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Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1670 Posts
July 16 2026 13:11 GMT
#117161
LMAO, now dyhb is basically accusing DPB (and I'm guessing everyone else who wasn't weeping for this POS) of martyring CK, hilarious.

The "I'm centrist representing most Americans but I somehow I spend all of my time defending Trump and his policies" guy who's favorite word is hysteria is basically accusing everyone to the left of him of murdering a podcaster.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3124 Posts
July 16 2026 13:14 GMT
#117162
If Kirk is a martyr then that means We Are Charlie Kirk is our nation's corresponding Horst-Wessel-Lied?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States672 Posts
July 16 2026 13:19 GMT
#117163
I get off the train a few stops before alleging Erika Kirk doesn’t care that her husband is dead, or her kids no longer have a father. Sometimes the depths of what politics does to your brain just astounds me.
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States672 Posts
July 16 2026 13:29 GMT
#117164
On July 16 2026 22:11 Jankisa wrote:
LMAO, now dyhb is basically accusing DPB (and I'm guessing everyone else who wasn't weeping for this POS) of martyring CK, hilarious.

The "I'm centrist representing most Americans but I somehow I spend all of my time defending Trump and his policies" guy who's favorite word is hysteria is basically accusing everyone to the left of him of murdering a podcaster.
It's a little on the nose to have some right-winger die in a political assassination, and a year later the only thing you can say is "an ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster." Oh, and his widow didn't care. Oh, and if you find those takes objectionable about a statue, you're definitely a Trumper. Stop being such a walking parody.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3124 Posts
July 16 2026 13:29 GMT
#117165
Of course Erika cares that her husband is dead, the grief tour has done wonders for her profile and bank account(s).
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1670 Posts
July 16 2026 13:42 GMT
#117166
On July 16 2026 22:29 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 22:11 Jankisa wrote:
LMAO, now dyhb is basically accusing DPB (and I'm guessing everyone else who wasn't weeping for this POS) of martyring CK, hilarious.

The "I'm centrist representing most Americans but I somehow I spend all of my time defending Trump and his policies" guy who's favorite word is hysteria is basically accusing everyone to the left of him of murdering a podcaster.
It's a little on the nose to have some right-winger die in a political assassination, and a year later the only thing you can say is "an ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster." Oh, and his widow didn't care. Oh, and if you find those takes objectionable about a statue, you're definitely a Trumper. Stop being such a walking parody.


I very specifically noted the things that make you a crypto right winger buddy, none of them had to do anything with your valiant defense of the racist sexist podcaster.

Also I called the guy all of those things on the day of the assassination, basically because he was all of those things, with quotes.

Nothing more distasteful then fake outrage, especially coming from the guy known for gleefully explaining how murdering 8 and 11 year old boys for stepping over an imaginary line is A-OK.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States672 Posts
July 16 2026 14:07 GMT
#117167
On July 16 2026 22:42 Jankisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 22:29 dyhb wrote:
On July 16 2026 22:11 Jankisa wrote:
LMAO, now dyhb is basically accusing DPB (and I'm guessing everyone else who wasn't weeping for this POS) of martyring CK, hilarious.

The "I'm centrist representing most Americans but I somehow I spend all of my time defending Trump and his policies" guy who's favorite word is hysteria is basically accusing everyone to the left of him of murdering a podcaster.
It's a little on the nose to have some right-winger die in a political assassination, and a year later the only thing you can say is "an ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster." Oh, and his widow didn't care. Oh, and if you find those takes objectionable about a statue, you're definitely a Trumper. Stop being such a walking parody.


I very specifically noted the things that make you a crypto right winger buddy, none of them had to do anything with your valiant defense of the racist sexist podcaster.

Also I called the guy all of those things on the day of the assassination, basically because he was all of those things, with quotes.

Nothing more distasteful then fake outrage, especially coming from the guy known for gleefully explaining how murdering 8 and 11 year old boys for stepping over an imaginary line is A-OK.
Nothing says "valiant defense" like maybe show less visceral hate for his beliefs a year after he was martyred for them. That's like Rule #1 about political martyrs: be more like "who cares" about a statue, than anignorantbigotedChristiannationalistwhitesupremacistpodcaster + Show Spoiler +
or his widow didn't care at all... or how dare you say I should give it a rest, that's asking me to cry over him!...
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6449 Posts
July 16 2026 14:09 GMT
#117168
On July 16 2026 16:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
An Italian artist named Sergio Furnari is apparently looking to show off a statue of an ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster, this September in New York City: https://pix11.com/news/us-world-news/statue-of-charlie-kirk-set-to-be-unveiled-in-times-square-heres-when/

Will be nice to have a prominent public reminder of what the particularly deranged among the left would do to those who disagree with them.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1670 Posts
July 16 2026 14:13 GMT
#117169
By all extents and proposes he was "martyred" because a guy who was dating a Trans girl was fed up by him constantly shitting on Trans people.

