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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 16:35:31
February 27 2019 16:35 GMT
#23161
Jim Jordan sucks and is a sad reflection of Ohio politics. Good to see him flail around like the baby he is.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15687 Posts
February 27 2019 16:38 GMT
#23162
"Neither should I as the son of a holocaust survivor"

wowowowowow
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 27 2019 16:39 GMT
#23163
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 16:39:54
February 27 2019 16:39 GMT
#23164
mr Meadows ' I have here behind me a black woman who says Trump is not racist'
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 16:40:32
February 27 2019 16:39 GMT
#23165
On February 28 2019 01:34 micronesia wrote:
While Trump has on occasion obfuscated the truth for the greater good of the country, he hasn’t actually lied more than other political leadership, including the democrats who always exaggerate the egregiousness of inaccuracies when coming from republicans. At least, that is the argument you would need to refute with people who have zero interest in listening seriously.


I bet a link to Politifact showing Trumps 70% lie ratio compared to Obamas 27% isn't going to convince anyone either?

On February 28 2019 01:39 JimmiC wrote:
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On February 28 2019 01:34 micronesia wrote:
While Trump has on occasion obfuscated the truth for the greater good of the country, he hasn’t actually lied more than other political leadership, including the democrats who always exaggerate the egregiousness of inaccuracies when coming from republicans. At least, that is the argument you would need to refute with people who have zero interest in listening seriously.


If it was online I'd start with one of the many website outlining his lies. I think they would have to argue that his lies are are for the greater good or some sort of negotiating tactic or something. I don't think there is any way at this point you could consider him honest, even his supporters must see that he constantly is not forthright.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/


Oh, beaten to the punch
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 27 2019 16:40 GMT
#23166
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2019 16:44 GMT
#23167
I liked the part they tried call him as a fraud, couldn’t the facts of the bank fraud straight and then Cohen just admitted to the crime anyways. I said it before, the Republicans are going to try and assassinate the character of a dude that already pled guilty and is going to prison. Not a good plan.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15687 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 16:46:52
February 27 2019 16:44 GMT
#23168
On February 28 2019 01:40 JimmiC wrote:
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On February 28 2019 01:38 Mohdoo wrote:
"Neither should I as the son of a holocaust survivor"

wowowowowow



If you are going to post about what is going on can you add some context please. Otherwise for us not watching the posts make no sense.


Sorry.

Republican dude brought in a black lady as the classic "well, well well...you say Trump is racist...and yet, I have behind me, a black woman who works at the Trump org and she says Trump isn't racist. Check. fucking. maaaaaaaate"

he asks her to talk. She says "As the daughter of a ___ ____ ________, I should never work for a racist!", implying Trump is totally not racist.

And he replies "Neither should I as the son of a holocaust survivor"
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9618 Posts
February 27 2019 16:47 GMT
#23169
i almost feel bad for him watching this. on one hand, he’s reaping what he sowed, but other felons don’t get their verbal beating on national television.

Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15687 Posts
February 27 2019 16:48 GMT
#23170
On February 28 2019 01:47 brian wrote:
i almost feel bad for him watching this. on one hand, he’s reaping what he sowed, but other felons don’t get their verbal beating on national television.



I'd say he's doing a good job at clearing his name and showing himself to be a better guy than we would all assume. I think he's very concerned about his legacy and how his family feels about him.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 16:51:17
February 27 2019 16:50 GMT
#23171
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iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 16:54:06
February 27 2019 16:51 GMT
#23172
On February 28 2019 01:39 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 01:34 micronesia wrote:
While Trump has on occasion obfuscated the truth for the greater good of the country, he hasn’t actually lied more than other political leadership, including the democrats who always exaggerate the egregiousness of inaccuracies when coming from republicans. At least, that is the argument you would need to refute with people who have zero interest in listening seriously.


I bet a link to Politifact showing Trumps 70% lie ratio compared to Obamas 27% isn't going to convince anyone either?

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2019 01:39 JimmiC wrote:
On February 28 2019 01:34 micronesia wrote:
While Trump has on occasion obfuscated the truth for the greater good of the country, he hasn’t actually lied more than other political leadership, including the democrats who always exaggerate the egregiousness of inaccuracies when coming from republicans. At least, that is the argument you would need to refute with people who have zero interest in listening seriously.


If it was online I'd start with one of the many website outlining his lies. I think they would have to argue that his lies are are for the greater good or some sort of negotiating tactic or something. I don't think there is any way at this point you could consider him honest, even his supporters must see that he constantly is not forthright.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/


Oh, beaten to the punch


Politifact's already been accounted for. I've seen it described as a partisan hack website that's biased against Conservatives.

As, indeed, are most people who care about the truth. It's all the lies that does it, I think.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 27 2019 16:52 GMT
#23173
The part about lobbying and the contract was pretty funny. I also enjoyed the comment about Cohen being a nice guy and Cohen just agreeing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 27 2019 16:57 GMT
#23174
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15687 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 17:00:45
February 27 2019 16:57 GMT
#23175
"Who is individual 1?"

"Donald J. Trump"

*mohdoo faints*
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9647 Posts
February 27 2019 17:01 GMT
#23176
For anyone who's wondering about the context of these comments there's a play by play here:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/feb/27/michael-cohen-testimony-trump-news-latest-live-updates-hearing-payments-stormy-daniels-today
RIP Meatloaf <3
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 17:04:30
February 27 2019 17:03 GMT
#23177
mr Gosar: You are a pathological liar you can't tell truths from falsehoods

Cohen ' Are you referring to me or the president'


lmao
Neosteel Enthusiast
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 27 2019 17:05 GMT
#23178
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10700 Posts
February 27 2019 17:06 GMT
#23179
Whats the point of the guy just going on a tangent whiteout asking a question?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-27 17:09:24
February 27 2019 17:07 GMT
#23180
Are you here to get a reduced sentence?

Cohen: I’m not sure how appearing before congress would help me with the southern district of New York, but if there is something this chamber can do I would gladly welcome it.

Again, the honesty of Cohen about not wanting to go to prison for 3 years dumbfounds Republicans members.

On February 28 2019 02:06 Velr wrote:
Whats the point of the guy just going on a tangent whiteout asking a question?

He is allowed 5 minutes. He can waste them if he wants. The Democrats are smart to not get involved and just let Cohen take it in the teeth.

Congress is political theater. Some congress members are about quality theater. Others are just there to hog the spotlight whenever it is available .
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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