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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-21 03:55:38
November 21 2019 03:54 GMT
#38021
No kidding, Biden is so bad. He really is acting senile. So many weird statements.

When talking about changing the culture of violence against women 'We just gotta keep punching at it, punching at it, punching at it' ....is he serious???
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
November 21 2019 04:14 GMT
#38022
Yang and Booker with amazing closing statements
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45771 Posts
November 21 2019 04:19 GMT
#38023
How was the debate overall?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
November 21 2019 04:21 GMT
#38024
That was perhaps the worst closing statement of all time by Biden. Amazing.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8074 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-21 07:48:40
November 21 2019 07:37 GMT
#38025
On November 21 2019 11:00 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2019 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
I feel like if Biden's son was both a rapist and murderer, it would mean nothing to me. The idea that someone's family means anything is silly. So long as they are not members of the government.

The only notable thing about it is Hunter lied about it.Denied he ever had sex with her, denied it was ever his kid.

As more dodgy Ukraine news keeps coming out (Ukrainian MPs claiming he pocketed millions from Burisma https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625876.html ) it just goes to reinforce the claim that Hunter is a bad hombre.

"- The president is exposed not only as a morally repugnant man who cheats his pregnant, third, three times younger wife with a pornstar, but a criminal who misuses his office and the military might of america for personal gain. And lies about it again and again.
- Look! The son of one of the democratic candidate had an affair!"

Pathetic.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
November 21 2019 11:23 GMT
#38026
On November 21 2019 12:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
No kidding, Biden is so bad. He really is acting senile. So many weird statements.

When talking about changing the culture of violence against women 'We just gotta keep punching at it, punching at it, punching at it' ....is he serious???


Holy shit. That's hilarious in the worst possible way.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
November 21 2019 12:13 GMT
#38027
On November 21 2019 11:11 Erasme wrote:
Cmon Kushner's job is just to do everything single handedly. You know he's a smart guy because everyone said so.


And also to give permission to SA to chop up journalists. There's a pretty compelling hypothesis out there that Kush told MBS to go for it, Turkey intercepted the message, and essentially blackmailed Trump into a Syria withdrawal.

I don't believe the blackmail business without more direct evidence, but I do believe the WH knew about what was happening and implicitly condoned it (maybe explicitly).
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26758 Posts
November 21 2019 12:46 GMT
#38028
On November 21 2019 12:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
No kidding, Biden is so bad. He really is acting senile. So many weird statements.

When talking about changing the culture of violence against women 'We just gotta keep punching at it, punching at it, punching at it' ....is he serious???

He actually used that phrasing? It would be funny levels of incompetence if he wasn’t in with a shot, or it was an isolated gaffe.

His actual politics aside, and I don’t hold it against candidates generally but I think Biden himself is too old for the gig. Whether it’s a physical decline or just lacking motivation he just seems drained, going through the motions and lacking a real feel of energy that you’d get from Bernie who is older.

I don’t get a feeling of ‘Why run?’ from Biden, more a ‘why not?’ and I think that’s reflected in his performance thus far.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-21 13:11:19
November 21 2019 13:07 GMT
#38029
The bit where he forgot Harris existed was hilarious and deeply scary. I was waiting for one of the edgier candidates to ask how his alzheimers was going.

Trump will eat him alive. In a faceoff between two senile old men, the shouty pathological liar is a hands-down favourite over the guy who needs to energise a base but is already mailing it in. He needs to be given as many opportunities as possible to gaffe his way out of the nomination or we are all screwed.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-21 14:41:48
November 21 2019 14:32 GMT
#38030
David Holmes looks like a genetically perfected bodybuilder version of Schamtoo.

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redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
November 21 2019 17:24 GMT
#38031
On November 21 2019 16:37 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2019 11:00 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On November 21 2019 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
I feel like if Biden's son was both a rapist and murderer, it would mean nothing to me. The idea that someone's family means anything is silly. So long as they are not members of the government.

