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whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
August 18 2017 14:34 GMT
#18601
https://twitter.com/L_S_poliisi

Also a local shopping mall Mylly has been evacuated acording to

www.mtv.fi

(Sorry, no english link)
it's not just a music it's something else
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 14:36:44
August 18 2017 14:36 GMT
#18602
On August 18 2017 23:26 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 20:42 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
That's horrible
Worst thing is that it was done obiously by brainwashed people, using old as fuck "religion enlightment" technique.
We all need to get rid of all religions at this point, that's an outdated crap for peasants just like racism, sexism and others.


Yeah getting rid of Judaism, Christiany, Hinduism and Buddhism will surely help.


Maybe learn to read, he said "all", not "some". Getting rid of "all" would surely help.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18438 Posts
August 18 2017 14:40 GMT
#18603
On August 18 2017 23:26 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 20:42 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
That's horrible
Worst thing is that it was done obiously by brainwashed people, using old as fuck "religion enlightment" technique.
We all need to get rid of all religions at this point, that's an outdated crap for peasants just like racism, sexism and others.


Yeah getting rid of Judaism, Christiany, Hinduism and Buddhism will surely help.

Oh, so Islam is now alone in the "bad religion" corner? Because terrorism could only be caused by Islam. And the fact that it is NOW done by Islamic idiots means we should ban Islam, whereas when it was Catholics in the 80s, there was nothing inherently wrong with Catholicism.

And lets say we do outlaw Islam. Ownership of a Koran is now a crime. Everybody must show up for the monthly bacon ball and eat at least 3 slices. Mandatory lunches at high noon during the month of Ramadan. We'll even have the Spanish Inquisition to make sure everybody obeys.

Do you really think terrorism will decrease?!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
August 18 2017 14:49 GMT
#18604


"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
August 18 2017 14:54 GMT
#18605
On August 18 2017 23:40 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 23:26 Jacenoob wrote:
On August 18 2017 20:42 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
That's horrible
Worst thing is that it was done obiously by brainwashed people, using old as fuck "religion enlightment" technique.
We all need to get rid of all religions at this point, that's an outdated crap for peasants just like racism, sexism and others.


Yeah getting rid of Judaism, Christiany, Hinduism and Buddhism will surely help.

Oh, so Islam is now alone in the "bad religion" corner? Because terrorism could only be caused by Islam. And the fact that it is NOW done by Islamic idiots means we should ban Islam, whereas when it was Catholics in the 80s, there was nothing inherently wrong with Catholicism.

And lets say we do outlaw Islam. Ownership of a Koran is now a crime. Everybody must show up for the monthly bacon ball and eat at least 3 slices. Mandatory lunches at high noon during the month of Ramadan. We'll even have the Spanish Inquisition to make sure everybody obeys.

Do you really think terrorism will decrease?!


Well he is advocating getting rid of every Religion all across the world not me. And also being an arrogant prick calling religion "oudated crap", calling all religious people "peasants" and then even comparing religion to sexism and racism.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18438 Posts
August 18 2017 15:10 GMT
#18606
On August 18 2017 23:54 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 23:40 Acrofales wrote:
On August 18 2017 23:26 Jacenoob wrote:
On August 18 2017 20:42 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
That's horrible
Worst thing is that it was done obiously by brainwashed people, using old as fuck "religion enlightment" technique.
We all need to get rid of all religions at this point, that's an outdated crap for peasants just like racism, sexism and others.


Yeah getting rid of Judaism, Christiany, Hinduism and Buddhism will surely help.

Oh, so Islam is now alone in the "bad religion" corner? Because terrorism could only be caused by Islam. And the fact that it is NOW done by Islamic idiots means we should ban Islam, whereas when it was Catholics in the 80s, there was nothing inherently wrong with Catholicism.

And lets say we do outlaw Islam. Ownership of a Koran is now a crime. Everybody must show up for the monthly bacon ball and eat at least 3 slices. Mandatory lunches at high noon during the month of Ramadan. We'll even have the Spanish Inquisition to make sure everybody obeys.

