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If this thread turns into a USPMT 2.0, we will not hesitate to shut it down. Do not even bother posting if all you're going to do is shit on the Democratic candidates while adding nothing of value.

Rules:
- Don't post meaningless one-liners.
- Don't turn this into a X doesn't stand a chance against Trump debate.
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This thread will be heavily moderated. Expect the same kind of strictness as the USPMT.
Bourgeois
Profile Joined June 2017
81 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-28 16:03:36
May 06 2019 06:28 GMT
#1
Use this thread to discuss the 2020 Democratic presidential nominees.
Poll: Who do you support now?

Bernie (47)
 
65%

Warren (5)
 
7%

Yang (5)
 
7%

Biden (4)
 
6%

Gabbard (4)
 
6%

Bloomberg (3)
 
4%

Buttigieg (2)
 
3%

Klobuchar (1)
 
1%

Steyer (1)
 
1%

72 total votes

Your vote: Who do you support now?

(Vote): Bernie
(Vote): Buttigieg
(Vote): Biden
(Vote): Warren
(Vote): Klobuchar
(Vote): Steyer
(Vote): Gabbard
(Vote): Bloomberg
(Vote): Yang




+ Show Spoiler [old poll] +
Poll: Who do you support?

Bernie Sanders (52)
 
43%

Elizabeth Warren (15)
 
13%

Pete Buttigieg (12)
 
10%

Tulsi Gabbard (12)
 
10%

Joe Biden (10)
 
8%

Kamala Harris (3)
 
3%

Michael Bennet (2)
 
2%

Seth Moulton (2)
 
2%

Kirsten Gillibrand (2)
 
2%

Mike Gravel (2)
 
2%

Beto O'Rourke (2)
 
2%

Tim Ryan (1)
 
1%

Marianne Williamson (1)
 
1%

Amy Klobuchar (1)
 
1%

Jay Inslee (1)
 
1%

John Delaney (1)
 
1%

Julian Castro (1)
 
1%

Wayne Messam (0)
 
0%

Eric Swalwell (0)
 
0%

Cory Booker (0)
 
0%

John Hickenlooper (0)
 
0%

120 total votes

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☐ Michael Bennet
☐ Joe Biden
☐ Cory Booker
☐ Pete Buttigieg
☐ Julian Castro
☐ John Delaney
☐ Tulsi Gabbard
☐ Kirsten Gillibrand
☐ Mike Gravel
☐ Kamala Harris
☐ John Hickenlooper
☐ Jay Inslee
☐ Amy Klobuchar
☐ Wayne Messam
☐ Seth Moulton
☐ Beto O'Rourke
☐ Tim Ryan
☐ Bernie Sanders
☐ Eric Swalwell
☐ Elizabeth Warren
☐ Marianne Williamson



Information about the candidates for reference:

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Michael Bennet November 28, 1964
(age 54)
New Delhi, India U.S. Senator from Colorado (2009–present)

Joe Biden November 20, 1942
(age 76)
Scranton, Pennsylvania Vice President of the United States (2009–2017)
U.S. Senator from Delaware (1973–2009)
Democratic candidate for President in 1988 and 2008

Cory Booker April 27, 1969
(age 50)
Washington, D.C. U.S. Senator from New Jersey (2013–present)
Mayor of Newark, New Jersey (2006–2013)

Pete Buttigieg January 19, 1982
(age 37)
South Bend, Indiana Mayor of South Bend, Indiana (2012–present)

Julián Castro September 16, 1974
(age 44)
San Antonio, Texas U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (2014–2017)
Mayor of San Antonio, Texas (2009–2014)

John Delaney April 16, 1963
(age 56)
Wood-Ridge, New Jersey U.S. Representative from MD-06 (2013–2019)

Tulsi Gabbard April 12, 1981
(age 38)
Leloaloa, American Samoa U.S. Representative from HI-02 (2013–present)

Kirsten Gillibrand December 9, 1966
(age 52)
Albany, New York U.S. Senator from New York (2009–present)
U.S. Representative from NY-20 (2007–2009)

Mike Gravel May 13, 1930
(age 88)
Springfield, Massachusetts U.S. Senator from Alaska (1969–1981)
Democratic and Libertarian candidate for President in 2008
Democratic candidate for Vice President in 1972

Kamala Harris October 20, 1964
(age 54)
Oakland, California U.S. Senator from California (2017–present)
Attorney General of California (2011–2017)

John Hickenlooper February 7, 1952
(age 67)
Narberth, Pennsylvania Governor of Colorado (2011–2019)
Mayor of Denver, Colorado (2003–2011)

Jay Inslee February 9, 1951
(age 68)
Seattle, Washington Governor of Washington (2013–present)
U.S. Representative from WA-01 (1999–2012)
U.S. Representative from WA-04 (1993–1995)

Amy Klobuchar May 25, 1960
(age 58)
Plymouth, Minnesota U.S. Senator from Minnesota (2007–present)

Mayor Messam.jpg
Wayne Messam June 7, 1974
(age 44)
South Bay, Florida Mayor of Miramar, Florida (2015–present)

