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ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 06:08:53
March 21 2011 05:26 GMT
#8681
On March 21 2011 13:06 ZaplinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 14:14 Kenderson wrote:
Awesome article on tolerance and effects


I read this and decided to pull some (hopefully) interesting quotes:

Show nested quote +
The conclusions of the researchers: "It would seem paradoxical that animals receiving the highest doses of cannabinoids would show the greatest and fastest return to normal levels [of behavior]; however, the receptor down-regulation in these animals was so profound that the behavioral correlate may be due to the great loss of functional binding sites." In other words, when the rats had had "enough," their receptors simply switched off.
(note: this is the opposite effect of an addictive drug)

Show nested quote +
The minimum dose of THC required to get a person high is 10 micrograms per kilogram of body weight. For a 165-pound person, this would be 750 micrograms of THC, about what is delivered by one bong hit.


Show nested quote +
While most users are familiar with varying potencies of marijuana, many are only vaguely aware of differences in the efficiency of various ways to smoke it. Clinical studies indicate that only 10 to 20% of the available THC is transferred from a joint cigarette to the body. A pipe is better, allowing for 45% of the available THC to be consumed. A bong is a very efficient delivery system for marijuana; in ideal conditions the only THC lost is in the exhaled smoke.


Show nested quote +
Constant therapeutic use of marijuana represents a third tier of effects from the drug, a tier once thought unimaginable because of the now-discredited fear of addiction. At this level, tolerance compensates for virtually all marijuana-related impairment of motor coordination and cognitive functions. The result is a therapeutic drug with wide applications and few debilitating side effects.


In summary, the article is saying that its scientifically proven that you cannot be physically addicted to green, just habitually. It also stresses that the more you smoke, the less you get out of it because your brain just shuts down its cannabis receptors once its had enough. The optimal way to stay as high as physically possible is to not consistently smoke large amounts, but rather small amounts (like 1-3 bong hits) a day.

I'd have to agree. I was smoking a bunch there for a while, but eventually got to the point where I couldn't really get high anymore. I took like a two day break and now only smoke once or twice a day and get fucking ripped



I guess its time to break this 5 year streak. MAN I'm going to be thinking so clear !
May just wait until I'm called back to work

Edit: Back and baked. hellll yeahh, thought I would share that, its a goodn I know.
I hate when cops drive by when I'm blazing, I always have to pretend like I'm cleaning my glasses lol.
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
March 21 2011 17:05 GMT
#8682
The strangest thing happened to me yesterday morning. I was waiting for my toast to pop while staring out the kitchen window. A car slows down in front of my house and I see the driver's side door open (which was on the opposite side) and the driver leans over, then pulls away quickly. Left in the middle of the road is a 1.5 foot clear, green and yellow bong. Obviously I run out and grab it. It's pretty dirty, but just as dirty as my bongs have gotten. So I cleaned it out with rubbing alcohol and salt and got it all sparkling. Sadly after all the cleaning was done I didn't have any bud left D: so I grabbed the screen out of my pipe and did some crystal hits in it. It hits pretty well, for some reason it doesn't clear out that well when you take the bowl out. It's airtight so I can't see why...but whatevs.

Randomest Shit in the world

resulting in free bong.
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
March 22 2011 01:42 GMT
#8683
didn't know what bong to get, went with this one
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/EHLE_Glass__Ice_Cylinder_Bong_Hexagon_Foot__500ml.cfm?iProductID=5911

hope it was worth it :/
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Senj
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States193 Posts
March 22 2011 01:49 GMT
#8684
Gonna pick up an eighth later tonight and blaze it up with a good friend. It's been a few weeks since I smoked, and I'm looking forward to getting ridiculously baked. Good times ahead TL smokers. :D
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 02:21:52
March 22 2011 02:15 GMT
#8685
On March 21 2011 12:40 MetalMarine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 11:26 jello_biafra wrote:
On March 21 2011 11:21 MetalMarine wrote:
LOL any medical doctors or something like that on this thread.. I just woke up this morning and my freaking knee hurts like crap, it's kind of hard to walk up or down the stairs, can't run, i have to stretch out my legs slowly...I feel the pain around my knee cap area. Any help would be appreciated =)

Happened to me once, my right knee, didn't seem there was much I could do but it went away after a couple days.


