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HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States766 Posts
May 12 2020 02:25 GMT
#46121
On May 12 2020 08:47 JimmiC wrote:
Something Trump made up to distract from the awful job hes doing as president. He was asked directly and of course had no answer.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/it-took-one-question-for-a-reporter-to-expose-trumps-latest-baseless-obama-conspiracy/ar-BB13W5B5?li=AAggNb9

It frustrating that some people think he is smart, he is clearly below average in IQ and he has much worse characteristics then his lack of brain power.


Maybe he's nervous about tomorrow. Financial hearings and Fauci testifying....
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4462 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-12 08:41:52
May 12 2020 08:38 GMT
#46122
On May 12 2020 11:25 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2020 08:47 JimmiC wrote:
Something Trump made up to distract from the awful job hes doing as president. He was asked directly and of course had no answer.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/it-took-one-question-for-a-reporter-to-expose-trumps-latest-baseless-obama-conspiracy/ar-BB13W5B5?li=AAggNb9

It frustrating that some people think he is smart, he is clearly below average in IQ and he has much worse characteristics then his lack of brain power.


Maybe he's nervous about tomorrow. Financial hearings and Fauci testifying....

Trump is finished this time! (How many times have people got their hopes up about this by now?)

Going to wait on Barr and Durham information but feels like something big is just around the corner.Flynn case has been interesting indeed.
Dems on the defensive now for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
May 12 2020 09:31 GMT
#46123
On May 12 2020 17:38 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2020 11:25 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
On May 12 2020 08:47 JimmiC wrote:
Something Trump made up to distract from the awful job hes doing as president. He was asked directly and of course had no answer.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/it-took-one-question-for-a-reporter-to-expose-trumps-latest-baseless-obama-conspiracy/ar-BB13W5B5?li=AAggNb9

It frustrating that some people think he is smart, he is clearly below average in IQ and he has much worse characteristics then his lack of brain power.


Maybe he's nervous about tomorrow. Financial hearings and Fauci testifying....

Trump is finished this time! (How many times have people got their hopes up about this by now?)

Going to wait on Barr and Durham information but feels like something big is just around the corner.Flynn case has been interesting indeed.
Dems on the defensive now for sure.

yeah...
passive quaranstream fan
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46687 Posts
May 12 2020 11:52 GMT
#46124
Looks like Twitter is finally going to publicly fact-check Trump's idiotic and dangerous messages. I would love to see the majority of Trump's tweets reported, evaluated, and tagged as fake news. Fact-check the shit out of him, if they can't just ban him altogether.

Coronavirus: Twitter will add warnings to misleading tweets, including Donald Trump's
Twitter will now label tweets containing disputed or misleading information regarding the coronavirus outbreak

Twitter has started applying warnings to tweets containing disputed or misleading information about the coronavirus outbreak, new rules which will extend to missives from Donald Trump.

The social media site is introducing labels to tweets containing moderately false or harmful claims linked to the pandemic, directing users to either a Twitter-curated page or external source depending on the tweet's content.

Tweets containing more severe claims with a higher likelihood of either causing harm or misleading people will be masked behind a warning reading: "Some or all of the content shared in this tweet conflicts with guidance from public health experts regarding Covid-19."

Twitter will remove tweets it identifies as containing severely misleading information which has been confirmed to be false by experts such as public health authorities.

Tweets from world leaders, including Mr Trump, will be subject to the new rules, Yoel Roth, Twitter's head of site integrity, said.

The US president has consistently made false claims about the coronavirus, including that it could be treated by injecting disinfectant, encouraging Americans to take an anti-malaria drug that has not been proven safe or effective against the virus, and claiming he had seen proof the virus had been manufactured in a Wuhan laboratory.

Twitter has been criticised for failing to regulate Mr Trump's inflammatory tweets in the past. The President told a group of Democratic Congresswomen of colour to "go home" in a series of tweets, which Twitter claimed did not violate its rules despite its guidelines stating the company was "committed to combating abuse motivated by hatred, prejudice or intolerance, particularly abuse that seeks to silence the voices of those who have been historically marginalised."

The company said it would take down tweets that could incite anti-5G activists to attack phone masts in the mistaken belief the technology causes or accelerates Covid-19 last month.

The company said it had removed more than 2,230 tweets containing “misleading and potentially harmful content” since it changed its policies in response to the outbreak on 18 March, with its automated system Ed challenging more than 3.4m accounts targeting “manipulative discussions around Covid-19”.