Do you really think terrorism will decrease?!


Well he is advocating getting rid of every Religion all across the world not me. And also being an arrogant prick calling religion "oudated crap", calling all religious people "peasants" and then even comparing religion to sexism and racism.

I reported his post for being utter drivel already. I didn't report yours. Just pointed out the main problems in that kind of thinking.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 18 2017 15:18 GMT
#18607
I mean, you can also ignore the blatant trolling.
passive quaranstream fan
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 15:22:35
August 18 2017 15:21 GMT
#18608
unrelated to the recent events but I think this should be in here as well since it's politics after all even if the timing might be a bit bad:

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrat Party and its allies were enemies of Turkey, and told Turkish voters in Germany not to vote for them in next month's election.

"I am calling on all my countrymen in Germany: the Christian Democrats, SDP, the Green Party are all enemies of Turkey. Support those political parties who are not enemies of Turkey," Erdogan said.


source: www.reuters.com

I feel that's fairly extreme for him to go that far. Not sure if people with turkish origins living in Germany will listen to him but he's basicly telling people to neither vote for the ruling party-bloc nor the opposition the way I understand it? I don't think he'd be a fan or DieLinke or FDP either. Because I don't see DieLinke being chummy with Turkey either and FDP is basicly the third party-wing of Merkels CDU when it comes to the reality of how coalitions will be build...

so all that's left would be AfD or am I forgetting something?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 18 2017 15:28 GMT
#18609
On August 19 2017 00:21 Toadesstern wrote:
unrelated to the recent events but I think this should be in here as well since it's politics after all even if the timing might be a bit bad:

Show nested quote +
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrat Party and its allies were enemies of Turkey, and told Turkish voters in Germany not to vote for them in next month's election.

"I am calling on all my countrymen in Germany: the Christian Democrats, SDP, the Green Party are all enemies of Turkey. Support those political parties who are not enemies of Turkey," Erdogan said.


source: www.reuters.com

I feel that's fairly extreme for him to go that far. Not sure if people with turkish origins living in Germany will listen to him but he's basicly telling people to neither vote for the ruling party-bloc nor the opposition the way I understand it? I don't think he'd be a fan or DieLinke or FDP either. Because I don't see DieLinke being chummy with Turkey either and FDP is basicly the third party-wing of Merkels CDU when it comes to the reality of how coalitions will be build...

so all that's left would be AfD or am I forgetting something?

No, thats all of the relevant parties. However I cant let this opportunity pass to kick the FDP: They are infamous for basically taking a fringe topic where there is a silent majority (who however has more important issues), but a vocal minority who cares about this topic a lot. Recently, their leader suggested to "accept the status quo in crimea when talking to putin". They do not care about ukraine at all, but saw this as a chance to score amoung the pro-russians. There other such examples from earlier elections aswell. I would not be surprised if they do the same to attract pro-Erdogan voters.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 18 2017 15:33 GMT
#18610
On August 19 2017 00:21 Toadesstern wrote:
unrelated to the recent events but I think this should be in here as well since it's politics after all even if the timing might be a bit bad:

Show nested quote +
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrat Party and its allies were enemies of Turkey, and told Turkish voters in Germany not to vote for them in next month's election.

"I am calling on all my countrymen in Germany: the Christian Democrats, SDP, the Green Party are all enemies of Turkey. Support those political parties who are not enemies of Turkey," Erdogan said.


source: www.reuters.com

I feel that's fairly extreme for him to go that far. Not sure if people with turkish origins living in Germany will listen to him but he's basicly telling people to neither vote for the ruling party-bloc nor the opposition the way I understand it? I don't think he'd be a fan or DieLinke or FDP either. Because I don't see DieLinke being chummy with Turkey either and FDP is basicly the third party-wing of Merkels CDU when it comes to the reality of how coalitions will be build...

so all that's left would be AfD or am I forgetting something?

