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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 04 2006 00:47 GMT
#61
"1/3rd of women under the age of 20 have experienced at least one pregnancy"

okay what the hell TT_TT
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
December 04 2006 00:52 GMT
#62
the condoms are probably low quality :|, at least thats how it happens here in mexico.
Teamliquidian townie
SCNewb
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada2210 Posts
December 04 2006 00:55 GMT
#63
I think its a good idea if the number of people with STD's drop
Huge iloveOov fan
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
December 04 2006 01:08 GMT
#64
On December 04 2006 09:43 Tadzio00 wrote:
Use your tax dollars on free condoms, or on welfare moms? You decide!


perhaps we should spend some money on both?

I mean, more condoms means less single-parent-mothers-without-education on welfare?

good yes?
Happiness only real when shared.
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-04 01:18:17
December 04 2006 01:08 GMT
#65
I think condoms are less expensive than paying welfare for fucking 19 year old kids who have babies. A lot of you guys arguing this issue don't pay taxes, but some of us do, and it's a much better use of our tax money.

Also, it's been shown that abstinence-only sex education does not work. Contraception, on the other hand, does. I live in Hawaii, and my school had the highest STD rate (70 something percent of sexually active senior blood donors, but it's a statistical inaccuracy because most people gave blood specifically to be tested for STDs for free). We had a daycare that was usually full of upwards of 30 kids while the mothers attended class. Shit, we should be making condoms available to everyone freely. That way my tax money doesn't go to fucking daycare at a public high school, and can instead be spent upon better educational institutions or cleaning up the city or something good.

Who the fuck cares if your views are against premarital sex? Haven't you noticed by now that a lot of kids' views aren't? Just because you wouldn't do it definitely does not mean that they won't.
I live in perpetual fear of terrorists and studio gangsters
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-04 01:21:59
December 04 2006 01:13 GMT
#66
On December 04 2006 07:53 NeverTheEndlessWiz wrote:
Its almost like giving drug addicts free needles and syringes so that they will not get HIV or Hep

They do this. It dropped the spread of HIV and Hep B by like 80% within 2 years or something in NY. Read The Tipping Point by Malcom Gladwell. I'm pretty sure it's in the chapter on connectors.

Again, you shouldn't be against something that improves the quality of life for everyone as a whole just because you're too blind to see the positive effects behind helping out drug users or people who choose to have premarital sex. Goddamn, get over it already. People have sex and use drugs, and there's life after both of them.
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5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-04 01:24:24
December 04 2006 01:17 GMT
#67
On December 04 2006 03:12 LeoTheLion wrote:
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On December 04 2006 02:06 DarkGhost]Coon[ wrote:
On December 04 2006 01:46 LeoTheLion wrote:
I'm sure the lack of access to condoms (lack of money, not wanting the embarassment from the store, etc) and the fear of pregnancy stops some teens from having sex. It may not be an overwhelming amount, but there are still a few. If you eliminate this barrier by distributing condoms freely in schools, this number will increase. And with the main message of safe sex education being abstinence, giving away contraceptives would kind of undermine this message, no?

Do you also argue that the D.A.R.E. program works?


I'I haven't touched drugs in my life, and my parents never talked to me about them. I'm grateful that in elementary school, I was taught that drugs are "bad". So yes, it did work for me. Maybe it doesn't work for everyone, but nothing does.

Well, the thing is, drugs aren't all that bad. You won't give my statement any credence because of D.A.R.E., but believe me when I say that as long as you have a healthy relationship with drugs, they're fine. Just like sex - if you practice safe, healthy sex, there are no problems. Two of the biggest failures of the education system have been abstinence-only sex education and the "Just say no" drug program. They don't work. Why isn't it "Just say KNOW"? That way, kids who would get into drugs anyway would know what they're getting into, and would control their use much better, and go on to lead healthy lives using drugs (not abusing). On the upside, both of these programs have largely been suspended due to lack of effectiveness.

