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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17218 Posts
2 hours ago
#109241
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
Here's the facts: Someone disarmed him. Someone said he had a gun. Someone shot him. There's one shot, a pause, and several shots in the video.

how are the officers supposed to magically know the exact # of guns he has on him. 1 gun was removed from his person. does he have another gun? No one knows. You can't expect the ICE officers to be able to instantly assess that number.

To bring it back to the political though: Minnesota government officials instantly declaring the incident to be murder and Trump instantly declaring it legally justified are 2 sides of the same bad coin.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7319 Posts
2 hours ago
#109242
On January 25 2026 21:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
Here's the facts: Someone disarmed him. Someone said he had a gun. Someone shot him. There's one shot, a pause, and several shots in the video.

how are the officers supposed to magically know the exact # of guns he has on him. 1 gun was removed from his person. does he have another gun? No one knows. You can't expect the ICE officers to be able to instantly assess that number.

To bring it back to the political though: Minnesota government officials instantly declaring the incident to be murder and Trump instantly declaring it legally justified are 2 sides of the same bad coin.



Go fuck yourself. Theres video.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17218 Posts
2 hours ago
#109243
On January 25 2026 21:32 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 21:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
Here's the facts: Someone disarmed him. Someone said he had a gun. Someone shot him. There's one shot, a pause, and several shots in the video.

how are the officers supposed to magically know the exact # of guns he has on him. 1 gun was removed from his person. does he have another gun? No one knows. You can't expect the ICE officers to be able to instantly assess that number.

To bring it back to the political though: Minnesota government officials instantly declaring the incident to be murder and Trump instantly declaring it legally justified are 2 sides of the same bad coin.

Go fuck yourself. Theres video.

lol, great, and if we can stop time instantly, and give all the agents 15 minutes to do a zapruder film analysis of 10 different camera angles they might be able to determine how many guns he has on him. MAYBE. Then we can restart time and the enforcement officers will know he only has 1 gun and no one gets killed.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22066 Posts
2 hours ago
#109244
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 20:40 Jankisa wrote:
oBlade is just a busy little fascist boot licker who is bang on the narrative, together with refusing to even comment on the videos and how the US Veteran citizen who had the right to bare arms was disarmed and murdered by 7 fascist pigs for the crime of trying to help a woman because he knows it looks bad.

You know it's poignant how you've refused to comment on the death of Tiger Gutierrez for years, who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant with no driver's license.
Where does the illegal become relevant?

Would the death not matter if it was a drunk driving citizen without a license?
What if it was a drunk driving citizen with a license, would it matter then?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7319 Posts
1 hour ago
#109245
On January 25 2026 21:58 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 20:40 Jankisa wrote:
oBlade is just a busy little fascist boot licker who is bang on the narrative, together with refusing to even comment on the videos and how the US Veteran citizen who had the right to bare arms was disarmed and murdered by 7 fascist pigs for the crime of trying to help a woman because he knows it looks bad.

You know it's poignant how you've refused to comment on the death of Tiger Gutierrez for years, who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant with no driver's license.
Where does the illegal become relevant?

Would the death not matter if it was a drunk driving citizen without a license?
What if it was a drunk driving citizen with a license, would it matter then?



Ya like what is he even bitching about?

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8699 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-25 13:02:05
1 hour ago
#109246
On January 25 2026 21:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
Here's the facts: Someone disarmed him. Someone said he had a gun. Someone shot him. There's one shot, a pause, and several shots in the video.

how are the officers supposed to magically know the exact # of guns he has on him. 1 gun was removed from his person. does he have another gun? No one knows. You can't expect the ICE officers to be able to instantly assess that number.

