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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
December 11 2018 17:36 GMT
#19621
So now Republicans are pushing hard for wall funding?
Has anyone just plainly asked them why they didn't do it during the last 2 years while they held Congress?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 11 2018 17:37 GMT
#19622
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 11 2018 17:42 GMT
#19623
It sounds like he was trying to be dismissive and Nancy wasn't having any of it.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-11 17:48:31
December 11 2018 17:43 GMT
#19624
On December 12 2018 02:36 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2018 02:29 Plansix wrote:
Ok, we are getting a live back and forth in the Oval office over wall funding. It is as dumb as you might think.



Edit: Nancy gives zero fucks. Damn.


I don't really understand what is meant by either of those things, but it appears juicy.

He is either trying to claim she hasn't secured the job as Speaker of the House or, more likely, that she is having some sort of problem because she is a woman. Pelosi just ran with it by essentially saying: "Please do not speak for the strength I bring to this room, it speaks for itself."

The whole meeting was a shit show. Trump called in the press for a surprise visit and attempted to use Schumer and Pelosi as props in a photo op. And in response to being ambushed in a photo op they didn't agree to, both of them went HAM on him. He looked like a child throwing a fit.

Edit: Trump is so god damn dumb. He tried to pull a stunt like that on a seasoned NY politician and Nancy Pelosi, whos own party is gunning for her as often as the Republicans. Did he think they were going to bend over backwards trying to be polite and friendly in the year of our lord 2018? Did he think they haven't thrown down on camera before?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
December 11 2018 17:46 GMT
#19625
On December 12 2018 02:36 Gorsameth wrote:
So now Republicans are pushing hard for wall funding?
Has anyone just plainly asked them why they didn't do it during the last 2 years while they held Congress?


It's just their new version of repealing Obamacare. Pretending they agree with their constituents for ratings but never actually intending for it to happen.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
December 11 2018 17:47 GMT
#19626
On December 12 2018 02:43 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2018 02:36 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 12 2018 02:29 Plansix wrote:
Ok, we are getting a live back and forth in the Oval office over wall funding. It is as dumb as you might think.

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1072541608493629440

Edit: Nancy gives zero fucks. Damn.


I don't really understand what is meant by either of those things, but it appears juicy.

He is either trying to claim she hasn't secured the job as Speaker of the House or, more likely, that she is having some sort of problem because she is a woman. Pelosi just ran with it by essentially saying: "Please do not speak for the strength I bring to this room, it speaks for itself."

The whole meeting was a shit show. Trump called in the press for a surprise visit and attempted to use Schumer and Pelosi as props in a photo op. And in response to being ambushed in a photo op they didn't agree to, both of them went HAM on him. He looked like a child throwing a fit.


Schumer also CRUSHED trump by getting him to take responsibility if there is any shutdown. He is on tape now saying it is his shutdown, fucking horrible move
Something witty
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
December 11 2018 17:49 GMT
#19627
Is there some video out there of what you guys are describing?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 17:50 GMT
#19628
He is PROUD to shut down the goverment over the wall.

Mitch McConnell, clean up in the oval office. Clean up in the oval office.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
December 11 2018 17:52 GMT
#19629
On December 12 2018 02:46 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2018 02:36 Gorsameth wrote:
So now Republicans are pushing hard for wall funding?
Has anyone just plainly asked them why they didn't do it during the last 2 years while they held Congress?


It's just their new version of repealing Obamacare. Pretending they agree with their constituents for ratings but never actually intending for it to happen.
So hit them with it.
Every time they bring up the Wall you respond they could have build it.
Every time they bring up the deficit you respond with the deficit in their last budgets.

Every Single Time until they stop or the literal end of time.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 11 2018 17:52 GMT
#19630
All the Republicans were like "it's the Dems fault if the government shuts down".

Then Trump was like, "IT WAS ME, ME BIG MAN ME SHUT DOWN GOVERNMENT FOR WALL".
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 11 2018 17:54 GMT
#19631
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 18:00 GMT
#19632
On December 12 2018 02:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
All the Republicans were like "it's the Dems fault if the government shuts down".