And isn't there something in the foundation of America about "... certain inalienable rights, and among them are life, liberty, and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS"? Drugs aren't that bad if you're healthy about it.
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gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2795 Posts
December 04 2006 01:28 GMT
#68
I cant see why people dont like this? It´s for YOUR best.
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
December 04 2006 01:31 GMT
#69
Not to bash the foundation of the United States, but I've always found the phrase "pursuit of happiness" a bit of idealistic hyperbole. Surely Jefferson did not want to see people like chibi in the "pursuit of happiness."
ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
December 04 2006 01:32 GMT
#70
Well said Moltke.
Well said & agreed.
Sean.G
Profile Joined October 2004
Spain889 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-04 01:36:11
December 04 2006 01:35 GMT
#71
On December 04 2006 08:59 ToT)Testie( wrote:
Eh, just educate the damn kids.
We're not wasting $ on free condoms for the punks. If you're not man enough to buy the shit, you aren't allowed to have sex.


I agree that it's best people buy their condoms themselves, but some people don't, and just because they don't doesn't mean they won't have sex. In other words, girls will get pregnant.. that's why it's better if for example the school distributes them.

As someone else said, it also makes it more "natural" and "normal" to have protected sex.

"He is fighting in this match like we've never seen a terran player fight before. He is fighting as hard as Orlando Bloom fights for the affections of Keira Knightly in Pirates of the Caribbean 3, and hopefully he'll have more success" - Klazart
Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
December 04 2006 01:38 GMT
#72
handing out condoms doesnt mean more kids will have sex. i dont know if you guys remember high school, but i remember only the theatre kids and the football team ever got laid. being part of the theatre kids group, i know that they would have sex regardless of condoms or things like that. its not like handing out condoms makes kids have sex more. if nobodys going to have sex with you in the first place, having a condom doesnt make you get laid more. i had a 6 pack of condoms in my wallet in case of emergency and i never had to use them once.

lol of course i was a fat nerd in high school.

everyone gets laid in college, even a nerdy nolife asshole like me who plays computer games. its the truth folks. stay in school and go to college.
Legalize drugs and murder.
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-04 01:45:34
December 04 2006 01:38 GMT
#73
On December 04 2006 10:31 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Not to bash the foundation of the United States, but I've always found the phrase "pursuit of happiness" a bit of idealistic hyperbole. Surely Jefferson did not want to see people like chibi in the "pursuit of happiness."

Hyperbole it may be, but the purpose of a hyperbole is to place emphasis on the statement, and I'm pretty sure that's what they wanted. The means to pursue happiness is one of those things that they think everyone should have - nay, are born with - and should not be taken away, just like life and liberty (which is one of the most widely interpreted statements ever, I know). And America as a country, thus, was founded on these ideals.

And yes, everyone gets laid in college, seriously. It's almost retarded - BUT IT'S GREAT. Stay in school.
I live in perpetual fear of terrorists and studio gangsters
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
December 04 2006 01:57 GMT
#74
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MannerGent
Profile Joined November 2005
United States326 Posts
December 04 2006 02:05 GMT
#75
On December 04 2006 06:14 Dametri wrote:
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On December 04 2006 06:12 bearnet2001 wrote:
Yo as long as they are distributin' extra-large it's cool with me.

Just make sure your partner knows how to put it on, or it might slip off when he's banging you in the boys' room stalls.

rofl
You think scooby care about solving mystery? no, all scooby care about, is scooby snack.
Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
December 04 2006 02:10 GMT
#76
On December 04 2006 10:57 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
other statistics indicate 1/3 of american women have been sexually abused as a child. and something like...a _huge_ % of 8th graders have done drugs. stuff people just dont know..


which people dont know this? i know i started doing drugs when i was 12-13 which is 7th grade i think. i guess you mean the older people?
curious.
Legalize drugs and murder.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
December 04 2006 02:14 GMT
#77
People shouldn't post statistics without sources unless they want to look like complete fools.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
December 04 2006 02:14 GMT
#78
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Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
December 04 2006 02:15 GMT
#79
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
December 04 2006 02:28 GMT
#80
On December 04 2006 09:47 thedeadhaji wrote:
"1/3rd of women under the age of 20 have experienced at least one pregnancy"

okay what the hell TT_TT


pregnancy doesn't equal children.

miscarriage and other natural causes means 75% of pregnancies don't actually go through

then there's abortion, etc.
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