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On December 04 2024 00:41 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2024 17:42 EEk1TwEEk wrote:On December 03 2024 17:27 Velr wrote:
The US is basically just lending/selling old, no longer state of the art, weapons to Ukraine. It's even prohibiting Ukraine to use these weapons to their full potential.
Why is Russia still continuing this war? It has proven way more costly than it should and on top of it is an absolute embarassment for it's military and it's leadership. Because we don't want our people to be bombed, which happened from 2014 to 2022. We don't want american bases in Ukraine with missiles pointed at our cities, we don't want parades of the nazis in Ukraine. And what embarassement for leadership and military are you talking about? We are fighting against Nato, still winning, taking more territories from the nazi regime. No one was getting bombed in 2021. Look up the civilian casualties per year. They peaked in 2014 during the Russian invasion of the Donbas and were single digits per year by 2019. The idea that there was a war there which Russia needed to intervene to stop is simply false. The Donbas was at peace in 2013, Russia broke that peace. It was at peace in 2021, Russia again broke that peace. If Russian speaking Ukrainian civilians are dying it is because of Russia. They were not before the invasion.
It's the same russian parroting of propaganda I have heard wordy for word from other russians since 2014. It's 15 years worth of state propaganda.
It's literal word for word what I got in personal talks, emails and via various TV-Interviews with russians
Propaganda states that Ukraine would be/would have been engaged in:
- shelling russian civilians (bombs on our rooms, oh the children that died.. somewhere.. don't know.. but a brother of a friend had a dog who heard the story !)
- shelling russian minorities within urkraine (They all wanted to just live, but the nazis came and killed them in the night, don't know where and when.. but the cat of my sister's coworker saw it on TV!)
- mistreating russian minorities on crimea/donbas/luhansk (That's why the "green men" had to land there and free Crimea, which always belonged to russia, check the history !)
- developing ABC-Weapons
Addendum:
- NATO is a threat, and wants to take moscow! As all western leaders always wanted, from Napoleon to Hitler! And Poland attacking Russia!
- Ukraine has developed a geneticly altered pidgeon that can spread a disease that kills only russians!
It's just a boatload of incoherent bullshit.
As long als oligarchs and russian puppets had a tight grip on ukraine, the main conflict was about the gas pipelines and payments. Basicly prime-oligarchs rustling their jimmies about the sub-prime ukrainian oligarchs.
Putin wants to spread Ruski Mir - the idea of 99% of population being fed some false sense of pride, with an overwhelming sense of inability to fight the system... because of police brutality, propaganda and fear.
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Pre-existing condition I think, he was a CEO of a health insurance company.
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Honestly my first impression was "hm, surprised this doesn't happen more often".
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He was the CEO of United Health Care, one of the ones a lot of people have a lot of good horror stories of, so in honor of this truly heartwrenching and sad occasion, I'm going to link one of those stories,
https://www.propublica.org/article/unitedhealth-healthcare-insurance-denial-ulcerative-colitis
When United refused to pay for McNaughton's treatment for that reason, his family did something unusual. They fought back with a lawsuit, which uncovered a trove of materials, including internal emails and tape-recorded exchanges among company employees. Those records offer an extraordinary behind-the-scenes look at how one of America's leading health care insurers relentlessly fought to reduce spending on care, even as its profits rose to record levels.
As United reviewed McNaughton’s treatment, he and his family were often in the dark about what was happening or their rights. Meanwhile, United employees misrepresented critical findings and ignored warnings from doctors about the risks of altering McNaughton’s drug plan.
At one point, court records show, United inaccurately reported to Penn State and the family that McNaughton’s doctor had agreed to lower the doses of his medication. Another time, a doctor paid by United concluded that denying payments for McNaughton’s treatment could put his health at risk, but the company buried his report and did not consider its findings. The insurer did, however, consider a report submitted by a company doctor who rubber-stamped the recommendation of a United nurse to reject paying for the treatment.
I hope everyone will join me in this dark time and offer our thoughts and prayers to UHC, and their poor chief executive officer, they were too good, too innocent, too pure for our world.
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Northern Ireland27478 Posts
How many folks have died as a result of insurance fuckery over the years? Never mind the fully legitimate side of things where they don’t have to fudge things to leave folks to die.
Can’t say it moves my emotional needle all that much. Perhaps if there was some atypical executive who wanted to disrupt the system and help people rather than gouge I’d consider that a great pity.
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On December 05 2024 02:40 Gorsameth wrote:
Honestly my first impression was "hm, surprised this doesn't happen more often".
You never know what the next viral trend could be.
Going to be fascinating to study who replaces them and if it has any impact on their business practices.
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On December 05 2024 02:56 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2024 02:40 Gorsameth wrote:
Honestly my first impression was "hm, surprised this doesn't happen more often". You never know what the next viral trend could be. Going to be fascinating to study who replaces them and if it has any impact on their business practices.
Why study what we already know the answer to, lmao
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Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On December 05 2024 02:40 Gorsameth wrote:
Honestly my first impression was "hm, surprised this doesn't happen more often".
Yeah as grim as it is I’ve long wondered why disaffected shooter types tend to shoot regular folks far more than ever targeting the sources of their ills
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The US has two parties: One vows to steal for the poor, and the other succeeds in stealing for the rich.
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Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On December 05 2024 03:12 Vivax wrote:
The US has two parties: One vows to steal for the poor, and the other succeeds in stealing for the rich.
Steal what for the poor?
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On December 05 2024 03:16 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2024 03:12 Vivax wrote:
The US has two parties: One vows to steal for the poor, and the other succeeds in stealing for the rich. Steal what for the poor?
