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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15644 Posts
November 14 2022 18:39 GMT
#76381
Even just judge flooding is fine and very productive. Just spam judges 24/7.
Kyadytim
Profile Joined March 2009
United States886 Posts
November 14 2022 20:48 GMT
#76382
On November 15 2022 03:39 Mohdoo wrote:
Even just judge flooding is fine and very productive. Just spam judges 24/7.
Reading this on an RTS forum really hits differently.
Having zero judicial vacancies by the end of Biden's term would be a good step forward.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44173 Posts
November 14 2022 23:00 GMT
#76383
On November 15 2022 05:48 Kyadytim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2022 03:39 Mohdoo wrote:
Even just judge flooding is fine and very productive. Just spam judges 24/7.
Reading this on an RTS forum really hits differently.
Having zero judicial vacancies by the end of Biden's term would be a good step forward.


Why is this not a bigger priority for presidents? Why don't they fill all the seats they possibly can? Can the judicial appointments be blocked or something?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Kyadytim
Profile Joined March 2009
United States886 Posts
November 14 2022 23:36 GMT
#76384
On November 15 2022 08:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2022 05:48 Kyadytim wrote:
On November 15 2022 03:39 Mohdoo wrote:
Even just judge flooding is fine and very productive. Just spam judges 24/7.
Reading this on an RTS forum really hits differently.
Having zero judicial vacancies by the end of Biden's term would be a good step forward.


Why is this not a bigger priority for presidents? Why don't they fill all the seats they possibly can? Can the judicial appointments be blocked or something?
There have been a number of ways for the minority party to block or slow down the process. The filibuster has been done away with, but there's still opportunities for delay in the judiciary committee and I think after the nominee has been approved by the committee.

To some extent, these delays aren't just waiting periods, but actually take up time, and the people involved only have so much time to spend on judicial nominations.

Biden has nominated around 140 justices. I have no idea how many hours hearings can be extended to for maximum delay, but if each one is held up with 4 hours of hearings in committee and 4 hours in the general Senate, that's 140 eight hour days of hearings, which I'd say is at least 1/4 of the entire time the members of the house judiciary committee have actually been working since Biden's inauguration.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
November 15 2022 03:13 GMT
#76385
Arizona's next governor will be Katie Hobbs, a Democrat. This is a race I've been watching keenly because Kari Lake's a nutter who made election denial a key part of her campaign. Hobbs is also reported to have ran a poor campaign, refused to debate Lake, and was trailing in polls, which makes it even funnier she won.

Arizona is getting bluer, and it doesn't hurt when the Arizona GOP decides to attack an institution like McCain's family.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 15 2022 03:39 GMT
#76386
I did not expect those two Arizona House races to go red. Shit
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
November 15 2022 04:23 GMT
#76387
More or less safe to call the House for the Republicans now. Might take until California counts the rest of their votes for it to be official but the overall picture is pretty clear at this point.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
November 15 2022 05:02 GMT
#76388
Yeah it's pretty safe to call it. The last few races in the House are going the way I expected them to, aside from a couple races going differently than I predicted. It looks like the Democrats are going to try and push the issue with the debt ceiling during the lame duck period and there's also going to be a vote to codify same-sex marriage. We can pretty much expect nothing but judge appointments until 2024.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 15 2022 05:44 GMT
#76389
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7217 Posts
November 15 2022 13:02 GMT
#76390
On November 15 2022 14:44 JimmiC wrote:
I was quite surprised by the sheer number of election deniers that lost, then even even more surprised by how normal they acted after the loss. Progress I think, im more hopeful it will still be a place worth traveling too in the future.

The Trump story is still the most intetesting though. Basically no one wanys to see him run. But that would be admitting defeat. Im still leaning towards him running. But if not, coldly and frequently laying into ron de"everchanging nick name". Might be some months of rep on rep violence.



Ideal world is he runs, loses the primary, runs 3rd party and splits the republican vote.


