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On July 23 2016 05:30 JoeCool wrote:I do not think that this is true, there was however this "mysterious" Facebookaccount by a girl named "Selina Akim". From the name and the looks, it seems like she's from the middle-east. On her Facebookpage she invited people to meet her at the OZE (the mall where the shootings happened) at 16.00 o'clock. It's obvious that this account has been a bait - probably by the guys who are responsible for the attacks - and it was already shut down... but still. Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:26 SoSexy wrote:
So GSC9 came immediately and they still didn't get them ? You've obviously never worked as a or with policemen.
Why are you so rude? I never claimed I worked with the police. Everything in nice happened in less than an hour - is it so strange to ask this?
Jeez, everyone on this forum is an expert of everything -.-
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On July 23 2016 05:36 WhiteDog wrote:
Would be really weird for neo nazis to attack a mall, why not a mosque ? They're that dumb ?
Nazis attacking Germans for no particular reason has tradition in Munich I suppose.
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On July 23 2016 05:36 WhiteDog wrote:
Would be really weird for neo nazis to attack a mall, why not a mosque ? They're that dumb ?
They also attacked the octoberfest in the past. Terrorists arent acutally smart people or they wouldnt die for their ideology.
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On July 23 2016 05:26 SoSexy wrote:
So GSC9 came immediately and they still didn't get them ?
do you realize how big is a city ?
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On July 23 2016 05:38 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:26 SoSexy wrote:
So GSC9 came immediately and they still didn't get them ? do you realize how big is a city ?
Not particulalry big, and the whole thing with GSG9 seems to be very confusing for people who get their info from Counterstrike.
GSG9 is a single small elite unit of the federal police. They'll send something like 50 guys. That doesn't mean that there isn't police, including special forces, in Munich all the time, it'll just be state police.
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On July 23 2016 05:36 WhiteDog wrote:
Would be really weird for neo nazis to attack a mall, why not a mosque ? They're that dumb ?
If it is neo-Nazis or something similar it could be to 'wake them up' to 'what is going on' and to punish them for not being neo-Nazis or something similar. That is what Breivik did, he attacked that summer camp run by the youth league of the Norwegian Labour Party, to punish the left wing in Norway for 'betraying Christian civilization' or whatever.
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Interesting way of speaking from the perpetrator on the roof in that one video (if that is actually footage of one of the perpetrators).
And I acctually dont think that the guy on the balcony shouted the "fucking foreigners". seemed more like the guy on the roof was shouting. Would be shocked to see it actually beeing nazis
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My gf just called me, says she can hear shooting coming from outside, shes a German national currently working as a doctor in a hospital in Dinslaken i believe? Or Hulsemannshop sorry i have no little knowledge about German towns
Not sure how far that is from Munich but its not looking good, just hoping its a false alarm and its fireworks or something which was the first question i asked her, she seemed pretty convinced though.
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On July 23 2016 05:41 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:36 WhiteDog wrote:
Would be really weird for neo nazis to attack a mall, why not a mosque ? They're that dumb ? If it is neo-Nazis or something similar it could be to 'wake them up' to 'what is going on' and to punish them for not being neo-Nazis or something similar. That is what Breivik did, he attacked that summer camp run by the youth league of the Norwegian Labour Party, to punish the left wing in Norway for 'betraying Christian civilization' or whatever.
it would fit... it's also the 5th anniversary... so if this is the motive it would make 'sense' to do it today
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On July 23 2016 05:41 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:36 WhiteDog wrote:
Would be really weird for neo nazis to attack a mall, why not a mosque ? They're that dumb ? If it is neo-Nazis or something similar it could be to 'wake them up' to 'what is going on' and to punish them for not being neo-Nazis or something similar. That is what Breivik did, he attacked that summer camp run by the youth league of the Norwegian Labour Party, to punish the left wing in Norway for 'betraying Christian civilization' or whatever.
Yeah, but Breivik in his dementia had picked a target that made sense (a summer camp for the party that defended multiculralism and diversity). This just does not make any sense, you can't make any distinction in a mall, you can kill muslim and neo nazis with the same bullet : it's too random.
But, coming from Zatic and Clonester's comments, they might be that stupid.
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Number of dead rises to nine, a dead body was found maybe one of the perpetrators.
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On July 23 2016 05:37 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:36 WhiteDog wrote:
Would be really weird for neo nazis to attack a mall, why not a mosque ? They're that dumb ? Nazis attacking Germans for no particular reason has tradition in Munich I suppose.