To bring it back to the political though: Minnesota government officials instantly declaring the incident to be murder and Trump instantly declaring it legally justified are 2 sides of the same bad coin.


too bad we are back in the stone age and searching suspects has not been invented.

when the "suspect" is already on the ground and 6+ government sponsored thugs - enjoying lackluster training yet immune from any sense and professionalism - seem unable to restrain him properly. particularly one they already pepper sprayed straight to his face.

also the bolded part: fuck. no.

one horrible policy leading to multiple dead persons now, victims observing and being a nuisance...

and that is enough to call it interfering and giving the go ahead to blast them? calling them Terrorists?

each and every death was easily preventable. Republicans enabling the worst law enforcement operations in recent memory, in the US no less already not blessed with even a halfway decent police force to begin with.

and a Capo(Trump and his shitbird posse) cheering it on from his "Truth" platform. the disintegration of civil liberties under the guise of getting rid of "undesireables." happily lying their fake teeth off.

the other calling it out and being rightfully outraged --> coins are worth shit if that is how you measure its worth, unable to call a spade a spade and falling for both-side-ism.

then again crypto is all the rage so it checks out. what a travesty for people not willing or unable to recognize what is what.

sick jokers some of y'all.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9163 Posts
1 hour ago
#109247
On January 25 2026 21:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
Here's the facts: Someone disarmed him. Someone said he had a gun. Someone shot him. There's one shot, a pause, and several shots in the video.

how are the officers supposed to magically know the exact # of guns he has on him. 1 gun was removed from his person. does he have another gun? No one knows. You can't expect the ICE officers to be able to instantly assess that number.

To bring it back to the political though: Minnesota government officials instantly declaring the incident to be murder and Trump instantly declaring it legally justified are 2 sides of the same bad coin.

I also can't expect officers to magically assess how many guns you have on you when you walk down the street tomorrow or what planned masaacres are hidden in your head. Might as well righteously blast you as a precaution before you have a chance to explain to them you are a bootlicker, at least that's the conclusion of the argument you copy pasted here without bothering to stop and think about for two minutes.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5831 Posts
1 hour ago
#109248
On January 25 2026 21:58 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 20:40 Jankisa wrote:
oBlade is just a busy little fascist boot licker who is bang on the narrative, together with refusing to even comment on the videos and how the US Veteran citizen who had the right to bare arms was disarmed and murdered by 7 fascist pigs for the crime of trying to help a woman because he knows it looks bad.

You know it's poignant how you've refused to comment on the death of Tiger Gutierrez for years, who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant with no driver's license.
Where does the illegal become relevant?

Would the death not matter if it was a drunk driving citizen without a license?
What if it was a drunk driving citizen with a license, would it matter then?

On January 25 2026 21:59 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 21:58 Gorsameth wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 20:40 Jankisa wrote:
oBlade is just a busy little fascist boot licker who is bang on the narrative, together with refusing to even comment on the videos and how the US Veteran citizen who had the right to bare arms was disarmed and murdered by 7 fascist pigs for the crime of trying to help a woman because he knows it looks bad.

You know it's poignant how you've refused to comment on the death of Tiger Gutierrez for years, who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant with no driver's license.
Where does the illegal become relevant?

Would the death not matter if it was a drunk driving citizen without a license?
What if it was a drunk driving citizen with a license, would it matter then?



Ya like what is he even bitching about?


Real slowly for you two.

Man comes to America. Lives in America without permission. Drives without license. Or moves to California and gets free CDL despite knowing no English. Gets drunk. Drives again and kills other man.

Instead: Send man with no permission to be in America out of America, he can't drunk no-license drive and kill other man in America because he's not in America. Other main remains unkilled!

Literally 10 years of Trump and you haven't developed a theory of mind this far, you really believed it was "well some are different colors" the whole fucking time?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7319 Posts
1 hour ago
#109249
On January 25 2026 22:16 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 21:58 Gorsameth wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 20:40 Jankisa wrote:
oBlade is just a busy little fascist boot licker who is bang on the narrative, together with refusing to even comment on the videos and how the US Veteran citizen who had the right to bare arms was disarmed and murdered by 7 fascist pigs for the crime of trying to help a woman because he knows it looks bad.

You know it's poignant how you've refused to comment on the death of Tiger Gutierrez for years, who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant with no driver's license.
Where does the illegal become relevant?

Would the death not matter if it was a drunk driving citizen without a license?
What if it was a drunk driving citizen with a license, would it matter then?

Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 21:59 Sadist wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:58 Gorsameth wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 20:40 Jankisa wrote:
oBlade is just a busy little fascist boot licker who is bang on the narrative, together with refusing to even comment on the videos and how the US Veteran citizen who had the right to bare arms was disarmed and murdered by 7 fascist pigs for the crime of trying to help a woman because he knows it looks bad.

You know it's poignant how you've refused to comment on the death of Tiger Gutierrez for years, who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant with no driver's license.
Where does the illegal become relevant?

Would the death not matter if it was a drunk driving citizen without a license?
What if it was a drunk driving citizen with a license, would it matter then?



Ya like what is he even bitching about?


Real slowly for you two.

Man comes to America. Lives in America without permission. Drives without license. Or moves to California and gets free CDL despite knowing no English. Gets drunk. Drives again and kills other man.

Instead: Send man with no permission to be in America out of America, he can't drunk no-license drive and kill other man in America because he's not in America. Other main remains unkilled!

Literally 10 years of Trump and you haven't developed a theory of mind this far, you really believed it was "well some are different colors" the whole fucking time?



You want to punish a whole group of people because of the crimes of a single person. Him being an illegal alien is not relevant to the crime. That shit happens every day with regular citizens.


How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5831 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-25 13:34:27
1 hour ago
#109250
On January 25 2026 22:22 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 22:16 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:58 Gorsameth wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 20:40 Jankisa wrote:
oBlade is just a busy little fascist boot licker who is bang on the narrative, together with refusing to even comment on the videos and how the US Veteran citizen who had the right to bare arms was disarmed and murdered by 7 fascist pigs for the crime of trying to help a woman because he knows it looks bad.

You know it's poignant how you've refused to comment on the death of Tiger Gutierrez for years, who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant with no driver's license.
Where does the illegal become relevant?

Would the death not matter if it was a drunk driving citizen without a license?
What if it was a drunk driving citizen with a license, would it matter then?

On January 25 2026 21:59 Sadist wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:58 Gorsameth wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 20:40 Jankisa wrote:
oBlade is just a busy little fascist boot licker who is bang on the narrative, together with refusing to even comment on the videos and how the US Veteran citizen who had the right to bare arms was disarmed and murdered by 7 fascist pigs for the crime of trying to help a woman because he knows it looks bad.

You know it's poignant how you've refused to comment on the death of Tiger Gutierrez for years, who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant with no driver's license.
Where does the illegal become relevant?

Would the death not matter if it was a drunk driving citizen without a license?
What if it was a drunk driving citizen with a license, would it matter then?



Ya like what is he even bitching about?


Real slowly for you two.

Man comes to America. Lives in America without permission. Drives without license. Or moves to California and gets free CDL despite knowing no English. Gets drunk. Drives again and kills other man.

Instead: Send man with no permission to be in America out of America, he can't drunk no-license drive and kill other man in America because he's not in America. Other main remains unkilled!

Literally 10 years of Trump and you haven't developed a theory of mind this far, you really believed it was "well some are different colors" the whole fucking time?



You want to punish a whole group of people because of the crimes of a single person. Him being an illegal alien is not relevant to the crime. That shit happens every day with regular citizens.



What single person? The driver of that car was not the one single illegal immigrant to be a criminal.

Sure normal citizens drink and drive every day. Illegal aliens also drink and drive every day. Regular citizens shoot each other every day yet you just told a colleague to go fuck himself about a federal agent doing it. Why's that?

You perhaps believe they should be held to a higher standard? Maybe that you think their entire presence where they are is something that's against the law to begin with? This is exactly what I think about illegal immigrants. Except, let me check the notes here... yep, it says... Federal agents: Can be in the country; illegal immigrants: can't be in the country.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17218 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-25 13:50:54
1 hour ago
#109251
Recently, auto insurance premiums sharply increased in minnesota with a major factor being an increase in reckless driving. in 2026, many of these reckless driving incidents will never be criminally charged. Nonetheless, expect auto insurance premiums to rise sharply in 2026 and 2027. Every Minnesota driver will pay for this epidemic of reckless driving.