He clearly told his supporters to vote for Die Linke, FDP, AfD or DIE PARTEI - none of them were included in his list. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 18 2017 15:36 GMT
#18611
On August 19 2017 00:21 Toadesstern wrote:
unrelated to the recent events but I think this should be in here as well since it's politics after all even if the timing might be a bit bad:

Show nested quote +
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrat Party and its allies were enemies of Turkey, and told Turkish voters in Germany not to vote for them in next month's election.

"I am calling on all my countrymen in Germany: the Christian Democrats, SDP, the Green Party are all enemies of Turkey. Support those political parties who are not enemies of Turkey," Erdogan said.


source: www.reuters.com

I feel that's fairly extreme for him to go that far. Not sure if people with turkish origins living in Germany will listen to him but he's basicly telling people to neither vote for the ruling party-bloc nor the opposition the way I understand it? I don't think he'd be a fan or DieLinke or FDP either. Because I don't see DieLinke being chummy with Turkey either and FDP is basicly the third party-wing of Merkels CDU when it comes to the reality of how coalitions will be build...

so all that's left would be AfD or am I forgetting something?


It's not about the parties, it's about the stability of the country and him trying to play strong by interfering with elections.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 18 2017 16:03 GMT
#18612
Wasn't die linke also trying to visit the Bundeswehr Base in Turkey? If so, that is a major blunder on his side.
If not then he just mentioned all the parties that criticised Turkey for not letting members of parliament visit.
passive quaranstream fan
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
August 18 2017 16:16 GMT
#18613
twitter.com

Two dead and six wounded. Suspect captured and apparently situation is over for now.
it's not just a music it's something else
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7194 Posts
August 18 2017 16:17 GMT
#18614
Seems like the suspect was working alone. Source: police press conference.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 16:34:49
August 18 2017 16:19 GMT
#18615
On August 18 2017 23:54 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 23:40 Acrofales wrote:
On August 18 2017 23:26 Jacenoob wrote:
On August 18 2017 20:42 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
That's horrible
Worst thing is that it was done obiously by brainwashed people, using old as fuck "religion enlightment" technique.
We all need to get rid of all religions at this point, that's an outdated crap for peasants just like racism, sexism and others.


Yeah getting rid of Judaism, Christiany, Hinduism and Buddhism will surely help.

Oh, so Islam is now alone in the "bad religion" corner? Because terrorism could only be caused by Islam. And the fact that it is NOW done by Islamic idiots means we should ban Islam, whereas when it was Catholics in the 80s, there was nothing inherently wrong with Catholicism.

And lets say we do outlaw Islam. Ownership of a Koran is now a crime. Everybody must show up for the monthly bacon ball and eat at least 3 slices. Mandatory lunches at high noon during the month of Ramadan. We'll even have the Spanish Inquisition to make sure everybody obeys.

Do you really think terrorism will decrease?!


Well he is advocating getting rid of every Religion all across the world not me. And also being an arrogant prick calling religion "oudated crap", calling all religious people "peasants" and then even comparing religion to sexism and racism.


Ma bad you get my words as like I was arrogant, but in reality it was just an honest opinion. My claims has lots of knowledges it based on, but i'm not entirely sure i can post it here without offending belivevers (it's like they are special group of people you cannot argue with) or makind mods mad and getting banned eventually.
I'm okay with religion when it comes to cultural aspect, but not when it comes to real life influence in a different - sometimes unpredictable way, but again, it's just me.

And ofc global society need more fixes on different levels, I just don't understand why some topics keeps forbidden from constructive criticism and discussions, that's not the most efficient way to solve the problems.

I hope I said nothing extrodinary.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 18 2017 16:21 GMT
#18616
On August 19 2017 01:03 Artisreal wrote:
Wasn't die linke also trying to visit the Bundeswehr Base in Turkey? If so, that is a major blunder on his side.
If not then he just mentioned all the parties that criticised Turkey for not letting members of parliament visit.