Seth Moulton October 24, 1978
(age 40)
Salem, Massachusetts U.S. Representative from MA-06 (2015–present)

Beto O'Rourke September 26, 1972
(age 46)
El Paso, Texas U.S. Representative from TX-16 (2013–2019)
Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate from Texas in 2018

Tim Ryan July 16, 1973
(age 45)
Niles, Ohio U.S. Representative from OH-13 and OH-17 (2003–present)

Bernie Sanders September 8, 1941
(age 77)
Brooklyn, New York U.S. Senator from Vermont (2007–present)
U.S. Representative from VT-AL (1991–2007)
Mayor of Burlington, Vermont (1981–1989)
Democratic candidate for President in 2016

Eric Swalwell November 16, 1980
(age 38)
Sac City, Iowa U.S. Representative from CA-15 (2013–present)

Elizabeth Warren June 22, 1949
(age 69)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma U.S. Senator from Massachusetts (2013–present)

Marianne Williamson July 8, 1952
(age 66)
Houston, Texas Author, lecturer, and activist
Independent candidate for U.S. Representative from CA-33 in 2014

Andrew Yang January 13, 1975
(age 44)
Schenectady, New York Entrepreneur, philanthropist, and founder of Venture for America
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
May 06 2019 07:48 GMT
#2
Wouldn't this go in the USPol megathread?
Trans Rights
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10691 Posts
May 06 2019 10:17 GMT
#3
The answer to your quesiton is given in the Spoilers?

I like Warren, after that probably Bernie but honestly, I barely heard from any of these aside from Biden (pls no), Beto (dead on arrival?) and Buttigieg (seems nice enough but has 0 policy?).

Isn't Andrew Yang missing in the poll? Not that he has chances but he seems to get around on the internet a fair bit?
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
May 06 2019 11:45 GMT
#4
Gabbard is the best of a real bad bunch.
I mean half of them are talking about reparations to descendants of slaves 150+ years ago.If theres ever a system ripe for abuse and chaos it’s that.
Dems = Lunatics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
May 06 2019 12:00 GMT
#5
Wow, almosr communist is knocking on USAs presidency door. Gl with that even tho I love Sanders, he isnt right choice.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44250 Posts
May 06 2019 12:26 GMT
#6
Fortunately, we have many months before we need to pick a candidate At the moment, I like Warren the most, with Bernie and Pete not far behind. We'll see though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
May 06 2019 13:00 GMT
#7
Jeez, so many candidates! I hope the debates will be as entertaining as the 2015~2016 republican debates, but I'm probably in for a disappointment.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Bourgeois
Profile Joined June 2017
81 Posts
May 06 2019 13:25 GMT
#8
On May 06 2019 19:17 Velr wrote:
Isn't Andrew Yang missing in the poll? Not that he has chances but he seems to get around on the internet a fair bit?


Sadly, of all the Democratic nominees listed on Wikipedia, in alphabetical order, his was the only name of the 22 that could not be in the poll because TL limits the number of poll options to (strangely) 21. As a result, he is a victim of what he has been warning everyone about, that technology will make you disappear.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
May 06 2019 13:59 GMT
#9
Remove the top 5 most popular people and dems would have a list of good candidates lol. The most ideal dem to me is someone that doesn't run a campaign on raising taxes.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
love2d
Profile Joined April 2019
40 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-06 14:20:15
May 06 2019 14:19 GMT
#10
Hard to say, I think Sen. Sanders is the better candidate whilst Sen. Warren would be the better president.

Andrew Yang is the 2020 version of Bernie 2016, can't win but raises the points everyone needs to talk about.

The talk about reparations will be forgotten the second primaries are over and you don't need to out-IDPOL the other primary candidates.

I voted for Warren but maybe Sanders would have been the better choice, considering he has the best odds against Trump.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13902 Posts
May 06 2019 16:39 GMT
#11
Klobuchar is the candidate that will win the election easily but the coastal dems won't accept a flyover state candidate so I guess we're going to have an election.

But man 2020 is the year of candidates that have no chance and are throwing in to throw in. You thought that trump couldn't win another election but here comes the democratic party. Warren can't win tulsi Gabbard is a worse Hillary America isn't voting a gay candidate Biden makes trumps sexual misconduct go away A guy with the last name of castro is not going to win. And those are the candidates that are worth mentioning why they won't win.

Khamila Harris is the Californian candidate so she'll probably win if Bernie gets screwed again.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10691 Posts
May 06 2019 16:47 GMT
#12
You think the pocahontas bs is ruining warren or what exactly?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13902 Posts
May 06 2019 17:08 GMT
#13
On May 07 2019 01:47 Velr wrote:
You think the pocahontas bs is ruining warren or what exactly?

Shes been associating with the far left for so long that shes never going to be able to shake that off in a general or even a serious primary. She also burned her bridges with the far left by endorseing hillary instead of sanders.