Thanks for the input, it actually helps a lot. A little relieved too, hopefully it'll go away

Edit: Found someone with the same problem when i googled it, someone said this....

the first thing that comes to mind is a meniscus injury. meniscus can be injured in a variety of ways, a football tackle, a twist motion, or even just walking. you may have torn the meniscus before and now it is just displaced/moved.

people with meniscus tears usually have a hard time hyperflexing the knee (ie squatting), turn or twist suddenly, going up or down stairs, or stand on only the injured side and twist the body/knee left and right.

it wouldn't hurt if you gave it a little time, try rest (avoiding sports or activities that exacerbates the pain), ice, elevation, and some anti-inflammatory medication (motrin). if things don't improve after a few weeks then see an orthopedic surgeon.


Hope the pain goes away in a few days, i am a poor college student and do not have money to pay for expensive things right now =(

Also did you do anything in particular in order for you to get rid of it, or did you just took it easy on the knee?

EDIT 2 : DAMN!!!!! I spent my 1k post on getting help on my knee pains LOL. Well I would've posted something on this thread anyways

Yeah I just rested basically, I think I cycled particularly vigorously one night and that was the cause of it ;;


On March 22 2011 02:05 maneatingshoe wrote:
The strangest thing happened to me yesterday morning. I was waiting for my toast to pop while staring out the kitchen window. A car slows down in front of my house and I see the driver's side door open (which was on the opposite side) and the driver leans over, then pulls away quickly. Left in the middle of the road is a 1.5 foot clear, green and yellow bong. Obviously I run out and grab it. It's pretty dirty, but just as dirty as my bongs have gotten. So I cleaned it out with rubbing alcohol and salt and got it all sparkling. Sadly after all the cleaning was done I didn't have any bud left D: so I grabbed the screen out of my pipe and did some crystal hits in it. It hits pretty well, for some reason it doesn't clear out that well when you take the bowl out. It's airtight so I can't see why...but whatevs.

Randomest Shit in the world

resulting in free bong.

haha, that is awesome. I guess they wanted to dispose of any evidence that they'd been smoking for some reason lol.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 02:30:14
March 22 2011 02:27 GMT
#8686
On March 21 2011 13:06 ZaplinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2011 14:14 Kenderson wrote:
Awesome article on tolerance and effects


I read this and decided to pull some (hopefully) interesting quotes:

Show nested quote +
The conclusions of the researchers: "It would seem paradoxical that animals receiving the highest doses of cannabinoids would show the greatest and fastest return to normal levels [of behavior]; however, the receptor down-regulation in these animals was so profound that the behavioral correlate may be due to the great loss of functional binding sites." In other words, when the rats had had "enough," their receptors simply switched off.
(note: this is the opposite effect of an addictive drug)

Show nested quote +
The minimum dose of THC required to get a person high is 10 micrograms per kilogram of body weight. For a 165-pound person, this would be 750 micrograms of THC, about what is delivered by one bong hit.


Show nested quote +
While most users are familiar with varying potencies of marijuana, many are only vaguely aware of differences in the efficiency of various ways to smoke it. Clinical studies indicate that only 10 to 20% of the available THC is transferred from a joint cigarette to the body. A pipe is better, allowing for 45% of the available THC to be consumed. A bong is a very efficient delivery system for marijuana; in ideal conditions the only THC lost is in the exhaled smoke.


Show nested quote +
Constant therapeutic use of marijuana represents a third tier of effects from the drug, a tier once thought unimaginable because of the now-discredited fear of addiction. At this level, tolerance compensates for virtually all marijuana-related impairment of motor coordination and cognitive functions. The result is a therapeutic drug with wide applications and few debilitating side effects.


