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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9484 Posts
July 14 2019 16:52 GMT
#33261
Inept and dysfunctional is an interesting choice of words.
RIP Meatloaf <3
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 17:48:04
July 14 2019 17:44 GMT
#33262
It's almost like he's compensating for something.

Also he's lashing out at "Progressive Democrat Women", making it very clear what his problem is, telling them to "go back where they came from", which is America, and "fix their dysfunctional government there", which again, is America, before "telling us how our government should be run", which as elected congresswomen is their job.

What a gem. It's gonna take me a while to appreciate the sheer strategic mastery on display here.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 17:54:37
July 14 2019 17:54 GMT
#33263
I remember when I first started playing games that required voice coms, and heard "Go back to your country" because I had a Spanish accent due to living in South Florida, and being able to speak two languages...
Life?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15466 Posts
July 14 2019 18:10 GMT
#33264
When your entire political philosophy is built around the statement of "ideas and beliefs never need to change because obviously the world never changes because of a lion feels no remorse eating a gazelle then we don't need ethics", it is hard to comprehend the idea of pointing out issues as a pretext to making improvements.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
July 14 2019 18:36 GMT
#33265
On July 14 2019 23:10 Nouar wrote:




Most likely referring to Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and AOC. Let me get this straight :

- Omar was born in Somalia and is a good exemple of integration : works, speaks english, progressed the social ladder. His comments could apply in her case maybe, as the diaspora could work towards fixing broken governments. Though after dozens of years of civil war, its KINDA HARD and still a very insensitive piece to say.
- Rachida Tlaib was born in Detroit from Palestinian parents. The US *is* her country, as much as Trump's children's or his father's. Her origins do not really have an independant government to fix, as the US doesn't recognize Palestine as a state, which would be a first step towards fixing it. So, bullshit here.
- AOC was born in Bronx, her father was born in Bronx from a Puerto Rican family, which IS an american territory, so she is even MORE american than Donald Trump. And Puerto Rico does not get representation in Congress.

Buuut, they are not white, and their names sound not white (nor eastern european, which looked sexy, as he married several).
What a (selectively) racist piece of shit.


(And I'm not even starting on evaluating if the US government has been broken nonfunctional and/or corrupted itself, these past two decades :-D)

What is happening today that his admin is attempting to obfuscate? This is clearly too correctly written to be Donald, so it's got to be white house pr handlers. Its obviously also using an easily incindiary topic, which is good at taking attention away from current events.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 18:56:38
July 14 2019 18:41 GMT
#33266
Imagine being Melania and reading this lmao. Did Trump forget he's married to an immigrant?

On July 15 2019 03:36 plated.rawr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 23:10 Nouar wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381395078000643
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381396994723841

Most likely referring to Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and AOC. Let me get this straight :

- Omar was born in Somalia and is a good exemple of integration : works, speaks english, progressed the social ladder. His comments could apply in her case maybe, as the diaspora could work towards fixing broken governments. Though after dozens of years of civil war, its KINDA HARD and still a very insensitive piece to say.
- Rachida Tlaib was born in Detroit from Palestinian parents. The US *is* her country, as much as Trump's children's or his father's. Her origins do not really have an independant government to fix, as the US doesn't recognize Palestine as a state, which would be a first step towards fixing it. So, bullshit here.
- AOC was born in Bronx, her father was born in Bronx from a Puerto Rican family, which IS an american territory, so she is even MORE american than Donald Trump. And Puerto Rico does not get representation in Congress.

Buuut, they are not white, and their names sound not white (nor eastern european, which looked sexy, as he married several).
What a (selectively) racist piece of shit.


(And I'm not even starting on evaluating if the US government has been broken nonfunctional and/or corrupted itself, these past two decades :-D)

What is happening today that his admin is attempting to obfuscate? This is clearly too correctly written to be Donald, so it's got to be white house pr handlers. Its obviously also using an easily incindiary topic, which is good at taking attention away from current events.

Probably Pence' visit to the immigrant detention centers, which was not a good look.