The guy who murdered him was a white Christian from a conservative family, but don't let that interfere with your preconceived notions.

Saying a piece of shit bigot is a piece of shit bigot is not hate, it's rational analysis of behavior of a piece of shit bigot's life and works.

So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3124 Posts
July 16 2026 14:17 GMT
#117170
On July 16 2026 23:09 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 16:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
An Italian artist named Sergio Furnari is apparently looking to show off a statue of an ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster, this September in New York City: https://pix11.com/news/us-world-news/statue-of-charlie-kirk-set-to-be-unveiled-in-times-square-heres-when/

Will be nice to have a prominent public reminder of what the particularly deranged among the left would do to those who disagree with them.


What disagreement? Charlie Kirk said "I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights." The assassin evidently agreed.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46310 Posts
July 16 2026 14:18 GMT
#117171
On July 16 2026 21:44 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 16:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
An Italian artist named Sergio Furnari is apparently looking to show off a statue of an ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster, this September in New York City: https://pix11.com/news/us-world-news/statue-of-charlie-kirk-set-to-be-unveiled-in-times-square-heres-when/
Spoken like the only good ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster is a dead ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster. Give it a rest for fuck’s sake, you’ve already made him a martyr.

I haven't made him anything, and I didn't kill him or ask anyone to kill him. Also, given his outspoken pro- gun violence position, remember that Charlie Kirk absolutely condoned what would eventually happen to Charlie Kirk. He probably hadn't considered the veil of ignorance, or never seriously thought he'd be a victim of his own stance.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6449 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-16 14:31:23
July 16 2026 14:20 GMT
#117172
On July 16 2026 23:13 Jankisa wrote:
By all extents and proposes he was "martyred" because a guy who was dating a Trans girl was fed up by him constantly shitting on Trans people.

The guy who murdered him was a white Christian from a conservative family, but don't let that interfere with your preconceived notions.

Saying a piece of shit bigot is a piece of shit bigot is not hate, it's rational analysis of behavior of a piece of shit bigot's life and works.


You say everyone is a piece of shit bigot, rationality got off the train many stations ago if it ever even had a ticket.

On July 16 2026 23:17 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 23:09 oBlade wrote:
On July 16 2026 16:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
An Italian artist named Sergio Furnari is apparently looking to show off a statue of an ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster, this September in New York City: https://pix11.com/news/us-world-news/statue-of-charlie-kirk-set-to-be-unveiled-in-times-square-heres-when/

Will be nice to have a prominent public reminder of what the particularly deranged among the left would do to those who disagree with them.


What disagreement? Charlie Kirk said "I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights." The assassin evidently agreed.

My mistake. Charlie Kirk's deranged terrorist assassin actually shot him for AGREEING with him. Thank you for the helpful correction.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3124 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-16 14:44:46
July 16 2026 14:23 GMT
#117173
Jankisa, can you please qualify which people are piece of shit bigots? Is it everyone, as oBlade says, or just people who have a history of saying explicitly bigoted stuff?

On July 16 2026 23:09 oBlade wrote:
My mistake. Charlie Kirk's deranged terrorist assassin actually shot him for AGREEING with him. Thank you for the helpful correction.


You're welcome.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1670 Posts
July 16 2026 14:45 GMT
#117174
Let's be precise:

A bigot is a person who holds obstinately and unreasonably to their own opinions and prejudices. They show extreme intolerance toward those who hold different beliefs, backgrounds, or ways of life. This intolerance typically manifests as discrimination, hatred, or contempt toward groups based on factors like race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation.


Let's hear what he had to say about Trans folk:

"The one issue that I think is so against our senses, so against the natural law, and dare I say a throbbing middle finger to God is the transgender thing happening in America."


Or on Race:

"The reason why there is disparity in outcomes in America is not because of systemic racism, it is because of cultural choices, it is because of family structure, and it is because of different levels of intellectual capacity."


And women of color:

"You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously".


Now, I could go on but I'll wait for our resident bigots to come to the defense of these sentences since they agree with them so we can all be on the same page where someone lands on the bigot spectrum.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States672 Posts
July 16 2026 14:55 GMT
#117175
On July 16 2026 23:13 Jankisa wrote:
By all extents and proposes he was "martyred" because a guy who was dating a Trans girl was fed up by him constantly shitting on Trans people.
The key element is actually killing the guy because you thought his speech was so hateful towards trans people. I have enough shared humanity in my perspective to not feel the need to shit on his beliefs a year after he was murdered for them. It's a statue, not the Charlie Kirk Memorial Act for Transgender Exclusion and Establishing Religion.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22551 Posts
July 16 2026 14:56 GMT
#117176
On July 16 2026 23:55 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 23:13 Jankisa wrote:
By all extents and proposes he was "martyred" because a guy who was dating a Trans girl was fed up by him constantly shitting on Trans people.
The key element is actually killing the guy because you thought his speech was so hateful towards trans people. I have enough shared humanity in my perspective to not feel the need to shit on his beliefs a year after he was murdered for them. It's a statue, not the Charlie Kirk Memorial Act for Transgender Exclusion and Establishing Religion.
Why?
Do his beliefs become less shit after a year?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7190 Posts
July 16 2026 14:59 GMT
#117177
On July 16 2026 21:44 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 16:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
An Italian artist named Sergio Furnari is apparently looking to show off a statue of an ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster, this September in New York City: https://pix11.com/news/us-world-news/statue-of-charlie-kirk-set-to-be-unveiled-in-times-square-heres-when/
Spoken like the only good ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster is a dead ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster. Give it a rest for fuck’s sake, you’ve already made him a martyr.

