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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 08 2022 19:58 GMT
#70721
On March 09 2022 04:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Silver lining: There's no way Biden is resuming student loans during all this

QE-infinity is probably going to continue as well. Inflation is going to just keep on going.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-08 20:05:32
March 08 2022 20:01 GMT
#70722
I look forward to wages definitely keeping up with inflation! And I look forward to our government doing its best to make sure the minimum wage is maintained at a level that provides people the ability to live!

What I’d give to have the minimum wage be retroactively adjusted for inflation and tied to inflation from here on out. We’re well past the point of 15 being enough, lol.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
March 08 2022 20:02 GMT
#70723
On March 09 2022 05:01 Zambrah wrote:
I look forward to wages definitely keeping up with inflation

Haha.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 08 2022 20:23 GMT
#70724
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
March 08 2022 20:45 GMT
#70725
On March 09 2022 05:23 JimmiC wrote:
What is the excuse for a piece of garbage like this making it through the primary? I mean he does say the election is stolen, but can't you find better people who can repeat that nonsense, or is this really the best?

Show nested quote +
“Having three daughters, I tell my daughters, ‘Well, if rape is inevitable, you should just lie back and enjoy it,’” Regan said roughly 10 minutes into the broadcast. “That’s not how we roll, that’s not how we won this election.”




https://ca.yahoo.com/news/michigan-gop-candidate-tells-daughters-190734197.html




I dont understand the quote. It sounds like hes saying thats not what to do.


The guy is clearly a nut (Russia bombing Ukraine to knock out bioweapons labs run by Fauci?) But the reporting is confusing.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 08 2022 20:47 GMT
#70726
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-08 20:56:31
March 08 2022 20:56 GMT
#70727
On March 09 2022 04:58 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2022 04:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Silver lining: There's no way Biden is resuming student loans during all this

QE-infinity is probably going to continue as well. Inflation is going to just keep on going.

Add the two together and you essentially incidentally forgive student loans lol. Eventually a car loan for a new Honda Civic will be the same as my student loan
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 08 2022 21:02 GMT
#70728
Won't be long before the price to fill up said Civic with a tank of gas is equal to the outstanding balance of my student loans at this rate.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
March 08 2022 21:48 GMT
#70729
On March 09 2022 04:18 farvacola wrote:
Just in case there's still confusion on the point of whether January 6 rioters were armed, the first rioter taken to trial was found guilty on all five counts of the indictment, two of which involved his carrying a firearm.

In the first Jan. 6 trial, a jury found Capitol riot defendant Guy Reffitt guilty


It's true that Capitol rioters broke the law. It has been proven in court.
It's also quite likely that they would not have done that it Trump had not told them to "go to the Capitol peacefully".
That said, whether by design or accident, the words Trump uttered give him plausible deniability about whether he incited the riot, or whether the protestors just got out of control once they got there, without Trump's direction.
It is a fundamental principle that guilt must be proven beyond reasonable doubt in a courtroom and Trump left himself more than enough doubt that I don't think he would ever be found guilty for what he did on Jan 6.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
March 08 2022 22:26 GMT
#70730
On March 09 2022 05:47 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2022 05:45 Sadist wrote:
On March 09 2022 05:23 JimmiC wrote:
What is the excuse for a piece of garbage like this making it through the primary? I mean he does say the election is stolen, but can't you find better people who can repeat that nonsense, or is this really the best?

“Having three daughters, I tell my daughters, ‘Well, if rape is inevitable, you should just lie back and enjoy it,’” Regan said roughly 10 minutes into the broadcast. “That’s not how we roll, that’s not how we won this election.”




https://ca.yahoo.com/news/michigan-gop-candidate-tells-daughters-190734197.html




I dont understand the quote. It sounds like hes saying thats not what to do.


The guy is clearly a nut (Russia bombing Ukraine to knock out bioweapons labs run by Fauci?) But the reporting is confusing.


He is telling them that if they are going to be raped and can not get out of it they should just lay back and enjoy it. It is once of the worst quotes ever by anyone, let a lone someone currently running for office.