In summary, the article is saying that its scientifically proven that you cannot be physically addicted to green, just habitually. It also stresses that the more you smoke, the less you get out of it because your brain just shuts down its cannabis receptors once its had enough. The optimal way to stay as high as physically possible is to not consistently smoke large amounts, but rather small amounts (like 1-3 bong hits) a day.

I'd have to agree. I was smoking a bunch there for a while, but eventually got to the point where I couldn't really get high anymore. I took like a two day break and now only smoke once or twice a day and get fucking ripped


I think mental addictions can be even more difficult to break than physical addictions. So although we can say it's just "habitual", really it's a mental addiction. If a person smokes weed everyday they are addicted to marijuana. Whether or not this is a problem to that particular person, it is up for them to decide.

If a person blazes every single day that they have bud, I really don't see how they can say they aren't addicted. Of course people will rebut with:

"other things are mentally addictive too, like starcraft and food, we do those every day as well"
But, that's a horrible argument.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
ThumperSD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 03:02:06
March 22 2011 03:01 GMT
#8687
I disagree about mental addiction being more difficult to break than physical addictions based purely on experience. Ive stopped smoking weed for 11 months after smoking nearly everyday for years. When I was able to smoke again I was smoking it everyday again though.

Physical addiction on the otherhand comes with BAD withdrawals... alcohol's withdrawals can kill you alone.

And SC2 can be just as psychologically addicting as weed. There's no difference.
wake up your mind
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 05:47:53
March 22 2011 05:46 GMT
#8688
On March 22 2011 02:05 maneatingshoe wrote:
The strangest thing happened to me yesterday morning. I was waiting for my toast to pop while staring out the kitchen window. A car slows down in front of my house and I see the driver's side door open (which was on the opposite side) and the driver leans over, then pulls away quickly. Left in the middle of the road is a 1.5 foot clear, green and yellow bong. Obviously I run out and grab it. It's pretty dirty, but just as dirty as my bongs have gotten. So I cleaned it out with rubbing alcohol and salt and got it all sparkling. Sadly after all the cleaning was done I didn't have any bud left D: so I grabbed the screen out of my pipe and did some crystal hits in it. It hits pretty well, for some reason it doesn't clear out that well when you take the bowl out. It's airtight so I can't see why...but whatevs.

Randomest Shit in the world

resulting in free bong.

what the hell LOL

did the guys see you see them? I wonder why they would randomly ditch a bong like that.

hit the bong and now time to play pokemon leaf green on my phone :3. named all my pokemon after progamers obviously
Pikachu: (Z)ZerO
Metapod: (T)Flash
Charmander: (P)Violet
hopefully for somewhat obvious reasons. i'm only like 30 mins in, so still need to determine some more.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
HavoK.
Profile Joined March 2010
United States172 Posts
March 22 2011 05:58 GMT
#8689
this is my homeland!
uiCk
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1925 Posts
March 22 2011 07:15 GMT
#8690
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
froGGifyre
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States213 Posts
March 22 2011 07:31 GMT
#8691
for you guys asking for good bongs or vapes the only place to go for high quality scientific glass is aqualab tech . just do a google seach and it'll take you to the website. happy toking
channel PanK since '00 twitter.com/froggifyre twitch.tv/froggifyre
Kal_rA1
Profile Joined January 2011
160 Posts
March 22 2011 08:29 GMT
#8692
On April 22 2010 02:43 shape wrote:
[image loading]



let your minds ponder on this one for awhile

this just fucking blew my mind
Jaedong Oz
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 23:41:38
March 23 2011 23:32 GMT
#8693
I'm just wondering on someone else's opinion.

I'm in Canada and I know we're going to be shortly legalizing pot after the us.
I live in Ontario and we already have a vape lounge. You pay your way in and can only smoke your own weed (smoking up your buddies is supplying) they even have a dispenser there for patients. The entrance fee allows you to use there different vaporizers.

