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bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
May 02 2017 23:00 GMT
#16561
I don't mean to be rude but it never ceases to amaze me just how ignorant this board is of what is actually happening. How can you possibly think the EU has handled the migrant crisis well? How exactly do you see the EU halting the rise of the far right/left? Do you think Macron will be elected, perform magnificently and save the establishment? The truth is that he can't, because the factors fuelling Le Pen's rise are written into the EU Treaties. It's the monetary union and the abolition of real borders, the empowerment of foreign courts and unelected failed politicians, the unending mission creep. It takes a lot to persuade an entire population to vote for such a significant risk, so maybe the EU will be lucky and won't lose any more 'core' members for a while. But the problems are still there, and radicalism and violence are going to keep rising until they are addressed.
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 23:18:38
May 02 2017 23:18 GMT
#16562
Oh wow. One of the things I would say can't be true but it is...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-soldier-syria-refugee-false-flag-terror-attack-posing-arrested-frankfurt-france-bavaria-a7705231.html

Will it be further investigated for possible state involvement? Any German can update?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22073 Posts
May 02 2017 23:25 GMT
#16563
On May 03 2017 08:18 lastpuritan wrote:
Oh wow. One of the things I would say can't be true but it is...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-soldier-syria-refugee-false-flag-terror-attack-posing-arrested-frankfurt-france-bavaria-a7705231.html

Will it be further investigated for possible state involvement? Any German can update?

And what exactly makes you think this was a planned attack on Germany by the German government rather then a lone idiot?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 23:31:07
May 02 2017 23:28 GMT
#16564
I assume he means foreign states.


Reminds me of this but inverted.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22073 Posts
May 02 2017 23:32 GMT
#16565
On May 03 2017 08:28 bardtown wrote:
I assume he means foreign states.

Considering lastpuritans recent posts I'm going to go with no, he means Germany.

It would be hella funny if it was Turkey tho :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 23:38:26
May 02 2017 23:37 GMT
#16566
On May 03 2017 08:25 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2017 08:18 lastpuritan wrote:
Oh wow. One of the things I would say can't be true but it is...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-soldier-syria-refugee-false-flag-terror-attack-posing-arrested-frankfurt-france-bavaria-a7705231.html

Will it be further investigated for possible state involvement? Any German can update?

And what exactly makes you think this was a planned attack on Germany by the German government rather then a lone idiot?


Because I like the idea of neonazi resurrection just for funsies. Jokes aside, I didn't say German government planned it, only asked for investigation? Why are you becoming sensitive this quick.

Turkey already played her part when they planned falseflag operation to Ottoman tomb in Syria by the way.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22073 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 23:43:33
May 02 2017 23:41 GMT
#16567
<Wrong edit button>
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22073 Posts
May 02 2017 23:43 GMT
#16568
On May 03 2017 08:37 lastpuritan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2017 08:25 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2017 08:18 lastpuritan wrote:
Oh wow. One of the things I would say can't be true but it is...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-soldier-syria-refugee-false-flag-terror-attack-posing-arrested-frankfurt-france-bavaria-a7705231.html

Will it be further investigated for possible state involvement? Any German can update?

And what exactly makes you think this was a planned attack on Germany by the German government rather then a lone idiot?


Because I like the idea of neonazi resurrection just for funsies. Jokes aside, I didn't say German government planned it, only asked for investigation? Why are you becoming sensitive this quick.

Turkey already played her part when they planned falseflag operation to Ottoman tomb in Syria by the way.

Well normally when someone plans something insane/stupid most don't start questioning if 'a' government was involved.

But yes I fully assume an investigation into possible additional accomplices will be done as is normal when someone is arrested for an attempted terrorist attack. And when those lead to 'a' government being involved those will be followed through on aswell.
Unless ofcourse it was the German government in which case it will be quickly buried and some dummy will be thrown under the bus.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
May 02 2017 23:43 GMT
#16569
Well it is hard to understand the motive from an individual's perspective. Kill a bunch of people to make refugees look bad... to what end? That has happened already, time and time again in fact, and nothing has changed.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 23:48:47
May 02 2017 23:48 GMT
#16570
we've just had a guy who wanted to blow up the BvB team-bus, blame refugees just to short BvB stock options. Might I suggest that not all of these people are thinking clearly
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
May 02 2017 23:53 GMT
#16571
On May 03 2017 08:43 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2017 08:37 lastpuritan wrote:
On May 03 2017 08:25 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 03 2017 08:18 lastpuritan wrote:
Oh wow. One of the things I would say can't be true but it is...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-soldier-syria-refugee-false-flag-terror-attack-posing-arrested-frankfurt-france-bavaria-a7705231.html

Will it be further investigated for possible state involvement? Any German can update?