Legally earned capital.
That just becomes a videogame above a certain threshold.
Can‘t even blame hedonists nowadays.
Maybe ever
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United States44448 Posts
On December 05 2024 03:24 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2024 03:16 WombaT wrote:On December 05 2024 03:12 Vivax wrote:
The US has two parties: One vows to steal for the poor, and the other succeeds in stealing for the rich. Steal what for the poor? Legally earned capital. That just becomes a videogame above a certain threshold. Can‘t even blame hedonists nowadays. Maybe ever
The poor don’t have shit to steal in the first place. It’s why they don’t pay net taxes, there’s not enough there to tax.
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As someone who's football club was named for united health by its former owner, not surprised if this guy is just the first. They get "I'm going to have a giant loon made by the kelpies sculptor" rich by leveraging the death and suffering of people for profit.
They're the people who's houses are seized and then turned into a museum untouched for their art collection in exchange for not murdering them.
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On December 05 2024 02:40 Gorsameth wrote:
Honestly my first impression was "hm, surprised this doesn't happen more often".
I guess there is a list of things that were tried to make people care for each other instead of exploiting the weakest for short term profit.
- tribalism
- religion
- patriotism/sense of community
- morale and ethics
- the law
But I guess we are down to:
- not getting shot for beeing a puppet for the ultra wealthy stakeholders that sell "months to live" for profit by an angry patient.
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On December 05 2024 05:12 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2024 03:24 Vivax wrote:On December 05 2024 03:16 WombaT wrote:On December 05 2024 03:12 Vivax wrote:
The US has two parties: One vows to steal for the poor, and the other succeeds in stealing for the rich. Steal what for the poor? Legally earned capital. That just becomes a videogame above a certain threshold. Can‘t even blame hedonists nowadays. Maybe ever The poor don’t have shit to steal in the first place. It’s why they don’t pay net taxes, there’s not enough there to tax.
Not working on progressive tax models and use the money to lower the cost of living of low income workers is what I see as indirect theft.
It‘s the issue with the mechanisms that make money multiply itself by itself like investments. Way more effective when you already have a lot.
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One thing the widespread nonpartisan reaction ranging from indifference to celebration of the CEO of a health insurance company being assassinated brings into focus for me is just how absolutely unbelievably stupid/malicious Democrats were not to have a universal healthcare plan at the center of their campaign.
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Trump's tariff threat continues to pay dividends as Mexico and Canada are now squabbling with each other. Trump can now play the role of Monty Hall and play "Let's Make A Deal" with both countries.
https://financialpost.com/news/economy/trump-threatens-canada-mexico-go-own-way
Sheinbaum then dug deeper, adding that Canada “could only wish they had the cultural riches Mexico has”, pointing out her country has civilizations dating back thousands of years.
As I've said before, Canada is more of an economic zone than it is a country.
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On December 05 2024 16:10 GreenHorizons wrote:
One thing the widespread nonpartisan reaction ranging from indifference to celebration of the CEO of a health insurance company being assassinated brings into focus for me is just how absolutely unbelievably stupid/malicious Democrats were not to have a universal healthcare plan at the center of their campaign.
Promise of a Universal Healthcare Plan immediately creates lots of talk about the LBGT community and gender affirming care. It'd be non stop talk about sex change surgeries for 10 year olds. The next item will be spending any amount of government money possible to make sure 0 gay men ever die from AIDS. PrEP ranges from $250/month to $2000/month.
The Demos have painted themselves into a corner on the government paid healthcare front.
https://19thnews.org/2024/10/harris-gender-affirming-care-incarcerated-people-fact-check/
“Every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access,” Harris said in the clip. Later in the ad, which was not shown by Baier, the narrator said, “Even the liberal media was shocked Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners and illegal aliens.”
The Trump campaign released the ad September 20 — 10 days after Trump made a similar claim during his September 10 debate with Harris, when he said she “wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.” PolitiFact rated that Mostly True.
The central claim stems from statements Harris made during her 2019 Democratic presidential primary run in support of gender-affirming care access, including for federal detainees.
Harris has not campaigned on this issue in 2024 — and she and her campaign have said little about it in response to reporters’ questions about Trump’s claims.
Had Harris opened up the Pandora's Box of Government sponsored health care she woulda gotten savaged. It was a smart move by her to avoid the entire topic.
In conclusion: I do not think the Dems were malicious/stupid in not making Universal Healthcare a centrepiece of their campaign.
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On December 05 2024 11:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2024 05:12 KwarK wrote:On December 05 2024 03:24 Vivax wrote:On December 05 2024 03:16 WombaT wrote:On December 05 2024 03:12 Vivax wrote:
The US has two parties: One vows to steal for the poor, and the other succeeds in stealing for the rich. Steal what for the poor? Legally earned capital. That just becomes a videogame above a certain threshold. Can‘t even blame hedonists nowadays. Maybe ever The poor don’t have shit to steal in the first place. It’s why they don’t pay net taxes, there’s not enough there to tax. Not working on progressive tax models and use the money to lower the cost of living of low income workers is what I see as indirect theft. It‘s the issue with the mechanisms that make money multiply itself by itself like investments. Way more effective when you already have a lot.
Forcing a legal tender that gets infinitely devalued at a rate that only the gov and central bank have control of, is the crime.
Doesn't help that the cause of whole wealth inequality is precisely because there's a rogue monetary system and democrats blaming it on bunch of other stuff is just disgusting to me. (Well it's happening everywhere tbh)
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