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On September 13 2020 00:50 JimmiC wrote:Probably just above his IQ to understand what the song is about. Did Fred Junior get anywhere near action? Because I would suspect it is like Donald, go to military school so you can pretend you support the troops. Magically get bone spurs that prevent your military service but cause you such little problems that as a obese 70+ you can still golf multiple times a week. Speaking of Golf I remember a bunch of Jabs at Obama for his in frequent golfing. I wonder how many more rounds Trump has had? It is amazing that his base, much like his father, holds him accountable for nothing he does or says. edit: Oh good it is tracked and it is not even close! I guess that it costs the American tax payers so much does not matter because it is really a drop in the bucket compared to the Trillions of dollars of debt. At least all the money is going back into the economy, oh wait it is at his own resort so that money is also going to Trump. The guy is fleecing Murica and 40% of the people are loving him for it, crazy town. https://presidentialgolftracker.com/trump-vs-obama-golf-games/
I always found him billing the secret service for rooms and accommodation at his properties shameless and unacceptable grifting, especially at the frequency he does. I don't understand it's not forbidden.
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Northern Ireland26779 Posts
Who has the most technically sound golf swing between them though?
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If you read Commander in Cheat, Trump isn't a bad golfer but he cheats and lies constantly, just like in politics.
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On September 13 2020 00:58 Nouar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2020 00:50 JimmiC wrote:Probably just above his IQ to understand what the song is about. Did Fred Junior get anywhere near action? Because I would suspect it is like Donald, go to military school so you can pretend you support the troops. Magically get bone spurs that prevent your military service but cause you such little problems that as a obese 70+ you can still golf multiple times a week. Speaking of Golf I remember a bunch of Jabs at Obama for his in frequent golfing. I wonder how many more rounds Trump has had? It is amazing that his base, much like his father, holds him accountable for nothing he does or says. edit: Oh good it is tracked and it is not even close! I guess that it costs the American tax payers so much does not matter because it is really a drop in the bucket compared to the Trillions of dollars of debt. At least all the money is going back into the economy, oh wait it is at his own resort so that money is also going to Trump. The guy is fleecing Murica and 40% of the people are loving him for it, crazy town. https://presidentialgolftracker.com/trump-vs-obama-golf-games/ I always found him billing the secret service for rooms and accommodation at his properties shameless and unacceptable grifting, especially at the frequency he does. I don't understand it's not forbidden.
It sort of falls in the emoluments clause, which has been under lawsuits since the day he took office. It should prohibit him from owning any properties that a foreign national can pay for the use of, but courts move super slow and a bunch have basically said no one has the legal standing to bring the cases about it, so it is effectively meaningless right now.
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On September 13 2020 04:10 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2020 00:58 Nouar wrote:On September 13 2020 00:50 JimmiC wrote:Probably just above his IQ to understand what the song is about. Did Fred Junior get anywhere near action? Because I would suspect it is like Donald, go to military school so you can pretend you support the troops. Magically get bone spurs that prevent your military service but cause you such little problems that as a obese 70+ you can still golf multiple times a week. Speaking of Golf I remember a bunch of Jabs at Obama for his in frequent golfing. I wonder how many more rounds Trump has had? It is amazing that his base, much like his father, holds him accountable for nothing he does or says. edit: Oh good it is tracked and it is not even close! I guess that it costs the American tax payers so much does not matter because it is really a drop in the bucket compared to the Trillions of dollars of debt. At least all the money is going back into the economy, oh wait it is at his own resort so that money is also going to Trump. The guy is fleecing Murica and 40% of the people are loving him for it, crazy town. https://presidentialgolftracker.com/trump-vs-obama-golf-games/ I always found him billing the secret service for rooms and accommodation at his properties shameless and unacceptable grifting, especially at the frequency he does. I don't understand it's not forbidden. It sort of falls in the emoluments clause, which has been under lawsuits since the day he took office. It should prohibit him from owning any properties that a foreign national can pay for the use of, but courts move super slow and a bunch have basically said no one has the legal standing to bring the cases about it, so it is effectively meaningless right now.
Not sure the emoluments clause is about money taxpayers (the govt) gives to his properties. Isn't it more about what he can or can not receive from third-parties and foreigners?
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This I say to anyone who ever supported Trump or ever planned to support trump in the most sincere way that I can.
Go. Fuck. Your. President. He is not mine and never will be. This crosses a line of civility and politics that should never EVER be fucking crossed.
www.forbes.com
TLDR: Trump siphoning money from 911 responder funds because he's mad at gov Cuomo. Anyone who tries to frame it any other way is full of shit and doesn't understand how this dip shit operates.
