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Liquid`Drone
Norway28784 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12425 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28784 Posts
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KwarK
United States43827 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
On June 06 2018 00:35 Liquid`Drone wrote: hm I can actually see switzerland and nevada make sense because of swiss watches being a typical poker player status symbol. Hong Kong and Utah however, makes less immediate sense. Gold is the primary trade from Utah - Hong Kong, and Nevada - Switzerland apparently. http://economyutah.blogspot.com/2015/03/utah-golden-child-of-us-exports.html - Utah stats https://qz.com/268164/why-switzerland-is-nevadas-biggest-foreign-trading-partner/ | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 06 2018 00:36 KwarK wrote: Delaware is an onshore offshore tax haven for shell companies. Their economy is weird. I dont think its the Incorporating thats the main export, pretty sure theres lots of places other than Belgium that are spending more in that sort of service space in Delaware, someone sent me this the other day, i think its from reddit. https://imgur.com/MZ9cRwX Also for anyone interested in what stuff Canada is going to countervail https://www.fin.gc.ca/activty/consult/cacsap-cmpcaa-eng.asp The specific rates arent out yet, but if its anything like the current countervailed products its like 110 - 200 percent. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 06 2018 00:15 TheDwf wrote: Is it really wise to piss off the Canada? Trumps picking bad targets and tariffs are never wise. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 06 2018 00:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The following happened, in this order: 1. The White House invited the Philadelphia Eagles to come visit. 2. Most of the Eagles said "Hell naw, fuck Trump." 3. Trump started to pout and wanted to come up with a way to reverse the break-up so it looked like he uninvited the Eagles instead of getting turned down by them. 4. Trump turned on Fox News, where reporters were lying about the Eagles players kneeling during the National Anthem (they were actually showing pictures of Eagles players praying long before the game and music started). 5. Trump sees the fake news on Fox, believes it, and decides to uninvite the remaining Eagles players who were actually willing to visit the White House in the first place out of pity for Trump. https://deadspin.com/fox-news-shows-eagles-players-praying-falsely-implies-1826564582?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=Deadspin_facebook He canceled the visit and Fox showed that on their news coverage of the cancellation. How did he then cancel the visit a second time upon seeing it? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 06 2018 00:55 Danglars wrote: He canceled the visit and Fox showed that on their news coverage of the cancellation. How did he then cancel the visit a second time upon seeing it? He changed his reasoning claiming that they refused to stand for the anthem, which is false and not the reason he gave yesterday in the White House press release. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 06 2018 01:05 Plansix wrote: He changed his reasoning claiming that they refused to stand for the anthem, which is false and not the reason he gave yesterday in the White House press release. See that makes more sense for a timeline. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, who has been indicted by U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller, attempted to tamper with potential witnesses, Mueller said in a court filing on Monday. Mueller, who is investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, asked the judge overseeing the case in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to revoke or revise an order releasing Manafort ahead of his trial. Manafort was released to home confinement after his arraignment in October. Mueller has indicted Manafort in federal courts in Virginia and Washington, D.C., with an array of allegations from money-laundering and failing to register as a foreign agent, to bank and tax fraud. Manafort has pleaded not guilty. FBI Special Agent Brock Domin, in a declaration filed with Mueller’s motion, said Manafort had attempted to call, text and send encrypted messages in February to two people from “The Hapsburg Group,” a firm he worked with to promote the interests of Ukraine. The FBI has documents and statements from the two people, as well as telephone records and documents recovered through a search of Manafort’s iCloud account showing that Trump’s former campaign manager attempted communication while he was out on bail, according to Domin. The communications were “in an effort to influence their testimony and to otherwise conceal evidence,” Domin wrote. “The investigation into this matter is ongoing.” Manafort is the most senior member of Trump’s campaign to be indicted, though the charges do not relate to campaign activities. Mueller urged Judge Amy Berman Jackson to “promptly” schedule a hearing on the whether to change Manafort’s conditions of release, which could result in Manafort going to jail. The Washington trial is set to start on Sept. 17. Where does this leave Manafort? Seems like this is a new charge that will be added to his case since this was after he was arrested or turned himself in. Apparently the two people Manafort tried to tamper with handed over everything to Mueller, including text messages. Do you think Trump may try to pardon Manafort here too at this point? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
The joker should just flip and get it over with. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On June 06 2018 02:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort/manafort-attempted-to-tamper-with-potential-witnesses-u-s-special-counsel-idUSKCN1J1043 Where does this leave Manafort? Seems like this is a new charge that will be added to his case since this was after he was arrested or turned himself in. Apparently the two people Manafort tried to tamper with handed over everything to Mueller, including text messages. Do you think Trump may try to pardon Manafort here too at this point? I doubt trump would pardon manafort here. There's no reason to rush a pardon through preemptively; and trump has shown little inclination to risk himself for anyone else. A pardon on manafort here would expose Trump considerably. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 06 2018 02:49 zlefin wrote: I doubt trump would pardon manafort here. There's no reason to rush a pardon through preemptively; and trump has shown little inclination to risk himself for anyone else. A pardon on manafort here would expose Trump considerably. there are certainly things that make it seem unlikely but I could think of some reasons for him to do it despite it. First of all it's a move that shows that he doesn't give a fuck, makes him look "strong" (his kind of srong, hence the quotation marks). But even more importantly it sends a strong sign to anyone else involved with Mueller that Trump has their backs as long as they stay loyal to him. That is, even if they would end up in jail because of the Mueller investigation, they won't have to go to jail as long as they keep their mouth shut about him. And his base would totally accept that and cheer it on as Trump dismantling the witch hunt or something like that. Hard to say imo. Perhaps not now but I'm not so sure about later on. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Introvert
United States4922 Posts
This WP article seems to support my view that this isn't nefarious, esp since some of the people really did deserve a pardon (i.e. not Arpio or Blagojevich). https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trump-fixates-on-pardons-could-soon-give-reprieve-to-63-year-old-woman-after-meeting-with-kim-kardashian/2018/06/05/37ac6cb6-683d-11e8-bbc5-dc9f3634fa0a_story.html | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10871 Posts
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Introvert
United States4922 Posts
On June 06 2018 04:22 Velr wrote: Uhm... Trump likes standing above the law and therefore this bs is somehow ok? Or what exactly did you just say? Using a constitutional power is standing above the law? Did I not just say that I'm ok with them if they are used well? Do you know what you are commenting on? edit: what part of that is bs? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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