The only notable thing about it is Hunter lied about it.Denied he ever had sex with her, denied it was ever his kid.

As more dodgy Ukraine news keeps coming out (Ukrainian MPs claiming he pocketed millions from Burisma https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625876.html ) it just goes to reinforce the claim that Hunter is a bad hombre.

"- The president is exposed not only as a morally repugnant man who cheats his pregnant, third, three times younger wife with a pornstar, but a criminal who misuses his office and the military might of america for personal gain. And lies about it again and again.
- Look! The son of one of the democratic candidate had an affair!"

Pathetic.

"For every Evangelical christian Trump alienates himself from, there are two business democrats thinking "Hey, I kinda like this guy!" - Mark Geragos

Most basic fukbois wanted a young supermodelwife and to bang their favorite pornstar so they latch on to Trump and live vicariously through him, because they got married and had a family. If anything it bumped Trumps support up a couple points.

...and Biden has to be the one to save us...fml
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8074 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-21 17:34:45
November 21 2019 17:33 GMT
#38032
On November 22 2019 02:24 redlightdistrict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2019 16:37 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On November 21 2019 11:00 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On November 21 2019 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
I feel like if Biden's son was both a rapist and murderer, it would mean nothing to me. The idea that someone's family means anything is silly. So long as they are not members of the government.

The only notable thing about it is Hunter lied about it.Denied he ever had sex with her, denied it was ever his kid.

As more dodgy Ukraine news keeps coming out (Ukrainian MPs claiming he pocketed millions from Burisma https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625876.html ) it just goes to reinforce the claim that Hunter is a bad hombre.

"- The president is exposed not only as a morally repugnant man who cheats his pregnant, third, three times younger wife with a pornstar, but a criminal who misuses his office and the military might of america for personal gain. And lies about it again and again.
- Look! The son of one of the democratic candidate had an affair!"

Pathetic.

"For every Evangelical christian Trump alienates himself from, there are two business democrats thinking "Hey, I kinda like this guy!" - Mark Geragos

Most basic fukbois wanted a young supermodelwife and to bang their favorite pornstar so they latch on to Trump and live vicariously through him, because they got married and had a family. If anything it bumped Trumps support up a couple points.

...and Biden has to be the one to save us...fml

Krugman made the argument that people who liked Trump liked him nit because he was like them (most of his base is poor and disfranchised) but because he behaves the way they would were they as rich as him: eating KFC, marrying supermodels, paying for sex with pornstars, shitting in golden toilets and behaving like an absolute c&@t to everyone below him.

Doesn't make Nettles intervention any less ludicrous. Guy really needs to get a grip.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-21 17:38:48
November 21 2019 17:37 GMT
#38033
On November 22 2019 02:24 redlightdistrict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2019 16:37 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On November 21 2019 11:00 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On November 21 2019 10:07 Mohdoo wrote:
I feel like if Biden's son was both a rapist and murderer, it would mean nothing to me. The idea that someone's family means anything is silly. So long as they are not members of the government.

The only notable thing about it is Hunter lied about it.Denied he ever had sex with her, denied it was ever his kid.

As more dodgy Ukraine news keeps coming out (Ukrainian MPs claiming he pocketed millions from Burisma https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625876.html ) it just goes to reinforce the claim that Hunter is a bad hombre.

"- The president is exposed not only as a morally repugnant man who cheats his pregnant, third, three times younger wife with a pornstar, but a criminal who misuses his office and the military might of america for personal gain. And lies about it again and again.
- Look! The son of one of the democratic candidate had an affair!"

Pathetic.

"For every Evangelical christian Trump alienates himself from, there are two business democrats thinking "Hey, I kinda like this guy!" - Mark Geragos

Most basic fukbois wanted a young supermodelwife and to bang their favorite pornstar so they latch on to Trump and live vicariously through him, because they got married and had a family. If anything it bumped Trumps support up a couple points.