Twitter has been taking down tweets that deny health authority recommendations and established scientific facts, alongside potentially harmful or unfounded treatment or protection measures.

However, the company’s emphasis on targeting tweets with the potential to cause harm means that tweets containing false claims relating to 5G and coronavirus could be allowed to remain on the platform if they are found to be non-harmful.
https://inews.co.uk/news/coronavirus-twitter-warnings-misleading-tweets-donald-trump-2850197?fbclid=IwAR3nlmkMqQO-Uls39S67b07ZNX4YDinWdt8rzUrbWVweUIEW4KAN6iEHRJY
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-12 12:02:48
May 12 2020 12:00 GMT
#46125
If only the US presidential debates had the same rules. You shouldn't be able to lie your way through one without the host calling you out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46687 Posts
May 12 2020 12:52 GMT
#46126
On May 12 2020 21:00 Erasme wrote:
If only the US presidential debates had the same rules. You shouldn't be able to lie your way through one without the host calling you out.


Sadly, even when Trump gets called out during debates, it apparently has little effect.

I remember taking this picture during the actual debate: + Show Spoiler +
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"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-12 13:14:18
May 12 2020 13:04 GMT
#46127
Will the supreme court make a decision today if a sitting president has total immunity from subpoenas and investigations, or is it just the start of hearings with a decision being made at a later date?
Neosteel Enthusiast
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18876 Posts
May 12 2020 13:12 GMT
#46128
It’s just arguments today iirc, but they’ll prolly expedite the decision given the circumstances. Hard to say when it’ll come out.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 12 2020 14:08 GMT
#46129
You can listen to the arguments here

Neosteel Enthusiast
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 12 2020 14:55 GMT
#46130
On May 12 2020 22:12 farvacola wrote:
It’s just arguments today iirc, but they’ll prolly expedite the decision given the circumstances. Hard to say when it’ll come out.


Can you generally tell how someone will vote based on arguments? Do people ever say "this is horse shit" then vote surprisingly? Also what is a range of time for this to come out?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18876 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-12 15:16:06
May 12 2020 15:15 GMT
#46131
Those are mostly games of fortune telling, but the best SCOTUS soothsayers post at SCOTUSblog, I’d check it out if you’re curious about decisional tendencies and all that. The long and short of it is that guessing a justice’s leaning based on argument engagement tends to be very difficult.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24505 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-12 15:28:34
May 12 2020 15:27 GMT
#46132
On May 13 2020 00:15 farvacola wrote:
Those are mostly games of fortune telling, but the best SCOTUS soothsayers post at SCOTUSblog, I’d check it out if you’re curious about decisional tendencies and all that. The long and short of it is that guessing a justice’s leaning based on argument engagement tends to be very difficult.


Are there any notable instances of novel arguments presented to the supreme court (as in not presented to lower courts) and/or justices referencing them as swaying their opinion?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18876 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-12 15:40:20
May 12 2020 15:39 GMT
#46133
I’m sure that has happened, but there is a strong presumption against appellate courts entertaining arguments not raised below such that whenever a holding relies on one, it is safe to assume the court is doing something politically charged. Ginsburg just recently took the 9th to task for raising its own argument and then relying on it iirc.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 12 2020 16:13 GMT
#46134
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-12 16:16:49
May 12 2020 16:16 GMT
#46135
It all boils down to if the president should be 'burdened' with having to deal with any subpoenas. I feel like investigating him for money laundering should be important enough to deal with the 'burden' of hiring a lawyer but hey.

The house counsel Douglas Letter also pointed out that literally no action is required by the president when the case is asking Deutsche Bank and an accounting firm for records. Conservative justices were very concerned about the slippery slope argument of 'harassing' the president with endless subpoena's and came with hypothetical about subpoenaing his children's health records etc. Letter did not have a good answer for what would be limiting measure, he did not do well on that. President's counsel Strawbridge did worse though, he had very little answers and pretty much argued watergate investigation was illegal lol

Now second case, with Jay Sekulow defending Trump, who wants temporary immunity for presidents. I say any amount of time listening to Sekulow should count as a burden...what a tool that guy is.
Neosteel Enthusiast
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46687 Posts
May 12 2020 16:21 GMT
#46136
On May 13 2020 01:13 JimmiC wrote:
Do people really not think Trump is nuts at this point? Claiming MSNBC's "morning joe" committed murder. I mean the Obama Gate thing was pretty dumb but this is spectacularly stupid.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/trump-promotes-conspiracy-theory-accusing-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-of-murder/ar-BB13YiG6?li=AAggFp5

It saddens me that some 40%+ American's read his twitter and think it is factual. It is bad enough that poison control had to help out a bunch of people ingesting bleach, or when he said Alabama was in the path of a hurricane and then used a sharpie too "add" it to the path, and the Alabama weather had to make an announcement that everyone was safe. But now some wacko could try to get "justice" for Trump or something.