Or it's just a lame counter attack by Stephen Miller after Ocasio-Cortez called him out specifically for the mistreatment in the detention centers.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
July 14 2019 18:57 GMT
#33267
On July 15 2019 03:36 plated.rawr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2019 23:10 Nouar wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381395078000643
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381396994723841

Most likely referring to Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and AOC. Let me get this straight :

- Omar was born in Somalia and is a good exemple of integration : works, speaks english, progressed the social ladder. His comments could apply in her case maybe, as the diaspora could work towards fixing broken governments. Though after dozens of years of civil war, its KINDA HARD and still a very insensitive piece to say.
- Rachida Tlaib was born in Detroit from Palestinian parents. The US *is* her country, as much as Trump's children's or his father's. Her origins do not really have an independant government to fix, as the US doesn't recognize Palestine as a state, which would be a first step towards fixing it. So, bullshit here.
- AOC was born in Bronx, her father was born in Bronx from a Puerto Rican family, which IS an american territory, so she is even MORE american than Donald Trump. And Puerto Rico does not get representation in Congress.

Buuut, they are not white, and their names sound not white (nor eastern european, which looked sexy, as he married several).
What a (selectively) racist piece of shit.


(And I'm not even starting on evaluating if the US government has been broken nonfunctional and/or corrupted itself, these past two decades :-D)

What is happening today that his admin is attempting to obfuscate? This is clearly too correctly written to be Donald, so it's got to be white house pr handlers. Its obviously also using an easily incindiary topic, which is good at taking attention away from current events.
Supposedly the "ICE raids" are going down today. I haven't heard whether that has actually happened or not. They've threatened them multiple times now.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15466 Posts
July 14 2019 19:12 GMT
#33268
On July 15 2019 03:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Imagine being Melania and reading this lmao. Did Trump forget he's married to an immigrant?

There's a reason some of the prominent white nationalist groups identify as European. It's kind of like how middle eastern people get weird when you mention their African roots/genes. Some foreign stuff is ok, but only certain types of foreign.

Many white nationalists see Americans as a purified, idealized version of Europe. Immigrant means not European.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 14 2019 19:26 GMT
#33269
On July 15 2019 04:12 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 03:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Imagine being Melania and reading this lmao. Did Trump forget he's married to an immigrant?

There's a reason some of the prominent white nationalist groups identify as European. It's kind of like how middle eastern people get weird when you mention their African roots/genes. Some foreign stuff is ok, but only certain types of foreign.

Many white nationalists see Americans as a purified, idealized version of Europe. Immigrant means not European.

How do they deal with Mexico being mostly spanish and Spain being in Europe
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21508 Posts
July 14 2019 19:30 GMT
#33270
On July 15 2019 04:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 04:12 Mohdoo wrote:
On July 15 2019 03:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Imagine being Melania and reading this lmao. Did Trump forget he's married to an immigrant?

There's a reason some of the prominent white nationalist groups identify as European. It's kind of like how middle eastern people get weird when you mention their African roots/genes. Some foreign stuff is ok, but only certain types of foreign.

Many white nationalists see Americans as a purified, idealized version of Europe. Immigrant means not European.

How do they deal with Mexico being mostly spanish and Spain being in Europe
Mexican > European so the Spanish are dirty Mexican immigrants.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-14 19:38:02
July 14 2019 19:37 GMT
#33271
Reminds of the time I was playing a game online and some Americans told some Spanish people to go speak a European language...

...They also said the same thing to a French guy. Hatred needs not follow the bounds of reason.

I suppose it's the same line of thought that some people identifying themselves as Viking, because their grandmother was from "Scandinavia".
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12043 Posts
July 14 2019 20:00 GMT
#33272
On July 15 2019 04:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 04:12 Mohdoo wrote:
On July 15 2019 03:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Imagine being Melania and reading this lmao. Did Trump forget he's married to an immigrant?

There's a reason some of the prominent white nationalist groups identify as European. It's kind of like how middle eastern people get weird when you mention their African roots/genes. Some foreign stuff is ok, but only certain types of foreign.

Many white nationalists see Americans as a purified, idealized version of Europe. Immigrant means not European.