She has no base and more skeletons in the open then anyone other then trump.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 06 2019 17:24 GMT
#14
Warren has a tough job ahead of her. Democratic primary voters are scared of losing again and due to that are being open about pragmatic candidates. Biden lead seems to be because voters current think he has the best chance of beating Trump. But until we get closer to a debate and a real primary, it is going to be hard to gauge.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12161 Posts
May 06 2019 17:29 GMT
#15
Not going to trust Biden's lead until we have more polls with >10 people under 50

I like Warren a lot but I still think Sanders is a better candidate. More name recognition, quite a bit more charismatic, and harder for someone like Trump to attack. The gap in electability is too large for me not to consider it when the policy substance is similar (arguably Warren's policies might be a bit better).
No will to live, no wish to die
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
May 06 2019 17:38 GMT
#16
On May 07 2019 01:47 Velr wrote:
You think the pocahontas bs is ruining warren or what exactly?

Warren's outrageous tax policy to pay for college is what's ruining her. So what if she fixes the college student loan issue by taxing trillions of dollars. That's one of many issues that needs fixing. And everything that needs to be fixed she believes can come from just taxing the income of the 1% and if not them then taxing someone or something else. You can't just endlessly tax everything. Maybe if she came out with proposals that weren't meant to win millenials-in-debt votes she'd look better.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-06 17:41:43
May 06 2019 17:39 GMT
#17
Lets not kid ourselves, Biden is terrible at running for office and the those Onion articles about him being a doofy uncle in the White House are the only reason he is even in the running. That meme of a character somehow obliterated his shitty record on pretty much every issue that matters to modern Democrats.

Edit: Warren going after billionaires is one of the least controversial parts of her platform. Most Americans have no love for the super wealthy and dislike student loans a whole lot.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
May 06 2019 17:54 GMT
#18
On May 07 2019 02:39 Plansix wrote:
Lets not kid ourselves, Biden is terrible at running for office and the those Onion articles about him being a doofy uncle in the White House are the only reason he is even in the running. That meme of a character somehow obliterated his shitty record on pretty much every issue that matters to modern Democrats.

Edit: Warren going after billionaires is one of the least controversial parts of her platform. Most Americans have no love for the super wealthy and dislike student loans a whole lot.

I disagree. I think there's a massive debate between those who are looking to retire on social security wanting trillions to fix that problem versus those who took out loans for education and can't get themselves out of debt. I also believe there are other groups of people who are looking for rich money to fix their problems and don't want to see it distributed elsewhere.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-06 18:04:59
May 06 2019 18:04 GMT
#19
On May 07 2019 02:54 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 02:39 Plansix wrote:
Lets not kid ourselves, Biden is terrible at running for office and the those Onion articles about him being a doofy uncle in the White House are the only reason he is even in the running. That meme of a character somehow obliterated his shitty record on pretty much every issue that matters to modern Democrats.

Edit: Warren going after billionaires is one of the least controversial parts of her platform. Most Americans have no love for the super wealthy and dislike student loans a whole lot.

I disagree. I think there's a massive debate between those who are looking to retire on social security wanting trillions to fix that problem versus those who took out loans for education and can't get themselves out of debt. I also believe there are other groups of people who are looking for rich money to fix their problems and don't want to see it distributed elsewhere.

And then there is me saying, “We should do both, really.” Student debt is a huge problem for the country and the student loan industry had enjoyed enough federal protection from being discharged. And the social safety nets created for our aging population need to be addressed. And none of this is going to happen on the cheap. The whole plan of pitting the young against the old only works if we buy into the idea that they need to fight over the scraps super wealthy are willing to give up.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
May 06 2019 18:47 GMT
#20
On May 07 2019 03:04 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2019 02:54 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 07 2019 02:39 Plansix wrote:
Lets not kid ourselves, Biden is terrible at running for office and the those Onion articles about him being a doofy uncle in the White House are the only reason he is even in the running. That meme of a character somehow obliterated his shitty record on pretty much every issue that matters to modern Democrats.

Edit: Warren going after billionaires is one of the least controversial parts of her platform. Most Americans have no love for the super wealthy and dislike student loans a whole lot.

I disagree. I think there's a massive debate between those who are looking to retire on social security wanting trillions to fix that problem versus those who took out loans for education and can't get themselves out of debt. I also believe there are other groups of people who are looking for rich money to fix their problems and don't want to see it distributed elsewhere.

And then there is me saying, “We should do both, really.” Student debt is a huge problem for the country and the student loan industry had enjoyed enough federal protection from being discharged. And the social safety nets created for our aging population need to be addressed. And none of this is going to happen on the cheap. The whole plan of pitting the young against the old only works if we buy into the idea that they need to fight over the scraps super wealthy are willing to give up.

I agree both issues need to be tackled. But I won't vote for any who says we will do it by taxing the 1% or any other income class. We already give up too much through income. I want a candidate that understands this. I lived off very little so I could pay off my debt and make a good salary. Anyone who wants to take more of my hard earned salary directly out of my paycheck will miss my vote. I'm not opposed to other taxes outside of income tax if they make sense.
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