After a brief look at a few of these ICE v. Protester videos ... it seems to me all kinds of cars are getting scratched up, dented, vandalized.. etc. Cars mistakenly ID-ed as "federal vehicles" are getting scratched, dented and vandalized. Insurance companies are going to have a field day with this craziness. Good luck to anyone who attends one of these standoffs and expects to make an insurance claim.

Look for auto insurance premiums to rise 50%+ in Minneapolis in 2026 and 2027. The craziness going on now will make great cover for insurance premium gouging.
On January 25 2026 22:00 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 21:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
Here's the facts: Someone disarmed him. Someone said he had a gun. Someone shot him. There's one shot, a pause, and several shots in the video.

how are the officers supposed to magically know the exact # of guns he has on him. 1 gun was removed from his person. does he have another gun? No one knows. You can't expect the ICE officers to be able to instantly assess that number.

To bring it back to the political though: Minnesota government officials instantly declaring the incident to be murder and Trump instantly declaring it legally justified are 2 sides of the same bad coin.


too bad we are back in the stone age and searching suspects has not been invented.

when the "suspect" is already on the ground and 6+ government sponsored thugs - enjoying lackluster training yet immune from any sense and professionalism - seem unable to restrain him properly. particularly one they already pepper sprayed straight to his face.

also the bolded part: fuck. no.

one horrible policy leading to multiple dead persons now, victims observing and being a nuisance...

and that is enough to call it interfering and giving the go ahead to blast them? calling them Terrorists?

each and every death was easily preventable. Republicans enabling the worst law enforcement operations in recent memory, in the US no less already not blessed with even a halfway decent police force to begin with.

and a Capo(Trump and his shitbird posse) cheering it on from his "Truth" platform. the disintegration of civil liberties under the guise of getting rid of "undesireables." happily lying their fake teeth off.

the other calling it out and being rightfully outraged --> coins are worth shit if that is how you measure its worth, unable to call a spade a spade and falling for both-side-ism.

then again crypto is all the rage so it checks out. what a travesty for people not willing or unable to recognize what is what.

sick jokers some of y'all.

nah, the minnesota government officials botched this. Of course, so did Trump.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1089 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-25 13:53:04
1 hour ago
#109252
Fascist logic, because a drunk illegal immigrant accidentally killed someone, for which he received 15 years in prison, we should have to talk about this before commenting on armed government thugs executing a US Veteran and a legal gun carrier in the middle of the street because he tried to help a woman who was shoved and attacked by said thugs. I love how he was also executed because he didn't have his papers on him, how very fash of you!

The first one faced the US justice system, as they should, the best that oBlade here has to offer is that "there should be investigation" while having no time to comment on his favorite people who feed him his talking points, from which he pivoted after he was called out in order to switch to "some guy in NM killed someone while drunk one time".

Dome on buddy, are you still afraid that Palantir's gonna get your profile flagged as "potential dissident" if you ever offer any criticism for the people who created this situation and call people domestic terrorists? I mean, being a coward does come with the territory of being a fascist boot licker.

As Ukrainians often say about Russians, thank god they are stupid, otherwise we'd be in much more trouble.

That's going to be the ultimate unraveling of Trump and his sycophants, just like our buddy oBlade here their main characteristics are ability to gaslight themselves and blindly lap up and repeat propaganda, intelligence was never their strong suit.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7319 Posts
54 minutes ago
#109253
On January 25 2026 22:34 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 22:22 Sadist wrote:
On January 25 2026 22:16 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:58 Gorsameth wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 20:40 Jankisa wrote:
oBlade is just a busy little fascist boot licker who is bang on the narrative, together with refusing to even comment on the videos and how the US Veteran citizen who had the right to bare arms was disarmed and murdered by 7 fascist pigs for the crime of trying to help a woman because he knows it looks bad.

You know it's poignant how you've refused to comment on the death of Tiger Gutierrez for years, who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant with no driver's license.
Where does the illegal become relevant?

Would the death not matter if it was a drunk driving citizen without a license?
What if it was a drunk driving citizen with a license, would it matter then?

