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On November 09 2013 20:02 ne0lith wrote:
How do you refuse draws in chess? Do you give your opponent the finger when they offer to shake your hand or how?
If your opponent offers you a draw, the way to refuse it is by making a move. There are also technical ways to draw including stalemate, threefold repetition (repeating a position 3 times with the same person to move), and the game going 50 moves without a pawn move or piece capture.
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On November 09 2013 20:02 ne0lith wrote:
How do you refuse draws in chess? Do you give your opponent the finger when they offer to shake your hand or how?
If the position occurs 3 times on the board you can draw by force by calling 3fold repetition as was the case here.
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The production of this is amazingggg.
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On November 09 2013 20:02 ne0lith wrote:
How do you refuse draws in chess? Do you give your opponent the finger when they offer to shake your hand or how?
This wasnt just a normal draw right but because of repetition. So i assume the only way to avoid the draw would have been for Carlson to make a different move which would have been disadvantaged.
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I'm raging. what a boring game  lol
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On November 09 2013 20:05 -Kaiser- wrote:
The production of this is amazingggg.
Wow such production, very wow, nice...
Lol! Its the world championships of chess, I mean come on!
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I was expecting them to play in a convention in the center of everyone ( eg: WWE) and have a referee standing beside.
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is there a play through game by someone of the first game?
i missed it D:
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On November 09 2013 20:10 acinx wrote:
is there a play through game by someone of the first game?
i missed it D:
Anand is doing it now for you :p, only you can't see the game 
Edit: here you can see the moves: http://www.chessdom.com/carlsen-anand-2013-live/
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On November 09 2013 20:10 acinx wrote:
is there a play through game by someone of the first game?
i missed it D:
Carlsen opened poorly and Anand forced a quick draw.
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So do the players decide how many games they will play on any given day?
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cool thanks
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On November 09 2013 20:12 AC3 wrote:
So do the players decide how many games they will play on any given day?
No, it's one game per day and a few rest days in between. Schedule is in the op.
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Anand played very cool and collected - he understand how to undermine the Reti with sharp quick play immediately after development. It ended up betraying Magnus' expectations and was unable to utilize his advantageous strength and talent in the midgame.
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Lol, Anand does not have his mic on, why are they not checking these things. Or the red light is broken ofc
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On November 09 2013 20:04 Aelfric wrote:Carlsen has no choice really, his position was bad so he had to repeat the move and Anand playing any other move was meaning he will lose the forever advantageous play so he choose to repeat the moves.
you think i don't understand why it happened???
chose a fcking other line earlier to prevent this or just take a fcking chance with b5 or something!
there were so many other options before...
i don't get 11. c5 but hey, i'm not Carlsen.
at least Anand should have steared clear from a possible repetition on 12 ... Nd5 maybe with Ne4
he had the better position, why give the opportunity of a draw to the opponent?
if yo don't have something special planned than Nd5 practically forces the draw (which is btw a fine result in general with black, but come on!)
that's why I called him a pussy and Carlsen too for getting into a slightly worse position as white.
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On November 09 2013 20:15 KingPaddy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 20:12 AC3 wrote:
So do the players decide how many games they will play on any given day? No, it's one game per day and a few rest days in between. Schedule is in the op.
Ok thanks for the heads up.
Reading all the discussion in this thread over the past week has got me into trying to find out more about Chess. Like many here, I know the rules, but really only have a rudimentary idea of strategy. Interesting to follow, despite not being able to appreciate the subtleties of such a high level match.
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On November 09 2013 20:17 mihajovics wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 20:04 Aelfric wrote:On November 09 2013 20:02 mihajovics wrote:
16 move draw???
what pussies Carlsen has no choice really, his position was bad so he had to repeat the move and Anand playing any other move was meaning he will lose the forever advantageous play so he choose to repeat the moves. you think i don't understand why it happened??? chose a fcking other line earlier to prevent this or just take a fcking chance with b5 or something! there were so many other options before... i don't get 11. c5 but hey, i'm not Carlsen. at least Anand should have steared clear from a possible repetion on 12 ... Nd5 maybe with Ne4 he had the better position, why give the opportunity of a draw to the opponent? that's why I called him a pussy and Carlsen for getting into a slightly worse position as white.
What else can he play besides c5? He needs to do something about his pawn being attacked on c4. How is 12...Ne4 an improvement?
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On November 09 2013 20:17 mihajovics wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 20:04 Aelfric wrote:On November 09 2013 20:02 mihajovics wrote:
16 move draw???
what pussies Carlsen has no choice really, his position was bad so he had to repeat the move and Anand playing any other move was meaning he will lose the forever advantageous play so he choose to repeat the moves. you think i don't understand why it happened??? chose a fcking other line earlier to prevent this or just take a fcking chance with b5 or something! there were so many other options before... i don't get 11. c5 but hey, i'm not Carlsen. at least Anand should have steared clear from a possible repetition on 12 ... Nd5 maybe with Ne4 he had the better position, why give the opportunity of a draw to the opponent? if yo don't have something special planned than Nd5 practically forces the draw (which is btw a fine result in general with black, but come on!) that's why I called him a pussy and Carlsen too for getting into a slightly worse position as white.
It's first game. Like Anand says they are just exchanging information in a sense. You don't want to risk losing shitton of money from the start just to entartain people.
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On November 09 2013 20:26 Aelfric wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 20:17 mihajovics wrote:On November 09 2013 20:04 Aelfric wrote:On November 09 2013 20:02 mihajovics wrote:
16 move draw???
what pussies Carlsen has no choice really, his position was bad so he had to repeat the move and Anand playing any other move was meaning he will lose the forever advantageous play so he choose to repeat the moves. you think i don't understand why it happened??? chose a fcking other line earlier to prevent this or just take a fcking chance with b5 or something! there were so many other options before... i don't get 11. c5 but hey, i'm not Carlsen. at least Anand should have steared clear from a possible repetition on 12 ... Nd5 maybe with Ne4 he had the better position, why give the opportunity of a draw to the opponent? if yo don't have something special planned than Nd5 practically forces the draw (which is btw a fine result in general with black, but come on!) that's why I called him a pussy and Carlsen too for getting into a slightly worse position as white. It's first game. Like Anand says they are just exchanging information in a sense. You don't want to risk losing shitton of money from the start just to entartain people.
I guess there is bit more on the line than just the money...
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