I think so too, hence me saying that I don't think DieLinke would be all chubby with him either. They also strike me as a party that would be really harsh on Turkey just that they don't matter because opposition and all
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
August 18 2017 17:07 GMT
#18617
On August 19 2017 00:21 Toadesstern wrote:
unrelated to the recent events but I think this should be in here as well since it's politics after all even if the timing might be a bit bad:

Show nested quote +
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrat Party and its allies were enemies of Turkey, and told Turkish voters in Germany not to vote for them in next month's election.

"I am calling on all my countrymen in Germany: the Christian Democrats, SDP, the Green Party are all enemies of Turkey. Support those political parties who are not enemies of Turkey," Erdogan said.


source: www.reuters.com

I feel that's fairly extreme for him to go that far. Not sure if people with turkish origins living in Germany will listen to him but he's basicly telling people to neither vote for the ruling party-bloc nor the opposition the way I understand it? I don't think he'd be a fan or DieLinke or FDP either. Because I don't see DieLinke being chummy with Turkey either and FDP is basicly the third party-wing of Merkels CDU when it comes to the reality of how coalitions will be build...

so all that's left would be AfD or am I forgetting something?

Why are European countries still allied to this guy, seriously
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 18 2017 17:49 GMT
#18618
On August 19 2017 02:07 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 00:21 Toadesstern wrote:
unrelated to the recent events but I think this should be in here as well since it's politics after all even if the timing might be a bit bad:

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrat Party and its allies were enemies of Turkey, and told Turkish voters in Germany not to vote for them in next month's election.

"I am calling on all my countrymen in Germany: the Christian Democrats, SDP, the Green Party are all enemies of Turkey. Support those political parties who are not enemies of Turkey," Erdogan said.


source: www.reuters.com

I feel that's fairly extreme for him to go that far. Not sure if people with turkish origins living in Germany will listen to him but he's basicly telling people to neither vote for the ruling party-bloc nor the opposition the way I understand it? I don't think he'd be a fan or DieLinke or FDP either. Because I don't see DieLinke being chummy with Turkey either and FDP is basicly the third party-wing of Merkels CDU when it comes to the reality of how coalitions will be build...

so all that's left would be AfD or am I forgetting something?

Why are European countries still allied to this guy, seriously

Strategic relevance, mostly.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12163 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-18 18:13:28
August 18 2017 18:06 GMT
#18619
On August 19 2017 02:07 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2017 00:21 Toadesstern wrote:
unrelated to the recent events but I think this should be in here as well since it's politics after all even if the timing might be a bit bad:

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey's President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrat Party and its allies were enemies of Turkey, and told Turkish voters in Germany not to vote for them in next month's election.

"I am calling on all my countrymen in Germany: the Christian Democrats, SDP, the Green Party are all enemies of Turkey. Support those political parties who are not enemies of Turkey," Erdogan said.


source: www.reuters.com

I feel that's fairly extreme for him to go that far. Not sure if people with turkish origins living in Germany will listen to him but he's basicly telling people to neither vote for the ruling party-bloc nor the opposition the way I understand it? I don't think he'd be a fan or DieLinke or FDP either. Because I don't see DieLinke being chummy with Turkey either and FDP is basicly the third party-wing of Merkels CDU when it comes to the reality of how coalitions will be build...

so all that's left would be AfD or am I forgetting something?

Why are European countries still allied to this guy, seriously


Because being enemies with him is much better? Relations has been slowly souring after the previous slow EU approach was cancelled. They are a trade partner, don't do too extreme stuff in most cases. Though since they are slowly sliding away being a trade partner is harder due to the border controls. Can no longer order things from a Turkish supplier and expect it to show up on time, have to have a storage somewhere in EU to handle it being stuck in customs for a week or two.

Best guess from me is that we would have the same discussion regarding the US and Trump if he somehow got to stay in power after his max two terms.

Turkish people are decent people and it is a nice vacation spot due to the much lower prices and relative proximity. No real reason to hate on them in general even if we don't like their current direction. We can sever relations if they hit NK levels.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 18 2017 18:46 GMT
#18620
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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