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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22525 Posts
March 22 2019 16:02 GMT
#24661
On March 23 2019 00:53 JimmiC wrote:
The real question is if Trump is found to collude with the Russian government to win the election. Will this hurt his chance of reelection? Or will his supporters just say, "glad he did it, he had to do that to fight the deep state and Hilary".

Part of em thinks the Mueller report doesn't matter because Trump people simply won't care what it shows because anything he does is worth it to fight the "deep state".
Yes and Yes.

People who support Trump now will probably keep supporting Trump because they are to far down the rabbit hole.
But those alone is not enough to win an election so it will hurt his chance of re-election. (can the GOP stop him from running again?)

Even if it doesn't matter in the end, these things should be investigated and I would expect there to be a significant tail end to this when Trump loses his protected status as President, be it in 2 or 6 years.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 22 2019 16:06 GMT
#24662
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
March 22 2019 17:02 GMT
#24663
On March 23 2019 01:06 JimmiC wrote:
I think should investigate as well. I just think for all the shit Trump gets for being not bright, he has created a situation that no matter what anyone says his base, which is massive will believe him over that, and he can change his point or position at any time and instead of people thinking he is hypocrite or was wrong they just think it is strategy. I really don't think there is anything that could happen that would lose Trump the support of his base. The key to the election is going to be if the Dems or Trump's win the independents.


It's not really about the independents for Dems so much as driving turn out and getting people to vote, basically the same as always. Non-voters pretty convincingly lean liberal/left and (unsurprisingly) most independent voters are actually lifelong dem/rep voters who stay independent because they dislike the party, but like it significantly more than the other one.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 22 2019 17:10 GMT
#24664
Independent voter really seems to be a hold over term from when the more of the population identified as remembers of the political parties. The old thought process was that the parties made up 40% of the voting population each(80% in total) and the remaining 20%ish was up for grabs. But now both parties are around 25-30% of the population that freely identify as either Republican or Democrat. But the rest of the voters still consistently vote for one party, even if they don't identify as a member of that party.

Now, I can't tell if this is a big change in how people vote since the 1990s or that political experts never really had a firm grasp on the why the voting population does anything. I am inclined to lean towards the latter based on recent elections.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-22 21:07:25
March 22 2019 21:05 GMT
#24665
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 22 2019 21:10 GMT
#24666
The shitstorm will begin :O
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 22 2019 21:11 GMT
#24667
On March 23 2019 06:05 plasmidghost wrote:
Mueller's investigation is now complete. I'm hoping that the report gets made public despite that one (or more, can't really remember) laws put in place after Nixon. Regardless of its contents, I hope Barr takes appropriate actions and, should an indictment be recommended, that it gets carried out.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/22/politics/robert-mueller-report/index.html


Crazy stuff. I suspect we will know the full truth, regardless of what it is, before too long.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 22 2019 21:12 GMT
#24668
We will know something once congress gets a hold of some version of the report.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
March 22 2019 21:17 GMT
#24669
Leaks start this weekend. Barr says he's possibly able to brief Congress then.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 22 2019 21:18 GMT
#24670
On March 23 2019 06:12 Plansix wrote:
We will know something once congress gets a hold of some version of the report.

do we know if the white house can make changes based on executive privilege before it goes to congress?
© Current year.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
March 22 2019 21:19 GMT
#24671
Well, I'm at the edge of my seat here. Either this is going to start the biggest shitshow in recent memory, or it's going to be the biggest letdown in years.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 22 2019 21:19 GMT
#24672
My bet is the people who know details will be small at first. But I have no doubt there will be plenty of sources willing to claim they know what the report says.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-22 21:20:31
March 22 2019 21:20 GMT
#24673
Man these next few weeks are going to be drama filled. I hope we dont have to spend too much time fighting to get the report to the public but I imagine we will. My guess is the WH will claim executive privilege on huge swathes of the report, which will cause a fight. Plus there is the whole issue of Barr ppssibly redacting parts relevant to Trump and his family because they weren't indicted.

Still, I'm confident the leaks will be fast and furious if any significant is hidden.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 22 2019 21:22 GMT
#24674
On March 23 2019 06:18 CorsairHero wrote:
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On March 23 2019 06:12 Plansix wrote:
We will know something once congress gets a hold of some version of the report.

do we know if the white house can make changes based on executive privilege before it goes to congress?

Barr and the justice department have it now. I would expect the White House will get to know what is in it at the shortly before congress does. Barr ins't doing to make any changes or do anything beyond release the report to the leadership and White House.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22525 Posts
March 22 2019 21:27 GMT
#24675
Anything past the bare minimum of redacting and the Democrats will throw a fit.
I expect the full thing to be released before long.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
March 22 2019 21:28 GMT
#24676
If a copy is sent to the white house, I sincerely expect the public to get a copy before congress does.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 22 2019 21:32 GMT
#24677
On March 23 2019 06:27 Gorsameth wrote:
Anything past the bare minimum of redacting and the Democrats will throw a fit.
I expect the full thing to be released before long.

The amount the Justice Department makes public is going to be a point of confrontation. That was always going to happen. I do not believe, however, that will hold true for the congressional leadership. They will get to see a large amount, if not all, of the report(they may not get a copy of that version)
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-22 21:33:52
March 22 2019 21:33 GMT
#24678
First question I want answered is how long it is.

Also, I'm curious to see what, if anything, is covered beyond the collusion and obstruction of justice issues.

BTW, this is not the news I wanted right before starting Sekiro... I feel so distracted! Ugh!!
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 22 2019 21:34 GMT
#24679
My bet is that the conclusion will be no obstruction, no collusion, but with a couple investigations ongoing in SDNY and wherever else.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 22 2019 21:36 GMT
#24680
On March 23 2019 06:19 Excludos wrote:
Well, I'm at the edge of my seat here. Either this is going to start the biggest shitshow in recent memory, or it's going to be the biggest letdown in years.

Don’t worry. We are going to get a shitshow. Given the lack of further indictments against Trump’s team, expect the DOJ to start going after the dirty FBI/DOJ officials (and possibly others) who got us into this mess now that Mueller is done.

Also, and as a relevant aside, looks like my predictions about Trump, Jr. and the tower meeting are going to age quite well. Imagine that. There is going to be a lot off egg to wipe off of people’s faces.
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