How close is the us to doing this ? I know Obama laughed at this, but there is talk of him being voted out early. I do not think Obama will be the one to do this. More and more places are decriminalizing or legalizing marijuana, the time is coming closer if you ask me.
What do you think ?

Heres what it looked like inside the vape lounge.



I really don't know what to think of this, if your above the drinking age you can supposedly smoke here. As long as its your own.

Its the Niagara region, in Ontario. We have 420 rallys every year, walking up the high way 420, with bong and picket signs and shit. We parade down Clifton hill by the falls after words. Hitting bongs as we pass people in the street. Theres so many people that the cops just let it happen and try to keep it safe.
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
ThumperSD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 23:56:08
March 23 2011 23:52 GMT
#8694
I wouldnt say the US is close to legalizing marijuana. Probably in 10 years but not in the next couple years. It will start in California and spread to other states.

Some states have decriminalized marijuana already so getting caught with minor possession is like a small traffic ticket.

California obviously legalized marijuana for those who can get a prescription/recommendation and it wasnt until 08 or so until the feds stop raiding the dispensaries out here. But since then, dispensaries have been popping up literally everywhere with vape lounges as well... and hash bars!

btw what do you need to get into that vape lounge?
wake up your mind
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 24 2011 01:12 GMT
#8695
From the stuff I've seen and heard, legalization will be likely in Cali in the next 2 years. Of course everyone is saying different things, but that's what I heard, and I find it pretty accurate personally.

About that lounge, how exactly does it work legally? MJ is still classified as illegal there, so how are you able to smoke it without a medical certificate for it?
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
ChefStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada350 Posts
March 24 2011 01:15 GMT
#8696
On March 24 2011 10:12 Grobyc wrote:
From the stuff I've seen and heard, legalization will be likely in Cali in the next 2 years. Of course everyone is saying different things, but that's what I heard, and I find it pretty accurate personally.

About that lounge, how exactly does it work legally? MJ is still classified as illegal there, so how are you able to smoke it without a medical certificate for it?


Thats what I don't understand. If thats the case it will be fun while it lasts.
But it sounds like a little dirty operation. I'm all for it.

There likely to be caught in due time, it just opened.
I just hope I'm not there when they do !
Why don't we see who is the wizard and play some one on one, I think you'll find me sympathetic to ya when I've won, It seems you've got the brawn to beat me if this was all it takes, But I've got skills to pay the bills and punish each of your mistakes.
ThumperSD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States333 Posts
March 24 2011 01:41 GMT
#8697
It's probably some underground vape lounge
wake up your mind
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 05:22:57
March 24 2011 05:18 GMT
#8698
Landlord is gone till like April 3rd, I'm pretty sure no one is upstairs! ^_______^

GENTLEMEN, IT'S TIME TO GET FUCKING RIPPED

edit: ahh, can't forget to post new song to blaze up to. I haven't heard shit this sick in a while (you won't regret listening ):
+ Show Spoiler +
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
-ty[r]ant
Profile Joined January 2010
United States140 Posts
March 24 2011 06:54 GMT
#8699
On March 24 2011 14:18 Grobyc wrote:
Landlord is gone till like April 3rd, I'm pretty sure no one is upstairs! ^_______^

GENTLEMEN, IT'S TIME TO GET FUCKING RIPPED

edit: ahh, can't forget to post new song to blaze up to. I haven't heard shit this sick in a while (you won't regret listening ):
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9ZyeWjJF7A

YO When I came and found that remix I was so happy, it is such a filthy fucking dub beat

the drop is like... The song is like Japan before the earthquake, and the drop is the big hit. I heard it a while ago thank you for reminding me of that shit.

Also this is solid :

"Yo guys I got this new technique where I enter a preschool and knee a bunch of kids in the face. Nobody there has managed to stop me yet." - Bibbit
tjg92
Profile Joined March 2011
United States100 Posts
March 24 2011 20:27 GMT
#8700
I found a pebble in my weed last night. MY DEALER HAS HELL TO PAY.
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