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On September 13 2020 05:26 Trainrunnef wrote:This I say to anyone who ever supported Trump or ever planned to support trump in the most sincere way that I can. Go. Fuck. Your. President. He is not mine and never will be. This crosses a line of civility and politics that should never EVER be fucking crossed. www.forbes.comTLDR: Trump siphoning money from 911 responder funds because he's mad at gov Cuomo. Anyone who tries to frame it any other way is full of shit and doesn't understand how this dip shit operates.
Yeah but ANTIFA.
Andy Ngo.
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United States24772 Posts
One time I was playing golf and I noticed that Obama was in the bunker on an adjacent hole. If I hooked my shot, I would hit the president (this was back when he was still in office). Secret service kept "wanding" me and I demanded a free stroke due to the distraction. The secret service agent laughed and said I probably should get a free stroke.
I don't know how good of a golfer Obama is, but he did seem to get out of the bunker and on the green in one shot, which is pretty good. The only thing I know about Trump is that he drives his golf cart on the green. That is taboo and worse than everything else he's ever done.
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Northern Ireland26779 Posts
On September 13 2020 06:07 micronesia wrote:
One time I was playing golf and I noticed that Obama was in the bunker on an adjacent hole. If I hooked my shot, I would hit the president (this was back when he was still in office). Secret service kept "wanding" me and I demanded a free stroke due to the distraction. The secret service agent laughed and said I probably should get a free stroke.
I don't know how good of a golfer Obama is, but he did seem to get out of the bunker and on the green in one shot, which is pretty good. The only thing I know about Trump is that he drives his golf cart on the green. That is taboo and worse than everything else he's ever done.
This anecdote definitely beats my meeting Hillary Clinton one anyway.
I do like this thread having the occasional lighthearted touch, makes hearing shite like first responder funds being tapped into slightly more bearable
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On September 13 2020 08:57 JimmiC wrote:
I'm really not a fan of Trumps politics, but the more you find out about him you realize that is politics is the least awful thing about the guy. He is just an awful human being in almost every way.
I think one thing conservatives won't argue against is that as a person, Trump is for sure the worst overall person to be president in recent history
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On September 14 2020 04:27 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2020 08:57 JimmiC wrote:
I'm really not a fan of Trumps politics, but the more you find out about him you realize that is politics is the least awful thing about the guy. He is just an awful human being in almost every way. I think one thing conservatives won't argue against is that as a person, Trump is for sure the worst overall person to be president in recent history
I bet a lot of conservatives think Bill Clinton is evil.
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I mean in terms of personal morals and presidential communication? Probably so.
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On September 14 2020 06:31 JimmiC wrote:
It is strange that he still has such ardent support from the evangelicals. To me ends justify the means is not a Christian value.
I don't think it's a leap to say evangelicals don't exactly follow Jesus' teachings very well in general.
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On September 14 2020 06:31 JimmiC wrote:
It is strange that he still has such ardent support from the evangelicals. To me ends justify the means is not a Christian value.
Abortion and gays. That's basically the entirety of it.
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A little history goes a long way.
Trump's evangelical support comes primarily from the same evangelical groups that opposed ending slavery, supported apartheid South Africa, Jim Crow, etc.
Those that don't understand Trump's support from evangelicals don't know the history (or contemporary position) of evangelicals in the US
EDIT: Figured this was obvious, but jic I'm talking about *white* evangelicals.
Found someone writing about this from last year:
So it's not surprising that white evangelicals supported the Muslim ban, are the least likely to accept refugees into the country (according to the Pew Foundation) and, though a slim majority oppose it, are the denomination most likely to support Trump's child separation policy. White evangelicals certainly are not concerned with white supremacy, because they are often white supremacists.
And Trump appeals to these evangelicals because of his focus on declension, decline and destruction, which fits into evangelical beliefs about the end times. When Trump used the term “American carnage” in his inaugural address, evangelicals listened; they too, believed America is in decline. Their imagined powerlessness, and the need for a strong authoritarian leader to protect them, is at the root of their racial and social animus. Their persecution complex is a heady mix of their fear of “socialists,” Muslims, independent women, LGBT people and immigration. Their feelings of fragility, despite positions of power, make them vote for people like Donald Trump — and morally suspect candidates like Roy Moore. Rhetoric, not morality, drives their voting habits.
www.nbcnews.com
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