On January 25 2026 21:59 Sadist wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:58 Gorsameth wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
On January 25 2026 20:40 Jankisa wrote:
oBlade is just a busy little fascist boot licker who is bang on the narrative, together with refusing to even comment on the videos and how the US Veteran citizen who had the right to bare arms was disarmed and murdered by 7 fascist pigs for the crime of trying to help a woman because he knows it looks bad.

You know it's poignant how you've refused to comment on the death of Tiger Gutierrez for years, who was killed by a drunk driving illegal immigrant with no driver's license.
Where does the illegal become relevant?

Would the death not matter if it was a drunk driving citizen without a license?
What if it was a drunk driving citizen with a license, would it matter then?



Ya like what is he even bitching about?


Real slowly for you two.

Man comes to America. Lives in America without permission. Drives without license. Or moves to California and gets free CDL despite knowing no English. Gets drunk. Drives again and kills other man.

Instead: Send man with no permission to be in America out of America, he can't drunk no-license drive and kill other man in America because he's not in America. Other main remains unkilled!

Literally 10 years of Trump and you haven't developed a theory of mind this far, you really believed it was "well some are different colors" the whole fucking time?



You want to punish a whole group of people because of the crimes of a single person. Him being an illegal alien is not relevant to the crime. That shit happens every day with regular citizens.



What single person? The driver of that car was not the one single illegal immigrant to be a criminal.

Sure normal citizens drink and drive every day. Illegal aliens also drink and drive every day. Regular citizens shoot each other every day yet you just told a colleague to go fuck himself about a federal agent doing it. Why's that?

You perhaps believe they should be held to a higher standard? Maybe that you think their entire presence where they are is something that's against the law to begin with? This is exactly what I think about illegal immigrants. Except, let me check the notes here... yep, it says... Federal agents: Can be in the country; illegal immigrants: can't be in the country.



Jimmy isnt a colleague. Citizens who shoot each other are charged with crimes or at the very least investigated.

Im done interacting with this.

I dont know how this stuff is allowed to continue in this thread. Theres politics and differing opinions and straight out lies and fascism. This is clearly fascism on display and people supporting it in the thread or talking about the price of insurance when a person was just murdered.


I hope you both can change at some point in the future.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States78 Posts
53 minutes ago
#109254
On January 25 2026 22:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Recently, auto insurance premiums sharply increased in minnesota with a major factor being an increase in reckless driving. in 2026, many of these reckless driving incidents will never be criminally charged. Nonetheless, expect auto insurance premiums to rise sharply in 2026 and 2027. Every Minnesota driver will pay for this epidemic of reckless driving.

After a brief look at a few of these ICE v. Protester videos ... it seems to me all kinds of cars are getting scratched up, dented, vandalized.. etc. Cars mistakenly ID-ed as "federal vehicles" are getting scratched, dented and vandalized. Insurance companies are going to have a field day with this craziness. Good luck to anyone who attends one of these standoffs and expects to make an insurance claim.

Look for auto insurance premiums to rise 50%+ in Minneapolis in 2026 and 2027. The craziness going on now will make great cover for insurance premium gouging.
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 22:00 Doublemint wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
Here's the facts: Someone disarmed him. Someone said he had a gun. Someone shot him. There's one shot, a pause, and several shots in the video.

how are the officers supposed to magically know the exact # of guns he has on him. 1 gun was removed from his person. does he have another gun? No one knows. You can't expect the ICE officers to be able to instantly assess that number.

To bring it back to the political though: Minnesota government officials instantly declaring the incident to be murder and Trump instantly declaring it legally justified are 2 sides of the same bad coin.


too bad we are back in the stone age and searching suspects has not been invented.

when the "suspect" is already on the ground and 6+ government sponsored thugs - enjoying lackluster training yet immune from any sense and professionalism - seem unable to restrain him properly. particularly one they already pepper sprayed straight to his face.

also the bolded part: fuck. no.

one horrible policy leading to multiple dead persons now, victims observing and being a nuisance...

and that is enough to call it interfering and giving the go ahead to blast them? calling them Terrorists?

each and every death was easily preventable. Republicans enabling the worst law enforcement operations in recent memory, in the US no less already not blessed with even a halfway decent police force to begin with.

