many family/friends are upset I got the shot. nice, only 1 month gap.. we have a 4 month gap between shots in Canada :D | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On April 15 2021 04:24 TT1 wrote: nice, only 1 month gap.. we have a 4 month gap between shots in Canada :D I mean it goes both ways. Personally, as somebody in one of the lowest age buckets, I'm glad. Otherwise I'd be looking at a late Q3 or early Q4 shot. As supply ramps up from the US though(and hopefully exports), I'd expect the 4 month timeline to come down, and for second shots to come down from 4 months to probably 6-8 weeks. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3721 Posts
On April 15 2021 04:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Congratulations! Are your family members and friends not planning on getting a vaccine? Most are planning or have already gotten the vaccine. The ones that wont are saying everyone is dumb because it was rushed out and we're all being used as part of the trials. | ||
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