Funnily enough, Charlie Kirk's legacy is becoming a meme. Partly because the right wing tried really hard into making him a martyr but everyone thinks that it was overblown. Personally i don't care that he died. Why would i? This was a guy whose political positions were making life harder for anyone like me. I live like he asked (eg; not letting empathy come in the way of gun ownership). After all some gun deaths are acceptable to keep the 2nd amendment.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States672 Posts
July 16 2026 15:21 GMT
#117178
On July 16 2026 23:56 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 23:55 dyhb wrote:
On July 16 2026 23:13 Jankisa wrote:
By all extents and proposes he was "martyred" because a guy who was dating a Trans girl was fed up by him constantly shitting on Trans people.
The key element is actually killing the guy because you thought his speech was so hateful towards trans people. I have enough shared humanity in my perspective to not feel the need to shit on his beliefs a year after he was murdered for them. It's a statue, not the Charlie Kirk Memorial Act for Transgender Exclusion and Establishing Religion.
Why?
Do his beliefs become less shit after a year?
Hopefully you can call it a shitty Charlie Kirk statue and not a anignorantbigotedChristiannationalistwhitesupremacistpodcaster statue after he's been dead a year. Just in the interest of moving beyond the person who agrees with you and also thought he should die for it. See Rule #1 for martyrs.

On July 16 2026 23:59 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 21:44 dyhb wrote:
On July 16 2026 16:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
An Italian artist named Sergio Furnari is apparently looking to show off a statue of an ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster, this September in New York City: https://pix11.com/news/us-world-news/statue-of-charlie-kirk-set-to-be-unveiled-in-times-square-heres-when/
Spoken like the only good ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster is a dead ignorant, bigoted, Christian nationalist, white supremacist podcaster. Give it a rest for fuck’s sake, you’ve already made him a martyr.

Funnily enough, Charlie Kirk's legacy is becoming a meme. Partly because the right wing tried really hard into making him a martyr but everyone thinks that it was overblown. Personally i don't care that he died. Why would i? This was a guy whose political positions were making life harder for anyone like me. I live like he asked (eg; not letting empathy come in the way of gun ownership). After all some gun deaths are acceptable to keep the 2nd amendment.
Charlie Kirk isn't just a meme for the right. He lives on as a meme for the left. A year later, a poster is talking about a statue like Republicans just passed a Trans Exclusion Act in memory of Charlie Kirk. Somebody else said the widow didn't care that he died. Just move on, and say "who cares" if somebody makes a statue. I get the mocking of certain right-wing types, but I don't get making yourself into a parody of what right-wingers think leftists are at heart.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3124 Posts
July 16 2026 15:26 GMT
#117179
So Kirk was emphatic that:

1) he was ok if people like Charlie Kirk were shot to death so long as people like Tyler James Robinson are allowed to own guns.

2) empathy is a sin.

Sounds like building a statue in honor of Charlie Kirk is the opposite of what he wanted. If anything he'd want a statue of Tyler James Robinson.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46310 Posts
July 16 2026 15:26 GMT
#117180
On July 17 2026 00:21 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2026 23:56 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 16 2026 23:55 dyhb wrote:
On July 16 2026 23:13 Jankisa wrote:
By all extents and proposes he was "martyred" because a guy who was dating a Trans girl was fed up by him constantly shitting on Trans people.
The key element is actually killing the guy because you thought his speech was so hateful towards trans people. I have enough shared humanity in my perspective to not feel the need to shit on his beliefs a year after he was murdered for them. It's a statue, not the Charlie Kirk Memorial Act for Transgender Exclusion and Establishing Religion.
Why?
Do his beliefs become less shit after a year?
Hopefully you can call it a shitty Charlie Kirk statue and not a anignorantbigotedChristiannationalistwhitesupremacistpodcaster statue after he's been dead a year.

I never said the statue was those things. I said that Charlie Kirk was those things. Because he was. And he will forever be known as those things, just like how Hitler was a Nazi and how Trump is a rapist and fascist. We don't stop describing people accurately just because they die or have a statue erected in their honor.
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