and a Capo(Trump and his shitbird posse) cheering it on from his "Truth" platform. the disintegration of civil liberties under the guise of getting rid of "undesireables." happily lying their fake teeth off.

the other calling it out and being rightfully outraged --> coins are worth shit if that is how you measure its worth, unable to call a spade a spade and falling for both-side-ism.

then again crypto is all the rage so it checks out. what a travesty for people not willing or unable to recognize what is what.

sick jokers some of y'all.

nah, the minnesota government officials botched this. Of course, so did Trump.
In saner times, the hysterics on "executed," "fascist bootlicker," "the ICE officer hit by the car had no reason to fear for his life," "resisting arrest and obstructing federal LEO is fine, the arresting and tackling people resisting arrest is the problem" would be met with detached explanation from a Presidential administration. No, just because your city is a sanctuary city does not mean ICE cannot operate in it. No, just because your cops refuse to help with ICE operations does not mean ICE cannot send many more officers to deploy tear gas and secure the arrestee or scene. Etc etc. All the explanations should be calmly given, and frankly people that call the explainers fascists and bootlickers should have the contrast of their ignorance and mania.

Trump and his appointees can't help themselves. They instantly go to domestic terrorists and conclude the protester or activist was in the wrong simply for showing up armed. All of that is wrong and needlessly wrong. It will just feed the backlash and make everything worse. It looked like a bad shoot, whether it was or not, and deserves dispassionate investigation and an eventual public report of the findings.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5831 Posts
48 minutes ago
#109255
On January 25 2026 22:52 Jankisa wrote:
Fascist logic, because a drunk illegal immigrant accidentally killed someone, for which he received 15 years in prison, we should have to talk about this before commenting on armed government thugs executing a US Veteran and a legal gun carrier in the middle of the street because he tried to help a woman who was shoved and attacked by said thugs.

He wasn't a US Veteran, he was a nurse at the VA.

He was shot by agents of the federal government, which enforces immigration law. It was tragic. When the US government doesn't enforce immigration law and border security, hundreds of thousands of other tragedies happen. That's why we're here to begin with (I say "we" figuratively). That's the connection. I care about both, you pretend to give a shit about one.

On January 25 2026 22:52 Jankisa wrote:
I love how he was also executed because he didn't have his papers on him, how very fash of you!

Not what I said. He was almost certainly shot because someone believed he was brandishing or firing or had fired a gun. Another idea I saw is that whether the first shot was from his gun or not, or the shots all being from an agent or two separate agents therefore the gap, is that when the one guy disarmed him, the sight of his visibly empty holster led someone to think he was going to shoot imminently. Not that you are reading this, but if someone with a clear head sees it, I thought it was an interesting perspective on the dynamic that led to this. The empty holster combined with someone saying "Gun."

The fact that he didn't have his CCW and ID on him under Minnesota law (not federal) makes his carrying activity less legal. This is not indicating that he deserves to be shot, but it's corroborating evidence that he was prone to or had been groomed to idiocy.

On January 25 2026 22:52 Jankisa wrote:
The first one faced the US justice system, as they should, the best that oBlade here has to offer is that "there should be investigation" while having no time to comment on his favorite people who feed him his talking points, from which he pivoted after he was called out in order to switch to "some guy in NM killed someone while drunk one time".

Yeah as a normal person I believe in investigations as the first step of justice.

On January 25 2026 22:52 Jankisa wrote:
Dome on buddy, are you still afraid that Palantir's gonna get your profile flagged as "potential dissident" if you ever offer any criticism for the people who created this situation and call people domestic terrorists? I mean, being a coward does come with the territory of being a fascist boot licker.

I have nothing but criticism for the Darwin Olympians standing and parking in the road blaring whistles and bullhorns at federal agents and calling Republicans domestic terrorists.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7319 Posts
47 minutes ago
#109256
On January 25 2026 23:04 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 22:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Recently, auto insurance premiums sharply increased in minnesota with a major factor being an increase in reckless driving. in 2026, many of these reckless driving incidents will never be criminally charged. Nonetheless, expect auto insurance premiums to rise sharply in 2026 and 2027. Every Minnesota driver will pay for this epidemic of reckless driving.

