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On May 12 2020 08:47 JimmiC wrote: Something Trump made up to distract from the awful job hes doing as president. He was asked directly and of course had no answer.
It frustrating that some people think he is smart, he is clearly below average in IQ and he has much worse characteristics then his lack of brain power.
Maybe he's nervous about tomorrow. Financial hearings and Fauci testifying....
On May 12 2020 08:47 JimmiC wrote: Something Trump made up to distract from the awful job hes doing as president. He was asked directly and of course had no answer.
It frustrating that some people think he is smart, he is clearly below average in IQ and he has much worse characteristics then his lack of brain power.
Maybe he's nervous about tomorrow. Financial hearings and Fauci testifying....
Trump is finished this time! (How many times have people got their hopes up about this by now?)
Going to wait on Barr and Durham information but feels like something big is just around the corner.Flynn case has been interesting indeed. Dems on the defensive now for sure.
On May 12 2020 08:47 JimmiC wrote: Something Trump made up to distract from the awful job hes doing as president. He was asked directly and of course had no answer.
It frustrating that some people think he is smart, he is clearly below average in IQ and he has much worse characteristics then his lack of brain power.
Maybe he's nervous about tomorrow. Financial hearings and Fauci testifying....
Trump is finished this time! (How many times have people got their hopes up about this by now?)
Going to wait on Barr and Durham information but feels like something big is just around the corner.Flynn case has been interesting indeed. Dems on the defensive now for sure.
Looks like Twitter is finally going to publicly fact-check Trump's idiotic and dangerous messages. I would love to see the majority of Trump's tweets reported, evaluated, and tagged as fake news. Fact-check the shit out of him, if they can't just ban him altogether.
Coronavirus: Twitter will add warnings to misleading tweets, including Donald Trump's Twitter will now label tweets containing disputed or misleading information regarding the coronavirus outbreak
Twitter has started applying warnings to tweets containing disputed or misleading information about the coronavirus outbreak, new rules which will extend to missives from Donald Trump.
The social media site is introducing labels to tweets containing moderately false or harmful claims linked to the pandemic, directing users to either a Twitter-curated page or external source depending on the tweet's content.
Tweets containing more severe claims with a higher likelihood of either causing harm or misleading people will be masked behind a warning reading: "Some or all of the content shared in this tweet conflicts with guidance from public health experts regarding Covid-19."
Twitter will remove tweets it identifies as containing severely misleading information which has been confirmed to be false by experts such as public health authorities.
Tweets from world leaders, including Mr Trump, will be subject to the new rules, Yoel Roth, Twitter's head of site integrity, said.
The US president has consistently made false claims about the coronavirus, including that it could be treated by injecting disinfectant, encouraging Americans to take an anti-malaria drug that has not been proven safe or effective against the virus, and claiming he had seen proof the virus had been manufactured in a Wuhan laboratory.
Twitter has been criticised for failing to regulate Mr Trump's inflammatory tweets in the past. The President told a group of Democratic Congresswomen of colour to "go home" in a series of tweets, which Twitter claimed did not violate its rules despite its guidelines stating the company was "committed to combating abuse motivated by hatred, prejudice or intolerance, particularly abuse that seeks to silence the voices of those who have been historically marginalised."
The company said it would take down tweets that could incite anti-5G activists to attack phone masts in the mistaken belief the technology causes or accelerates Covid-19 last month.
The company said it had removed more than 2,230 tweets containing “misleading and potentially harmful content” since it changed its policies in response to the outbreak on 18 March, with its automated system Ed challenging more than 3.4m accounts targeting “manipulative discussions around Covid-19”.
Twitter has been taking down tweets that deny health authority recommendations and established scientific facts, alongside potentially harmful or unfounded treatment or protection measures.
However, the company’s emphasis on targeting tweets with the potential to cause harm means that tweets containing false claims relating to 5G and coronavirus could be allowed to remain on the platform if they are found to be non-harmful.
On May 12 2020 21:00 Erasme wrote: If only the US presidential debates had the same rules. You shouldn't be able to lie your way through one without the host calling you out.
Sadly, even when Trump gets called out during debates, it apparently has little effect.
I remember taking this picture during the actual debate: + Show Spoiler +
Will the supreme court make a decision today if a sitting president has total immunity from subpoenas and investigations, or is it just the start of hearings with a decision being made at a later date?
On May 12 2020 22:12 farvacola wrote: It’s just arguments today iirc, but they’ll prolly expedite the decision given the circumstances. Hard to say when it’ll come out.
Can you generally tell how someone will vote based on arguments? Do people ever say "this is horse shit" then vote surprisingly? Also what is a range of time for this to come out?
Those are mostly games of fortune telling, but the best SCOTUS soothsayers post at SCOTUSblog, I’d check it out if you’re curious about decisional tendencies and all that. The long and short of it is that guessing a justice’s leaning based on argument engagement tends to be very difficult.
On May 13 2020 00:15 farvacola wrote: Those are mostly games of fortune telling, but the best SCOTUS soothsayers post at SCOTUSblog, I’d check it out if you’re curious about decisional tendencies and all that. The long and short of it is that guessing a justice’s leaning based on argument engagement tends to be very difficult.
