EPTAnyone but Harris please. This will look extra terrible to have her shoe horned into the office now without a proper primary.
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
Anyone but Harris please. This will look extra terrible to have her shoe horned into the office now without a proper primary. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46514 Posts
On July 22 2024 03:55 Jockmcplop wrote: If the Democrats run Harris they deserve to lose. Are they really that out of touch with the populace? Given Biden's full-throated endorsement of Harris as the presumptive Democratic nominee, I think it's safe to say that it's going to be Harris vs. Trump. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1098 Posts
But our Democrat senators, representatives, and big donors still haven’t learned the lesson. They listened to the twitter loudmouths (being amplified by Musk) and put pressure on Biden to step down. He fell for it. Shame on him. I guess we get what we deserve. We’re stupid. As I’ve heard on this forum, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46514 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:05 Vindicare605 wrote: The right thing to do at the absolute worst time. Ugh. Anyone but Harris please. This will look extra terrible to have her shoe horned into the office now without a proper primary. On July 22 2024 03:55 Jockmcplop wrote: If the Democrats run Harris they deserve to lose. Are they really that out of touch with the populace? Given Biden's full-throated endorsement of Harris as the presumptive Democratic nominee, I think it's safe to say that it's going to be Harris vs. Trump. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46514 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:05 RenSC2 wrote: Cancel culture strikes again. You would think people would learn from past mistakes and stop repeating them. Just because loudmouth idiots tell you to step aside does not mean you actually have to step aside. But our Democrat senators, representatives, and big donors still haven’t learned the lesson. They listened to the twitter loudmouths (being amplified by Musk) and put pressure on Biden to step down. He fell for it. Shame on him. I guess we get what we deserve. We’re stupid. As I’ve heard on this forum, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. This is definitely not cancel culture. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24387 Posts
Poll: Democrats Should... You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Fall in line behind Harris Poll: If there is a contest the nominee should be... You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ K. Harris | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9069 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:08 GreenHorizons wrote: Poll: Democrats Should... You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Fall in line behind Harris Poll: If there is a contest the nominee should be... You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ K. Harris You can take off Pritzker, Obama, and Clinton. That's not going to happen at all. The rest...coin flips. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46514 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
9069 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46514 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:15 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: I'd put my bet on Newsom but I don't follow his politics very much. It would be his best step at getting closer to the presidency that he wants. That would double-up California support though (Harris and Newsom), which isn't particularly helpful. I think someone from a swing state would poll better. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9069 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: That would double-up California support though (Harris and Newsom), which isn't particularly helpful. I think someone from a swing state would poll better. But you'd get the support Newsom has across the country that Harris doesn't, no? Only person I could think of would be Whitmer but I don't see that ticket going anywhere. | ||
KwarK
United States44373 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:00 GreenHorizons wrote: That's probably one reason they don't want an actually open primary No. If Biden is too old then Bernie is not the answer. | ||
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KwarK
United States44373 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:08 GreenHorizons wrote: Poll: Democrats Should... You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ Fall in line behind Harris Poll: If there is a contest the nominee should be... You must be logged in to vote in this poll. ☐ K. Harris Someone else: T Swifty. She's got what it takes to defeat Trump head to head. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:27 KwarK wrote: Someone else: T Swifty. She's got what it takes to defeat Trump head to head. I've been saying this elsewhere. I got told that because she's a woman she would lose. Its a pretty strong argument tbh. My argument was she's the anti-Trump. More famous. More rich. Hotter. Imagine how angry he'd get lol "Trump needed his family's and the government's money to become successful and still ended up in debt. I did it myself and I'm richer and more successful." | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46514 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:25 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: But you'd get the support Newsom has across the country that Harris doesn't, no? Only person I could think of would be Whitmer but I don't see that ticket going anywhere. I think PA's governor, Josh Shapiro, is head-and-shoulders above the rest in terms of maximizing the chance of Harris beating Trump. He locks up PA, meaning that we only need to win MI and WI. He's also a very articulate "young" white/Jewish/white-passing man, which is extremely important in this moment. Nobody guarantees a win, but I think Harris-Shapiro is the best bet we've got. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
In this timeline, what would the matchup be in Novermber from the GOP side? I don't see anyone with the same appeal as Trump, just a lot of imitations. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22661 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:00 GreenHorizons wrote: He is in a better state then Biden but hes 82 ffs.That's probably one reason they don't want an actually open primary Leave the geriatrics at home. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I think PA's governor, Josh Shapiro, is head-and-shoulders above the rest in terms of maximizing the chance of Harris beating Trump. He locks up PA, meaning that we only need to win MI and WI. He's also a very articulate "young" white/Jewish/white-passing man, which is extremely important in this moment. Nobody guarantees a win, but I think Harris-Shapiro is the best bet we've got. Guarantees a win? If Harris runs Trump wouldn't even need to be seen in public between now and the election to win by an absolute mile. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22661 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Both President and VP candidate from the same state is an issue because electors can't vote for both.That would double-up California support though (Harris and Newsom), which isn't particularly helpful. I think someone from a swing state would poll better. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1098 Posts
On July 22 2024 04:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: This is definitely not cancel culture. What separates this from cancel culture? Public pressure campaign to force someone out of a position that they have obtained. Biden crushed the primaries. By all rights, the dem nomination is his. It’s only the public pressure from a very vocal minority that has spooked the sponsors (donors) that is forcing Biden out. | ||
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