That was clearly said in jest to demonstrate the futility and ridiculousness of just lying down and taking the hits in an election.
Was it wise to utter something that could be easily taken out of context? Maybe. But then he has another excuse to blame the "fake news legacy media".
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27148 Posts
March 08 2022 23:19 GMT
#70731
If the context is a joking, rather grotesque analogy to draw parallels of how ridiculous taking another course of action, the thing you’re drawing the analogy for should probably not be a completely untrue allegation of electoral fraud.

Where best case scenario is not making a terrible analogy to illustrate a valid point, and a middle ground where one makes a terrible analogy to illustrate a valid point, which I am certainly guilty of haha, this is hitting 0/2

I’m not even outraged tbh, bar a simmering disdain I just sort of shrug my shoulders at this point.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-08 23:33:02
March 08 2022 23:32 GMT
#70732
Edit: Already posted link just imagine this is in reply to farva.

Interesting timing on this from what was said yesterday. The first Federal trial of Jan 6ers, Guilty on all counts including carrying a pistol into the capitol. Notably also as a case where one was turned in by a relative and providing a pretty solid case for the next 500 or so cases it says are behind it. Probably a pretty heavy outlier for all the cases and I don't think that he'll get the 20 years max but certainly the start of a lot of court cases for these terrorists.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27148 Posts
March 08 2022 23:50 GMT
#70733
On March 09 2022 08:32 Sermokala wrote:
Edit: Already posted link just imagine this is in reply to farva.

Interesting timing on this from what was said yesterday. The first Federal trial of Jan 6ers, Guilty on all counts including carrying a pistol into the capitol. Notably also as a case where one was turned in by a relative and providing a pretty solid case for the next 500 or so cases it says are behind it. Probably a pretty heavy outlier for all the cases and I don't think that he'll get the 20 years max but certainly the start of a lot of court cases for these terrorists.

I mean, fair.

The sad thing is these aren’t lone wolf types. Everyone who benefitted from the ‘stop the steal’ narrative, propagated and profited from it are going to skate.

There seems to me a curious lack of anger about that, from the similar types of people who were there at the Capitol.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 09 2022 00:17 GMT
#70734
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
March 09 2022 01:07 GMT
#70735
On March 09 2022 09:17 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2022 07:26 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 09 2022 05:47 JimmiC wrote:
On March 09 2022 05:45 Sadist wrote:
On March 09 2022 05:23 JimmiC wrote:
What is the excuse for a piece of garbage like this making it through the primary? I mean he does say the election is stolen, but can't you find better people who can repeat that nonsense, or is this really the best?

“Having three daughters, I tell my daughters, ‘Well, if rape is inevitable, you should just lie back and enjoy it,’” Regan said roughly 10 minutes into the broadcast. “That’s not how we roll, that’s not how we won this election.”




https://ca.yahoo.com/news/michigan-gop-candidate-tells-daughters-190734197.html




I dont understand the quote. It sounds like hes saying thats not what to do.


The guy is clearly a nut (Russia bombing Ukraine to knock out bioweapons labs run by Fauci?) But the reporting is confusing.


He is telling them that if they are going to be raped and can not get out of it they should just lay back and enjoy it. It is once of the worst quotes ever by anyone, let a lone someone currently running for office.


That was clearly said in jest to demonstrate the futility and ridiculousness of just lying down and taking the hits in an election.
Was it wise to utter something that could be easily taken out of context? Maybe. But then he has another excuse to blame the "fake news legacy media".


There are a million analogies to use, and this is one he picks? Best people.....


Very vulgar and inappropriate for civil society of course, but considering he's basically trying to appeal to rednecks...
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27148 Posts
March 09 2022 01:12 GMT
#70736
On March 09 2022 10:07 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2022 09:17 JimmiC wrote:
On March 09 2022 07:26 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 09 2022 05:47 JimmiC wrote:
On March 09 2022 05:45 Sadist wrote:
On March 09 2022 05:23 JimmiC wrote:
What is the excuse for a piece of garbage like this making it through the primary? I mean he does say the election is stolen, but can't you find better people who can repeat that nonsense, or is this really the best?