And what exactly makes you think this was a planned attack on Germany by the German government rather then a lone idiot?


Because I like the idea of neonazi resurrection just for funsies. Jokes aside, I didn't say German government planned it, only asked for investigation? Why are you becoming sensitive this quick.

Turkey already played her part when they planned falseflag operation to Ottoman tomb in Syria by the way.

Well normally when someone plans something insane/stupid most don't start questioning if 'a' government was involved.

But yes I fully assume an investigation into possible additional accomplices will be done as is normal when someone is arrested for an attempted terrorist attack. And when those lead to 'a' government being involved those will be followed through on aswell.
Unless ofcourse it was the German government in which case it will be quickly buried and some dummy will be thrown under the bus.


Unless that someone is a state official, more importantly a soldier... Of course we hope for the best and expect him to be a lone wolf, however, this alone raises another big concern, how many lone wolves are possibly inside the German Army, who may plan to attack the very nation they pledged to protect, for some "greater good" in their minds?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 03 2017 03:32 GMT
#16572
I don't know how you folks rolling in the EU, but here in the US we have soldiers doing stupid shit all the time and there is never some vast government plot behind it. Doing stupid shit for stupid reasons is the unifying trait all cultures share.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
May 03 2017 05:54 GMT
#16573
On May 03 2017 08:43 bardtown wrote:
Well it is hard to understand the motive from an individual's perspective. Kill a bunch of people to make refugees look bad... to what end? That has happened already, time and time again in fact, and nothing has changed.


people do dumb things all the time, at least in the US. recently there was a guy who's entire plan was basically blow up target and then buy target stock to make himself money.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
May 03 2017 06:00 GMT
#16574
Just another form of financial terrorism. It is quite common at a level just below actually bombing shit.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 03 2017 07:24 GMT
#16575
Has any populist in Europe called for a binding referendum in every EU state over the results of the Brexit-deal yet, or don't they have the balls?
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
May 03 2017 11:26 GMT
#16576
What would be the point in that? A huge expense to get peoples' opinions about something they are not at all interested in? You're going to have enough trouble getting governments to agree in countries like Ireland and France.

Also, you do not hold referenda on technical details. They are for broad constitutional issues.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
May 03 2017 12:17 GMT
#16577
On May 03 2017 20:26 bardtown wrote:
Also, you do not hold referenda on technical details. They are for broad constitutional issues.

That would depend on the country.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 03 2017 12:21 GMT
#16578
In any case, I don't see why this particular thing would demand a referendum in EU countries. Most people in the EU don't have much of a reason to even care about the conditions of the UK leaving and it's gonna be pretty intricate anyway and thus very few of the potential voters would be anyhow informed and the whole thing would just be a big pointless gesture. This kind of deals is exactly what we pay the politicians for, so let them do it.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 03 2017 12:52 GMT
#16579
On May 03 2017 20:26 bardtown wrote:
What would be the point in that? A huge expense to get peoples' opinions about something they are not at all interested in? You're going to have enough trouble getting governments to agree in countries like Ireland and France.

Also, you do not hold referenda on technical details. They are for broad constitutional issues.


Don't ask me what the point of populists is. I am just here to mock them and their hypocrisy.

Also I don't consider these technical details. Not that I am for holding referenda because of it, but that's a different reasoning.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-03 13:40:15
May 03 2017 13:38 GMT
#16580
On May 03 2017 08:43 bardtown wrote:
Well it is hard to understand the motive from an individual's perspective. Kill a bunch of people to make refugees look bad... to what end? That has happened already, time and time again in fact, and nothing has changed.

Some right wing radicals just crave to use the methods of radical Islam. Just read Anders Breivik, he is secretly in love with Jihad. Radical nationalists and Islamists have a lot in common, and it's not that surprising, really.
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