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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 17 2014 13:53 GMT
#1101
Clock's close to irrelevant this game. This is a real game now though. Not sure if I should already be cheering for the finishing blow.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 17 2014 14:13 GMT
#1102
This two connected passed pawns ending looks worse for Black than the engine seems to suggest...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 14:18:07
November 17 2014 14:17 GMT
#1103
Engines seem to think that the Bxg4 bailout Svidler's suggesting is losing which would make Rf8 the only option (and a pretty sad one).

edit: He played it. I don't think this will end well for Vishy.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
November 17 2014 14:21 GMT
#1104
4 mins per move is a hellot of pressure. Damn.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
November 17 2014 14:24 GMT
#1105
Watching now. I've been playing a lot of chess with my friends on my phone recently.

Chess is so damn sick
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
November 17 2014 14:24 GMT
#1106
This is so weird from Vishy. Giving up a pawn in the form of a Bishop on an open board. He must have really hated what he saw down the passed pawn line.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 17 2014 14:25 GMT
#1107
On November 17 2014 23:24 Aylear wrote:
This is so weird from Vishy. Giving up a pawn in the form of a Bishop on an open board. He must have really hated what he saw down the passed pawn line.

the ending with two connected passed pawns did look pretty icky.

Dunno if this is any better though...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 14:45:02
November 17 2014 14:42 GMT
#1108
That stupid 26.Kd2 blunder might have won Carlsen the Championship, it totally destroyed Anand's confidence -_-
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
November 17 2014 14:44 GMT
#1109
pls draw vishy
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 17 2014 14:45 GMT
#1110
My computer eval is flatlining somewhat, which might hint at this being drawish. Computer analysis is not particularly useful in analysing endgames like this though. Caruana apparently also tweeted that he thinks it's a draw.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 17 2014 14:47 GMT
#1111
On November 17 2014 23:45 Orome wrote:
My computer eval is flatlining somewhat, which might hint at this being drawish. Computer analysis is not particularly useful in analysing endgames like this though. Caruana apparently also tweeted that he thinks it's a draw.

it does look drawish, but if anyone can win this it's Carlsen
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
November 17 2014 15:05 GMT
#1112
Yah this looks extremely drawish/1-dimensional now.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 17 2014 15:09 GMT
#1113
It's definitely not *extremely* drawish.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 15:18:20
November 17 2014 15:18 GMT
#1114
No definitely not, Carlsen still has play and can put pressure on the 7th rank with extremely careful play.

Most people would draw here, but Carlsen is great at the endgame. If you're analyzing this position with computers they're also prone to being wrong since they're pretty bad at doing end-game positional analysis, so don't count on an engine saying draw.
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 17 2014 15:21 GMT
#1115
If there's anyone watching the video feed a live report of the press conference would be much appreciated.
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
November 17 2014 15:26 GMT
#1116
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 17 2014 15:28 GMT
#1117
On November 18 2014 00:26 Laertes wrote:
This ending is winning for black. Anand might not win though.

This post is very wrong and also correct.

Well done.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 15:35:44
November 17 2014 15:34 GMT
#1118
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 17 2014 15:38 GMT
#1119
On November 18 2014 00:34 Laertes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 00:28 marvellosity wrote:
On November 18 2014 00:26 Laertes wrote:
This ending is winning for black. Anand might not win though.

This post is very wrong and also correct.

Well done.


If vishy plays Rd2 and Rd4 he will defend and if he defends Carlsen will lose the pawn storm battle. I'm telling you that the ending is won for black.

EDIT: He should have taken the chance to trade off the rooks and storm.

Anand would win this endgame approximately 0/100 times against any grandmaster.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
November 17 2014 15:39 GMT
#1120
On November 18 2014 00:34 Laertes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 00:28 marvellosity wrote:
On November 18 2014 00:26 Laertes wrote:
This ending is winning for black. Anand might not win though.

This post is very wrong and also correct.

Well done.


If vishy plays Rd2 and Rd4 he will defend and if he defends Carlsen will lose the pawn storm battle. I'm telling you that the ending is won for black.

EDIT: He should have taken the chance to trade off the rooks and storm.

This is incredibly, hilariously wrong.
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