Then Trump was like, "IT WAS ME, ME BIG MAN ME SHUT DOWN GOVERNMENT FOR WALL".

I've never seen someone play themselves this badly until now. And he is going to leave that meeting thinking "Gottem!"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
December 11 2018 18:22 GMT
#19633
Does it matter? As we can see from certain other people, once you are in the cult of Trump, you will never back down, and simply exist in an alternate reality. They probably think that suddenly deciding to shut down government for a project that could had been funded 2 years ago is perfectly fine.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
December 11 2018 18:28 GMT
#19634
Shutdown blame has been bad every time. I'm happy enough voters see it as a bad thing such that even the 2016 GOP had to play nice.

I imagine Trump will try to shift blame once he has an advisor meeting.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
December 11 2018 18:28 GMT
#19635
On December 12 2018 03:28 Mohdoo wrote:
Shutdown blame has been bad every time. I'm happy enough voters see it as a bad thing such that even the 2016 GOP had to play nice.

I imagine Trump will try to shift blame once he has an advisor meeting.


all that will be on the TV for 24/7 if the gov shuts down is the clip of him going ' I AM SHUTTTTTTING IT DOWN!!!!!!!'
Something witty
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 18:37 GMT
#19636
On December 12 2018 03:22 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Does it matter? As we can see from certain other people, once you are in the cult of Trump, you will never back down, and simply exist in an alternate reality. They probably think that suddenly deciding to shut down government for a project that could had been funded 2 years ago is perfectly fine.

Considering the Trump’s cult following, or base, failed to beat out the rest of the country in the midterm elections, yeah it matters. He shuts down the government a week before Christmas people are going to flip their shit.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-11 19:50:46
December 11 2018 19:49 GMT
#19637
On December 12 2018 02:36 Gorsameth wrote:
So now Republicans are pushing hard for wall funding?
Has anyone just plainly asked them why they didn't do it during the last 2 years while they held Congress?


If the wall was built, then Trump would have to answer why there are still brown people invading white towns. If the wall remains unbuilt because of the Democrats, then it is the Democrat's fault your neighbors are brown. Also, we have so many walls at the border already. El Paso could pass as Israel if you didn't include pictures of the flags. So the political mythos of the wall as a solution to the demographic threat needs to be maintained independent of any real world facts.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
December 11 2018 19:57 GMT
#19638
On December 12 2018 04:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2018 02:36 Gorsameth wrote:
So now Republicans are pushing hard for wall funding?
Has anyone just plainly asked them why they didn't do it during the last 2 years while they held Congress?


If the wall was built, then Trump would have to answer why there are still brown people invading white towns. If the wall remains unbuilt because of the Democrats, then it is the Democrat's fault your neighbors are brown. Also, we have so many walls at the border already. El Paso could pass as Israel if you didn't include pictures of the flags. So the political mythos of the wall as a solution to the demographic threat needs to be maintained.
I know the wall is BS. That's not my point. The point to smack the GOP around the head every time they dare bring up the Wall, if you don't drill it into them they will use the wall for years to come every time the budget comes around
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 20:05 GMT
#19639
Trump is continuing to bank on immigration as the winning plan for him and the Republicans going forward. Because, in his mind, immigration was the issue that won him the election. But the reality is that it won him the election against a weak candidate with unlimited baggage and an FBI investigation that was dropping bombs right up until the election. And he tried the same thing in 2018 and got dumpstered, because independent voters could not care about the caravan and Democrats are spoiling for a fight.

So I’m gunna say that banking on immigration being a wedge issue that wins Republicans elections going forward, not so much. But it is sort of all they have left.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9641 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-11 20:43:36
December 11 2018 20:41 GMT
#19640
sorry, browser went crazy and hit post for me. this didn’t deserve its own post but since i’m here now, watching that oval video Schumer has never looked so Brooklyn before. His smug satisfaction when Trump buries the GOP on the shutdown fully helps me understand how he keeps getting elected. i really empathize with him for a moment there.

also TIL he is a distant relative of Amy Schumer.
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