After a brief look at a few of these ICE v. Protester videos ... it seems to me all kinds of cars are getting scratched up, dented, vandalized.. etc. Cars mistakenly ID-ed as "federal vehicles" are getting scratched, dented and vandalized. Insurance companies are going to have a field day with this craziness. Good luck to anyone who attends one of these standoffs and expects to make an insurance claim.

Look for auto insurance premiums to rise 50%+ in Minneapolis in 2026 and 2027. The craziness going on now will make great cover for insurance premium gouging.
On January 25 2026 22:00 Doublemint wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
Here's the facts: Someone disarmed him. Someone said he had a gun. Someone shot him. There's one shot, a pause, and several shots in the video.

how are the officers supposed to magically know the exact # of guns he has on him. 1 gun was removed from his person. does he have another gun? No one knows. You can't expect the ICE officers to be able to instantly assess that number.

To bring it back to the political though: Minnesota government officials instantly declaring the incident to be murder and Trump instantly declaring it legally justified are 2 sides of the same bad coin.


too bad we are back in the stone age and searching suspects has not been invented.

when the "suspect" is already on the ground and 6+ government sponsored thugs - enjoying lackluster training yet immune from any sense and professionalism - seem unable to restrain him properly. particularly one they already pepper sprayed straight to his face.

also the bolded part: fuck. no.

one horrible policy leading to multiple dead persons now, victims observing and being a nuisance...

and that is enough to call it interfering and giving the go ahead to blast them? calling them Terrorists?

each and every death was easily preventable. Republicans enabling the worst law enforcement operations in recent memory, in the US no less already not blessed with even a halfway decent police force to begin with.

and a Capo(Trump and his shitbird posse) cheering it on from his "Truth" platform. the disintegration of civil liberties under the guise of getting rid of "undesireables." happily lying their fake teeth off.

the other calling it out and being rightfully outraged --> coins are worth shit if that is how you measure its worth, unable to call a spade a spade and falling for both-side-ism.

then again crypto is all the rage so it checks out. what a travesty for people not willing or unable to recognize what is what.

sick jokers some of y'all.

nah, the minnesota government officials botched this. Of course, so did Trump.
In saner times, the hysterics on "executed," "fascist bootlicker," "the ICE officer hit by the car had no reason to fear for his life," "resisting arrest and obstructing federal LEO is fine, the arresting and tackling people resisting arrest is the problem" would be met with detached explanation from a Presidential administration. No, just because your city is a sanctuary city does not mean ICE cannot operate in it. No, just because your cops refuse to help with ICE operations does not mean ICE cannot send many more officers to deploy tear gas and secure the arrestee or scene. Etc etc. All the explanations should be calmly given, and frankly people that call the explainers fascists and bootlickers should have the contrast of their ignorance and mania.

Trump and his appointees can't help themselves. They instantly go to domestic terrorists and conclude the protester or activist was in the wrong simply for showing up armed. All of that is wrong and needlessly wrong. It will just feed the backlash and make everything worse. It looked like a bad shoot, whether it was or not, and deserves dispassionate investigation and an eventual public report of the findings
.




Why do you think they do this? Its the same response when the admin is asked about anything. Its embarassing.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8699 Posts
43 minutes ago
#109257
On January 25 2026 22:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Recently, auto insurance premiums sharply increased in minnesota with a major factor being an increase in reckless driving. in 2026, many of these reckless driving incidents will never be criminally charged. Nonetheless, expect auto insurance premiums to rise sharply in 2026 and 2027. Every Minnesota driver will pay for this epidemic of reckless driving.

After a brief look at a few of these ICE v. Protester videos ... it seems to me all kinds of cars are getting scratched up, dented, vandalized.. etc. Cars mistakenly ID-ed as "federal vehicles" are getting scratched, dented and vandalized. Insurance companies are going to have a field day with this craziness. Good luck to anyone who attends one of these standoffs and expects to make an insurance claim.