“Having three daughters, I tell my daughters, ‘Well, if rape is inevitable, you should just lie back and enjoy it,’” Regan said roughly 10 minutes into the broadcast. “That’s not how we roll, that’s not how we won this election.”




https://ca.yahoo.com/news/michigan-gop-candidate-tells-daughters-190734197.html




I dont understand the quote. It sounds like hes saying thats not what to do.


The guy is clearly a nut (Russia bombing Ukraine to knock out bioweapons labs run by Fauci?) But the reporting is confusing.


He is telling them that if they are going to be raped and can not get out of it they should just lay back and enjoy it. It is once of the worst quotes ever by anyone, let a lone someone currently running for office.


That was clearly said in jest to demonstrate the futility and ridiculousness of just lying down and taking the hits in an election.
Was it wise to utter something that could be easily taken out of context? Maybe. But then he has another excuse to blame the "fake news legacy media".


There are a million analogies to use, and this is one he picks? Best people.....


Very vulgar and inappropriate for civil society of course, but considering he's basically trying to appeal to rednecks...

Does it work as an analogy if your target audience doesn’t think the parallel you’re drawing is even a bad thing?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
March 09 2022 01:21 GMT
#70737
Rednecks are smart enough to know that rape is bad, I'd imagine.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 09 2022 01:32 GMT
#70738
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 09 2022 01:42 GMT
#70739
On March 08 2022 15:52 Doc.Rivers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2022 13:35 Severedevil wrote:
The people calling to kill government officials while hunting for government officials where the government officials work and equipped with weapons with which to kill the government officials would never ever kill government officials, don't be ridiculous.


It's easy to make an argument when you exaggerate every aspect of the facts. All you are actually saying is that you strongly disagree with me. I'm just saying that when there's a crowd of a couple thousand and it's estimated by NPR that 3 dozen had weapons, but mostly makeshift blunt objects, no guns, no knives, etc, that crowd did set out with the intent to hunt and kill people.


Let's examine how doc chose to respond to this situation,

1) Pretends facts are being exaggerated, essentially rejecting well documented reality.

2) Presupposes that the facts being discussed are a matter of disagreement, that it is just a matter of looking through a different lens, rather than documented reality.

3) Pretends what determines if bad people were present is the % of them, not the absolute value.

In the end, it is worth pointing out that he has essentially not conceded a single point throughout this entire conversation. It has been long winded justifications for rejecting the realities that all of us are taking as a given.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27148 Posts
March 09 2022 01:51 GMT
#70740
On March 09 2022 10:42 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2022 15:52 Doc.Rivers wrote:
On March 08 2022 13:35 Severedevil wrote:
The people calling to kill government officials while hunting for government officials where the government officials work and equipped with weapons with which to kill the government officials would never ever kill government officials, don't be ridiculous.


It's easy to make an argument when you exaggerate every aspect of the facts. All you are actually saying is that you strongly disagree with me. I'm just saying that when there's a crowd of a couple thousand and it's estimated by NPR that 3 dozen had weapons, but mostly makeshift blunt objects, no guns, no knives, etc, that crowd did set out with the intent to hunt and kill people.


Let's examine how doc chose to respond to this situation,

1) Pretends facts are being exaggerated, essentially rejecting well documented reality.

2) Presupposes that the facts being discussed are a matter of disagreement, that it is just a matter of looking through a different lens, rather than documented reality.

3) Pretends what determines if bad people were present is the % of them, not the absolute value.

In the end, it is worth pointing out that he has essentially not conceded a single point throughout this entire conversation. It has been long winded justifications for rejecting the realities that all of us are taking as a given.

4) Complaining it’s unfair to characterise his response as shrugging off the events.

I might be broadly in favour both of the cause and methodology of protests against the police. It a bunch of folks at such a protest were chanting fuck the police, had weapons and stormed a police station and were stopped, making a claim like ‘no police officers were in danger’ would be patently ridiculous.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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