...and Biden has to be the one to save us...fml

The point is that it's somehow "the only notable thing" that the son of a politician lied about it, and not the active President who paid sizable sums of hush money when he did the same thing. One person is irrelevant, and only through rampant desperation on the part of Republicans is he even part of political discourse. The other person is the one allegedly leading the country. It highlights the amount of naked partisanship required to overlook something so significant, only to zero in on something that doesn't matter at all whatsoever. Because Biden.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9053 Posts
November 21 2019 19:35 GMT
#38034
So Netanyahu is being indicted. Does this do anything for US/Israel relations or nah?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
November 21 2019 19:41 GMT
#38035
On November 22 2019 04:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So Netanyahu is being indicted. Does this do anything for US/Israel relations or nah?


Remind us we've got bipartisan support for actively aiding and abetting a corrupt administration carrying out an ethnic cleansing campaign? At least 2, if you count Saudi Arabia's.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-21 19:47:57
November 21 2019 19:46 GMT
#38036
The Republicans seem intimidated by Fiona Hill. They haven't really addressed her very much because they likely know she won't deal with any of their shit. She already dismantled several of them (Jim Jordan included) in the closed door hearing so they're just ranting about nonsense instead of actually participating in the hearing and questioning her.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Mo_tx
Profile Joined November 2019
26 Posts
November 21 2019 19:48 GMT
#38037
On November 22 2019 04:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2019 04:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So Netanyahu is being indicted. Does this do anything for US/Israel relations or nah?


Remind us we've got bipartisan support for actively aiding and abetting a corrupt administration carrying out an ethnic cleansing campaign? At least 2, if you count Saudi Arabia's.


I would agree with you
Don't you feel this has been changing recently though? I feel that much more democrats (including some sitting in congress) are critical of US policy toward Israel?
I mean we re still quite far from widespread critical positions on the colonization process, but I has the feeling we were slowly moving in this direction, at least among democrats.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28792 Posts
November 21 2019 19:53 GMT
#38038
I think many of the democrats want to distance themselves from the current more abhorrent foreign policies coming from trump but without distancing themselves from the former abhorrent foreign policies coming out of or supported by democrats.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
November 21 2019 20:05 GMT
#38039
On November 22 2019 04:48 Mo_tx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2019 04:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 22 2019 04:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So Netanyahu is being indicted. Does this do anything for US/Israel relations or nah?


Remind us we've got bipartisan support for actively aiding and abetting a corrupt administration carrying out an ethnic cleansing campaign? At least 2, if you count Saudi Arabia's.


I would agree with you
Don't you feel this has been changing recently though? I feel that much more democrats (including some sitting in congress) are critical of US policy toward Israel?
I mean we re still quite far from widespread critical positions on the colonization process, but I has the feeling we were slowly moving in this direction, at least among democrats.


Sorta?

Not sure what I'd be measuring. I certainly think Democrats are more critical of Trump doing the same shitty foreign policy things Obama was though.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9053 Posts
November 21 2019 20:06 GMT
#38040
On November 22 2019 05:05 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2019 04:48 Mo_tx wrote:
On November 22 2019 04:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 22 2019 04:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So Netanyahu is being indicted. Does this do anything for US/Israel relations or nah?


Remind us we've got bipartisan support for actively aiding and abetting a corrupt administration carrying out an ethnic cleansing campaign? At least 2, if you count Saudi Arabia's.


I would agree with you
Don't you feel this has been changing recently though? I feel that much more democrats (including some sitting in congress) are critical of US policy toward Israel?
I mean we re still quite far from widespread critical positions on the colonization process, but I has the feeling we were slowly moving in this direction, at least among democrats.


Sorta?

Not sure what I'd be measuring. I certainly think Democrats are more critical of Trump doing the same shitty foreign policy things Obama was though.

Probably because it was all through proper channels and procedures. Whereas trump is just tweeting it out or having some back alley meetings take place.
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