How do they deal with Mexico being mostly spanish and Spain being in Europe


It's not like whiteness makes sense in general so it doesn't have to make sense in the details either
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18820 Posts
July 14 2019 20:49 GMT
#33273
I think the ICE raids slated for today have fizzled out because the President’s racism is more obvious than ever and a lot of locals have planned for how to frustrate them.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13815 Posts
July 14 2019 21:23 GMT
#33274
On July 15 2019 05:49 farvacola wrote:
I think the ICE raids slated for today have fizzled out because the President’s racism is more obvious than ever and a lot of locals have planned for how to frustrate them.

I think it achieved the goals it was was intended to achive. I don't think the deporting people part was the focus..
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18820 Posts
July 14 2019 21:42 GMT
#33275
Sure, immigrants are more frightened of authorities than ever, goal achieved!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 14 2019 22:07 GMT
#33276
On July 15 2019 06:42 farvacola wrote:
Sure, immigrants are more frightened of authorities than ever, goal achieved!

I went through school, and remembered a thing or three. One of those things was the story of Anne Frank and the annex.

If that was your goal, well done. To the rest of us it's a chilling parallel.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
July 14 2019 23:29 GMT
#33277
On July 15 2019 00:07 Mohdoo wrote:
wow. telling congresswomen to go back home is pretty bad even for trump.


Is it really though? Feels more like the norm of what I would expect him to say...

I'm curious for the absence in these moments of all the people in the thread who are so often soooo inspired by their leader's words... curiously absent when he is speaking so loudly and obviously.

No doubt, they are still inspired, so much so into silence.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
July 15 2019 00:09 GMT
#33278
On July 15 2019 08:29 ShambhalaWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 00:07 Mohdoo wrote:
wow. telling congresswomen to go back home is pretty bad even for trump.


Is it really though? Feels more like the norm of what I would expect him to say...

I'm curious for the absence in these moments of all the people in the thread who are so often soooo inspired by their leader's words... curiously absent when he is speaking so loudly and obviously.

No doubt, they are still inspired, so much so into silence.


Probably just working on a neat dismissal line. Everyone getting their panties in a twist, clearly Trump's not being racist because he didn't explicitly state 'I am a racist' while wearing a klu klux klan hat, leftie liberal sensitivity etc. etc. I mean, they've dismissed way worse. This is water off a duck's back.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-15 00:23:09
July 15 2019 00:22 GMT
#33279
On July 15 2019 09:09 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 08:29 ShambhalaWar wrote:
On July 15 2019 00:07 Mohdoo wrote:
wow. telling congresswomen to go back home is pretty bad even for trump.


Is it really though? Feels more like the norm of what I would expect him to say...

I'm curious for the absence in these moments of all the people in the thread who are so often soooo inspired by their leader's words... curiously absent when he is speaking so loudly and obviously.

No doubt, they are still inspired, so much so into silence.


Probably just working on a neat dismissal line. Everyone getting their panties in a twist, clearly Trump's not being racist because he didn't explicitly state 'I am a racist' while wearing a klu klux klan hat, leftie liberal sensitivity etc. etc. I mean, they've dismissed way worse. This is water off a duck's back.

Clearly he's talking about the swamp, which The Left is fostering. It's really the simplest explanation in the world and you should all be ashamed for the blatant stoop to identity politics, but I guess I shouldn't expect anything better.

/S
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
July 15 2019 00:31 GMT
#33280
On July 15 2019 09:22 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2019 09:09 iamthedave wrote:
On July 15 2019 08:29 ShambhalaWar wrote:
On July 15 2019 00:07 Mohdoo wrote:
wow. telling congresswomen to go back home is pretty bad even for trump.


Is it really though? Feels more like the norm of what I would expect him to say...

I'm curious for the absence in these moments of all the people in the thread who are so often soooo inspired by their leader's words... curiously absent when he is speaking so loudly and obviously.

No doubt, they are still inspired, so much so into silence.


Probably just working on a neat dismissal line. Everyone getting their panties in a twist, clearly Trump's not being racist because he didn't explicitly state 'I am a racist' while wearing a klu klux klan hat, leftie liberal sensitivity etc. etc. I mean, they've dismissed way worse. This is water off a duck's back.

Clearly he's talking about the swamp, which The Left is fostering. It's really the simplest explanation in the world and you should all be ashamed for the blatant stoop to identity politics, but I guess I shouldn't expect anything better.

/S


/S = Sarcasm?
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