Are there any notable instances of novel arguments presented to the supreme court (as in not presented to lower courts) and/or justices referencing them as swaying their opinion?
I’m sure that has happened, but there is a strong presumption against appellate courts entertaining arguments not raised below such that whenever a holding relies on one, it is safe to assume the court is doing something politically charged. Ginsburg just recently took the 9th to task for raising its own argument and then relying on it iirc.
It all boils down to if the president should be 'burdened' with having to deal with any subpoenas. I feel like investigating him for money laundering should be important enough to deal with the 'burden' of hiring a lawyer but hey.
The house counsel Douglas Letter also pointed out that literally no action is required by the president when the case is asking Deutsche Bank and an accounting firm for records. Conservative justices were very concerned about the slippery slope argument of 'harassing' the president with endless subpoena's and came with hypothetical about subpoenaing his children's health records etc. Letter did not have a good answer for what would be limiting measure, he did not do well on that. President's counsel Strawbridge did worse though, he had very little answers and pretty much argued watergate investigation was illegal lol
Now second case, with Jay Sekulow defending Trump, who wants temporary immunity for presidents. I say any amount of time listening to Sekulow should count as a burden...what a tool that guy is.
On May 13 2020 01:13 JimmiC wrote: Do people really not think Trump is nuts at this point? Claiming MSNBC's "morning joe" committed murder. I mean the Obama Gate thing was pretty dumb but this is spectacularly stupid.
It saddens me that some 40%+ American's read his twitter and think it is factual. It is bad enough that poison control had to help out a bunch of people ingesting bleach, or when he said Alabama was in the path of a hurricane and then used a sharpie too "add" it to the path, and the Alabama weather had to make an announcement that everyone was safe. But now some wacko could try to get "justice" for Trump or something.
It is getting really out of hand how much flat out lies he is posting. And I suspect it is only going to get crazier as the pandemic numbers and polling gets worse and worse.
Nothing says "Donald Trump" like arbitrarily accusing innocent people of murder just because you don't like their news programs. Sigh. There's also a special irony, as you pointed out, in Trump - of all people - accusing *others* of causing death.
On May 13 2020 01:13 JimmiC wrote: Do people really not think Trump is nuts at this point? Claiming MSNBC's "morning joe" committed murder. I mean the Obama Gate thing was pretty dumb but this is spectacularly stupid.
It saddens me that some 40%+ American's read his twitter and think it is factual. It is bad enough that poison control had to help out a bunch of people ingesting bleach, or when he said Alabama was in the path of a hurricane and then used a sharpie too "add" it to the path, and the Alabama weather had to make an announcement that everyone was safe. But now some wacko could try to get "justice" for Trump or something.
It is getting really out of hand how much flat out lies he is posting. And I suspect it is only going to get crazier as the pandemic numbers and polling gets worse and worse.
Why would you assume 40%+ Americans use twitter let alone follow Trump on twitter AND think his shitposts are factual
On May 13 2020 01:13 JimmiC wrote: Do people really not think Trump is nuts at this point? Claiming MSNBC's "morning joe" committed murder. I mean the Obama Gate thing was pretty dumb but this is spectacularly stupid.
It saddens me that some 40%+ American's read his twitter and think it is factual. It is bad enough that poison control had to help out a bunch of people ingesting bleach, or when he said Alabama was in the path of a hurricane and then used a sharpie too "add" it to the path, and the Alabama weather had to make an announcement that everyone was safe. But now some wacko could try to get "justice" for Trump or something.
It is getting really out of hand how much flat out lies he is posting. And I suspect it is only going to get crazier as the pandemic numbers and polling gets worse and worse.
Why would you assume 40%+ Americans use twitter let alone follow Trump on twitter AND think his shitposts are factual
Any % above 0 is too many. He "joked" about injecting disinfectant. He told people to take unproven medication. People took it seriously. We used to have presidents who didn't make unforced errors and telling Americans to inflict self-harm. Our standards have fallen like you can't imagine if your alarm bells haven't been going off at this.
On May 13 2020 01:13 JimmiC wrote: Do people really not think Trump is nuts at this point? Claiming MSNBC's "morning joe" committed murder. I mean the Obama Gate thing was pretty dumb but this is spectacularly stupid.
It saddens me that some 40%+ American's read his twitter and think it is factual. It is bad enough that poison control had to help out a bunch of people ingesting bleach, or when he said Alabama was in the path of a hurricane and then used a sharpie too "add" it to the path, and the Alabama weather had to make an announcement that everyone was safe. But now some wacko could try to get "justice" for Trump or something.
It is getting really out of hand how much flat out lies he is posting. And I suspect it is only going to get crazier as the pandemic numbers and polling gets worse and worse.
Why would you assume 40%+ Americans use twitter let alone follow Trump on twitter AND think his shitposts are factual
Any % above 0 is too many. He "joked" about injecting disinfectant. He told people to take unproven medication. People took it seriously. We used to have presidents who didn't make unforced errors and telling Americans to inflict self-harm. Our standards have fallen like you can't imagine if your alarm bells haven't been going off at this.
Given Trump's track record of committing serious offense X as he accuses someone else of committing the same serious offense X, I think we should all be trying to figure out who Trump just murdered.
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