If he loses the primary he will 100% run 3rd party to try to fuck with republicans.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44173 Posts
November 15 2022 15:35 GMT
#76391
On November 15 2022 22:02 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2022 14:44 JimmiC wrote:
I was quite surprised by the sheer number of election deniers that lost, then even even more surprised by how normal they acted after the loss. Progress I think, im more hopeful it will still be a place worth traveling too in the future.

The Trump story is still the most intetesting though. Basically no one wanys to see him run. But that would be admitting defeat. Im still leaning towards him running. But if not, coldly and frequently laying into ron de"everchanging nick name". Might be some months of rep on rep violence.



Ideal world is he runs, loses the primary, runs 3rd party and splits the republican vote.


If he loses the primary he will 100% run 3rd party to try to fuck with republicans.


I would love for that to be true, but him running 3rd party would be an auto-loss for him in the general election, right after his hypothetical primary loss to the Republican nominee, and I'm not sure if his fragile ego can take two losses in such quick succession. Even Trump would know that he can't win the presidential election as a 3rd party candidate, and I don't know if him fucking over Republicans while losing again would be a net good or a net bad for his ego.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42518 Posts
November 15 2022 16:03 GMT
#76392
If he runs 3rd party he can fundraise. He won’t need to spend on media either, he’ll get more free coverage than he can use. The man loves fundraising and the morons love giving him money.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
November 15 2022 16:35 GMT
#76393
My political wet dream is he announces he's forming a new party and running for president under that party, and people like MTG and Hawley immediately flip to that party and we watch the right burn itself to the ground. It's not gonna happen but god damn that would be sweet.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-15 16:56:47
November 15 2022 16:56 GMT
#76394
Watching as the Right starts to tear itself apart will indeed be very satisfying. Absolutely everyone else knew they fucked up when they gleefully got in line behind Trump, and now they're finally catching on themselves. Except now, people will see their absolute lack of conviction in gear-changing both times.

As the invertebrate Lindsey Graham said, they will be destroyed for joining Trump, and they will deserve it.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
November 15 2022 19:33 GMT
#76395
Republicans are one seat away from taking the House. The small possibility of Democrats holding the House is all but gone now. When that happens, the next two years will likely be a combination of judicial appointments, negotiating the slim margin for bipartisan legislation, but more likely just bullshit investigations being launched by Republicans as they try to impeach Biden for having a pulse. Fun, fun stuff.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
November 15 2022 21:48 GMT
#76396
Senator Rick Scott from Florida is going to challenge McConnell for Senate Minority Leader

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/15/senate-gop-leader-mitch-mcconnell-rick-scott
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44173 Posts
November 15 2022 22:11 GMT
#76397
On November 16 2022 06:48 StasisField wrote:
Senator Rick Scott from Florida is going to challenge McConnell for Senate Minority Leader

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/15/senate-gop-leader-mitch-mcconnell-rick-scott


To be fair, Mitch McConnell is really, really old... perhaps his influence is fading... so it might be good for Republicans to replace him with someone who's a young, energetic <checks notes> almost-seventy-year-old.

No idea what the impact of this challenge will actually be, but I assume that Republicans blaming each other for the poor midterm results is probably a good thing for Democrats.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-15 22:27:48
November 15 2022 22:23 GMT
#76398
Republicans are also very eager to blame Trump for their poor performance, as if their shitty policies from the Trump era that they voted for, and striking down Roe, had nothing to do with it. If there was one thing from this midterm that was a breath of fresh fucking air, it was the fact that people actually seemed to care about the issues and vote on them accordingly, rather than just say party in power = bad.

Naw, it ain't because Trump picked bad candidates all of a sudden. It's because he's always been a stinking pile of shit who knew the smell of his kind better than anything else, and Republicans were too devoid of principle to do anything but get in line for the sake of power.

It's like any time a boomer looks at how millennials and gen Z have essentially 0 financial freedom and treat it like some mystery, like the shitty selfish policies they've been driving their whole lives had nothing to do with it.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 15 2022 22:28 GMT
#76399
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
November 15 2022 22:30 GMT
#76400
I look forward to Republicans continuing to assume that all of their success in Florida will translate to the rest of the country with no issues. Like Florida just happened to be a meme for no particular reason.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
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