Look for auto insurance premiums to rise 50%+ in Minneapolis in 2026 and 2027. The craziness going on now will make great cover for insurance premium gouging.
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2026 22:00 Doublemint wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 25 2026 21:22 oBlade wrote:
Here's the facts: Someone disarmed him. Someone said he had a gun. Someone shot him. There's one shot, a pause, and several shots in the video.

how are the officers supposed to magically know the exact # of guns he has on him. 1 gun was removed from his person. does he have another gun? No one knows. You can't expect the ICE officers to be able to instantly assess that number.

To bring it back to the political though: Minnesota government officials instantly declaring the incident to be murder and Trump instantly declaring it legally justified are 2 sides of the same bad coin.


too bad we are back in the stone age and searching suspects has not been invented.

when the "suspect" is already on the ground and 6+ government sponsored thugs - enjoying lackluster training yet immune from any sense and professionalism - seem unable to restrain him properly. particularly one they already pepper sprayed straight to his face.

also the bolded part: fuck. no.

one horrible policy leading to multiple dead persons now, victims observing and being a nuisance...

and that is enough to call it interfering and giving the go ahead to blast them? calling them Terrorists?

each and every death was easily preventable. Republicans enabling the worst law enforcement operations in recent memory, in the US no less already not blessed with even a halfway decent police force to begin with.

and a Capo(Trump and his shitbird posse) cheering it on from his "Truth" platform. the disintegration of civil liberties under the guise of getting rid of "undesireables." happily lying their fake teeth off.

the other calling it out and being rightfully outraged --> coins are worth shit if that is how you measure its worth, unable to call a spade a spade and falling for both-side-ism.

then again crypto is all the rage so it checks out. what a travesty for people not willing or unable to recognize what is what.

sick jokers some of y'all.

nah, the minnesota government officials botched this. Of course, so did Trump.


how did MN botch anything here?

no one called ICE to invade with 3000 men? businesses are grinding to a halt, people are scared to walk outside - and those who brave their fears to document get harassed and shot dead purely out of spite/because reasons? based on imaginary rules of engagement of the most unprofessional but best funded arm of law enforcement?

who gives a shit about insurance when people are dying and fundamental rights are ignored?


Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17218 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-25 14:27:59
39 minutes ago
#109258
the Minneapolis mayor and Minnesota governor need to wait until the autopsies are done before shooting their mouths off. In a proper comprehensive criminal investigation video is not enough. It never has been enough.
On January 25 2026 23:15 Doublemint wrote:
who gives a shit about insurance when people are dying and fundamental rights are ignored?

Minnesota is not Iran. They are living in a state where the Federal and Municipal governments are not co operating. This is a well known fact for a very long time. So, you know, heading into an event that will obstruct Federal Law Enforcement and no local police around... you know its trouble. These people are heading straight into the eye of a storm and then crying when they get wet.

Also, everyone will be whining about auto insurance in Minneapolis in about six months. Let's pay attention to outcomes here. Let's observe the Minneapolis newscasts in July and August. Let's see how much whining there is by average people about high auto insurance costs and how it is wrecking the life of the average working person. It'll be all over the news. I predict Minnesota insurers will introduce some new stripped down Insurance product that covers nothing but liability. And, I mean even more stripped down than the current $172/month stripped down product they have now. Its gonna be the wild west dawg.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1402 Posts
19 minutes ago
#109259
Here is a quote that got missed inside all of the stupid shit wrote defending this.

Minneapolis mayor went on TV to explain Drumpf was invading and occupying his city. Absolute inflammatory garbage designed to stir up powder kegs and cause more people to become corpses.


Imagine our biggest Trump fan being upset about someone who spews inflammatory garbage….

oBlade, jjr are not serious people. They are like GH and have predetermined conclusions the need every world Event, big or small to fit it. So they ignore or change whatever facts are needed to make sure it does.

If it helps you in your daily life to blow off some steam realizing that the people who hold those opinions are as ignorant as you thought. By all means continue. But do not hope or try to convince them of actual reality. They are not interested in that.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7319 Posts
16 minutes ago
#109260
Lmao at waiting for autopsies when people where shot on camera. Do you think they died from something other than gunshot wounds?

Listen to yourself.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
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