It is getting really out of hand how much flat out lies he is posting. And I suspect it is only going to get crazier as the pandemic numbers and polling gets worse and worse.


Nothing says "Donald Trump" like arbitrarily accusing innocent people of murder just because you don't like their news programs. Sigh. There's also a special irony, as you pointed out, in Trump - of all people - accusing *others* of causing death.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9336 Posts
May 12 2020 16:29 GMT
#46137
On May 13 2020 01:13 JimmiC wrote:
Do people really not think Trump is nuts at this point? Claiming MSNBC's "morning joe" committed murder. I mean the Obama Gate thing was pretty dumb but this is spectacularly stupid.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/trump-promotes-conspiracy-theory-accusing-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-of-murder/ar-BB13YiG6?li=AAggFp5

It saddens me that some 40%+ American's read his twitter and think it is factual. It is bad enough that poison control had to help out a bunch of people ingesting bleach, or when he said Alabama was in the path of a hurricane and then used a sharpie too "add" it to the path, and the Alabama weather had to make an announcement that everyone was safe. But now some wacko could try to get "justice" for Trump or something.

It is getting really out of hand how much flat out lies he is posting. And I suspect it is only going to get crazier as the pandemic numbers and polling gets worse and worse.


Why would you assume 40%+ Americans use twitter let alone follow Trump on twitter AND think his shitposts are factual
You're now breathing manually
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 12 2020 16:33 GMT
#46138
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 12 2020 18:21 GMT
#46139
On May 13 2020 01:29 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2020 01:13 JimmiC wrote:
Do people really not think Trump is nuts at this point? Claiming MSNBC's "morning joe" committed murder. I mean the Obama Gate thing was pretty dumb but this is spectacularly stupid.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/trump-promotes-conspiracy-theory-accusing-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-of-murder/ar-BB13YiG6?li=AAggFp5

It saddens me that some 40%+ American's read his twitter and think it is factual. It is bad enough that poison control had to help out a bunch of people ingesting bleach, or when he said Alabama was in the path of a hurricane and then used a sharpie too "add" it to the path, and the Alabama weather had to make an announcement that everyone was safe. But now some wacko could try to get "justice" for Trump or something.

It is getting really out of hand how much flat out lies he is posting. And I suspect it is only going to get crazier as the pandemic numbers and polling gets worse and worse.


Why would you assume 40%+ Americans use twitter let alone follow Trump on twitter AND think his shitposts are factual

Any % above 0 is too many. He "joked" about injecting disinfectant. He told people to take unproven medication. People took it seriously. We used to have presidents who didn't make unforced errors and telling Americans to inflict self-harm. Our standards have fallen like you can't imagine if your alarm bells haven't been going off at this.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46687 Posts
May 12 2020 18:51 GMT
#46140
On May 13 2020 03:21 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2020 01:29 Sent. wrote:
On May 13 2020 01:13 JimmiC wrote:
Do people really not think Trump is nuts at this point? Claiming MSNBC's "morning joe" committed murder. I mean the Obama Gate thing was pretty dumb but this is spectacularly stupid.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/trump-promotes-conspiracy-theory-accusing-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-of-murder/ar-BB13YiG6?li=AAggFp5

It saddens me that some 40%+ American's read his twitter and think it is factual. It is bad enough that poison control had to help out a bunch of people ingesting bleach, or when he said Alabama was in the path of a hurricane and then used a sharpie too "add" it to the path, and the Alabama weather had to make an announcement that everyone was safe. But now some wacko could try to get "justice" for Trump or something.

It is getting really out of hand how much flat out lies he is posting. And I suspect it is only going to get crazier as the pandemic numbers and polling gets worse and worse.


Why would you assume 40%+ Americans use twitter let alone follow Trump on twitter AND think his shitposts are factual

Any % above 0 is too many. He "joked" about injecting disinfectant. He told people to take unproven medication. People took it seriously. We used to have presidents who didn't make unforced errors and telling Americans to inflict self-harm. Our standards have fallen like you can't imagine if your alarm bells haven't been going off at this.


Given Trump's track record of committing serious offense X as he accuses someone else of committing the same serious offense X, I think we should all be trying to figure out who Trump just murdered.
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