Actual National Socialists from the 30's would have rounded up and shot these people calling themselves Nazi's today, there is no continuity between them unlike other fascist movements in eastern Europe today which are run by the offspring of Nazi-collaborators ect.
Neo-nazi's are just violent unadjusted people that use fascism as a gateway to violence and drugs and other people that like the same things. The same can be said for anti-fascists in northern Europe also.
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Does that area/mall have a good affluence of immigrants ?
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On July 23 2016 05:45 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:37 zatic wrote:On July 23 2016 05:36 WhiteDog wrote:
Would be really weird for neo nazis to attack a mall, why not a mosque ? They're that dumb ? Nazis attacking Germans for no particular reason has tradition in Munich I suppose. Actual National Socialists from the 30's would have rounded up and shot these people calling themselves Nazi's today, there is no continuity between them unlike other fascist movements in eastern Europe today which are run by the offspring of Nazi-collaborators ect. Neo-nazi's are just violent unadjusted people that use fascism as a gateway to violence and drugs and other people that like the same things. The same can be said for anti-fascists in northern Europe also.
I was of course referring to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest_terror_attack
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On July 23 2016 05:44 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:41 DeepElemBlues wrote:On July 23 2016 05:36 WhiteDog wrote:
Would be really weird for neo nazis to attack a mall, why not a mosque ? They're that dumb ? If it is neo-Nazis or something similar it could be to 'wake them up' to 'what is going on' and to punish them for not being neo-Nazis or something similar. That is what Breivik did, he attacked that summer camp run by the youth league of the Norwegian Labour Party, to punish the left wing in Norway for 'betraying Christian civilization' or whatever. Yeah, but Breivik in his dementia had picked a target that made sense (a summer camp for the party that defended multiculralism and diversity). This just does not make any sense, you can't make any distinction in a mall, you can kill muslim and neo nazis with the same bullet : it's too random. But, coming from other comments, they might be that stupid.
There are plenty of examples of violent fringe groups attacking random civilians because they're pissed off that the general populace isn't coming around to supporting their undeniable crazy 'truth.' If you're in that us few brave revolutionaries against the whole wicked world mindset you can find a bunch of reasons to kill random civilians, from frustration to punishment to wanting to instill fear/show your power.
It's all speculation anyway until they capture or kill the shooters and discover their identities.
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On July 23 2016 05:42 Reaps wrote:
My gf just called me, says she can hear shooting coming from outside, shes a German national currently working as a doctor in a hospital in Dinslaken i believe? Or Hulsemannshop sorry i have no little knowledge about German towns
Not sure how far that is from Munich but its not looking good, just hoping its a false alarm and its fireworks or something which was the first question i asked her, she seemed pretty convinced though.
Dinslaken is hundreds of kilometers away from Munich. I don't know "Hulsemannshop", sounds rather nordic though. Tell ur gf to turn off the TV or whatever. If she's not in Munich, there's zero probability she can hear shooting from the outside.
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On July 23 2016 05:44 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:41 DeepElemBlues wrote:On July 23 2016 05:36 WhiteDog wrote:
Would be really weird for neo nazis to attack a mall, why not a mosque ? They're that dumb ? If it is neo-Nazis or something similar it could be to 'wake them up' to 'what is going on' and to punish them for not being neo-Nazis or something similar. That is what Breivik did, he attacked that summer camp run by the youth league of the Norwegian Labour Party, to punish the left wing in Norway for 'betraying Christian civilization' or whatever. Yeah, but Breivik in his dementia had picked a target that made sense (a summer camp for the party that defended multiculralism and diversity). This just does not make any sense, you can't make any distinction in a mall, you can kill muslim and neo nazis with the same bullet : it's too random. But, coming from other comments, they might be that stupid.
Munich is a big city and muslims live mostly in big cities. If you go to a place like a mall, where you can find a lot people, you will most likely find a lot of muslims. It's not that irrational.
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On July 23 2016 05:46 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 05:42 Reaps wrote:
My gf just called me, says she can hear shooting coming from outside, shes a German national currently working as a doctor in a hospital in Dinslaken i believe? Or Hulsemannshop sorry i have no little knowledge about German towns
Not sure how far that is from Munich but its not looking good, just hoping its a false alarm and its fireworks or something which was the first question i asked her, she seemed pretty convinced though. Dinslaken is hundreds of kilometers away from Munich. I don't know "Hulsemannshop", sounds rather nordic though. Tell ur gf to turn off the TV or whatever. If she's not in Munich, there's zero probability she can hear shooting from the outside.
Yes i am worried about a second attack in a different location, there is no TV around.
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Second attack was confirmed a false alarm
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