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This may actually open up for a lot of lawsuits against citizens in Sweden.
Earlier this year they had a "lead-case" (a case that eventually leads to the view courts will have on similiar cases in the future) about the above mentioned swedish film "HipHipHora". The problem for the industry was that the verdict only came to fine and not anything worse (i.e jail, community service etc).
And the problem for the industry is not the "light" sentence, cause 16000 SEK (aprox 2500 USD) is quite a lot for uploading/downloading 1 film but the fact that the case was considered a "lesser" crime. Therefor could the swedish police NOT acquire IP-adresses legaly just by suspecting anyone for the crime.
And to really be able to catch the uploaders/downloaders (yes in sweden from 1st of July last year uploading or downloading copyrighted material is considered the same) the police need the ip-adresses.
But if this Piratebay have all this information (you tell me I know nothing about how torrents really work), all these IP-adresses then maybe, just maybe, the police got all the information they need to bust a lot of people.
Scary scenario isn't ? Probobly won't happend but you never know.
But really isn't about time artists, filmmakers,gamedevelopers etc actually get paid for what they do, don't you think? 
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On May 31 2006 07:49 sdpgposd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2006 06:38 pubbanana wrote:
Well, atleast the real criminals are being brought to justice. its not about that its about stopping it from going on so much in the future.
Yeah, okay.
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On May 31 2006 13:46 Drowsy wrote:lolollolololol
i just noticed, it was written in 2005
yeah.. they're fucked.
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On May 31 2006 12:15 superjoppe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2006 10:01 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
stop posting links to torrent sites please. Anyway from what I've read and heard they took all the servers, including the server of sister site "piratbyrån" (a political want-to-be party speaking about freedom of filesharing), but unless they find actual pirated material on the servers they can't do much. Piratebay don't log anything about users either.
The swedish "antipiratbyran" (www.antipiratbyran.se), the organisation against piracy in sweden, had their website defaced as a response to the massive razzia on piratebay. The front page now say "Welcome to the internet. We have the power" - They took all the servers - Antipiratbyråns url is http://www.antipiratbyran.com (slow for the moment, prolly dosed by some scriptkiddie)
Yup, http://www.antipiratbyran.se/ has been the way it is now since 2005 when it was hacked by AUH.
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Rougly 1M of the Swedish people share... We need bigger jails...
Trouble is by taking one here and there to scare the population into obedience, I find it scary and I look at the future with less hope of being free.
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lol, i hate how they act like the music industry has been irreversibly damaged by file sharing. Because those singers really needed that couple extra million....for that house in miami.
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It doesn't matter how much money they make, they are not getting their full potential.
If you were making $1000 a week, and I just came along and took $300 a week from you, from the money you earned with your skills and talents, and just took it away. I'm sure you'd be upset too.
Record sales have never been the main source of revenue for artists, even before piracy it wasn't a big thing, now it's rediculous, the record company gets most of the cut for that, unless of course you have produced your own album, then yeah..
But then again, albums are too expensive, if I buy all the albums of all the bands I like, I'm sure I'd be in the poor house in no time, I'm not an advocate for these anti-piracy associations, but I can understand where they are coming from, but I am never going to stop getting free music while I can.
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Doesn't really say much, since thats just one day. Could just be the day, or any number of other factors. Not to mention, that site was not hosting anywhere near half the torrents in the world. They had quite a few, granted, but not that many.
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
I'm just glad they waited until 24 and Prison Break ended. I miss a lot of episodes and I wouldn't even bother watching the show anymore if it wasn't for TPB.
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To whichever music labels are behind getting this raid done (cough lobbyists), I say
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Sweden33723 Posts
WTF.
WT
ADFIUASGDISf
Vita huset bakom sajtstängning
Det var den amerikanska regeringen som direkt låg bakom att tre unga män greps för fildelning i Sverige i går, enligt uppgifter till Rapport. Vita huset pressade den svenska regeringen att ingripa, trots att polisen inte tyckte att det fanns lagliga skäl att agera.
Translation:
"The White House behind closure of site
It was the american government which was directly responsible for the arrest of three young men for filesharing in sweden yesterday, according to information given to Rapport (means report, it's basically a news broadcast). The White House put pressure on the swedish government to do something despite the opinion of the police that they did not have legal grounds to act"
http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=52447&a=602092 Link to the clip (it's the first one)..
It's 3 am, I'm not going to translate it all now but this is sad.. Basically -> MPAA puts pressure on the White House, the White House puts pressure on our government.. And like the mother fucking piece of fucking shit lapdogs they've proved to be in the past, they caved and decided to throw all civil rights out the window, hurrah!
Pff, who needs LEGAL GROUNDS when it's uncle double-uuh calling =_=
Rapport = News broadcast of SVT which you can read about here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveriges_Television if you want to find out WHO is reporting this.
Sure, this could all be bullshit.. Or it could not.
"Ja, jag är nöjd med att polisen har börjat arbeta med den här typen av ärenden. Samtidigt har ju vi på Antipiratbyrån i första hand agerat gentemot den upphovsrättsfientliga organisationen Piratbyrån, som ligger bakom sajten. The Pirate Bay är mer i botten på kedjan, även om den skada som sajten har orsakat är mycket omfattande."
- Henrik Pontén (from the swedish equivalent of the MPAA)
"Yes I am happy that the police has started handling this type of cases. At the same time, we at the Anti-pirate bureau have primarily acted against the Pirate bureau (which is a legitimate political party..), the authors of the site. The pirate bay is lower in the food say, even though that's not to say the damage it has caused isn't extensive"
Probably a biased quote since it's from the Pirate Bureau blog :-) http://piratbyran.blogspot.com/
But I prefer their kind of biased to nazi-bias, personally.
Although of course, it's been denied by our minister of justice (not sure what it's called) - he's the one accused. A couple of parties have already reported him, but I guess that doesn't say much as it might just be an effort to gain popularity 
Oh well. It's a strange case whatever the facts.
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On May 31 2006 06:03 Ceril wrote:Well anyhow this apparently happened: Sux
As one of the largest trackers, ThePirateBay.org largely replaced the demise of the SuprNova.org search engine. SuprNova.org met its demise in late 2004, when it was under pressure from the entertainment industry to shut it operation down. Conversely, such pressure has been ineffective against ThePiratebay.org.
When such political pressure fails, the use of force is typically the next course of action. In a move that many thought would never come, Slyck.com have learned ThePirateBay.org is currently being raided by Swedish police.
Its a sad day for the free world.
Currently a sad day for the leechers.
My "friend" like how that site had user comments for each torrent.
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About time. Since when does a 1st world country allow a site that facilities massive theft. It is simply unfair. I am most shocked that so many gamers seem to be indifferent or supportive of piracy. If game makers cannot stop piracy then they will simply stop making games that are susceptible to piracy.
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ThePirateBay was just a search engine for torrents, they didn't pirate or steal anything
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For the most part, the Bush administration is fucking incompetent on technology policy.
As for The Pirate Bay, really sucks that it's down but from what I understand they've done nothing illegal they'll be back up soon.
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I am well aware of that which is why I wrote:
Since when does a 1st world country allow a site that facilities massive theft.
If you are a medium through which one might hire thieves, for example, you are still culpable. Likewise, if you host torrents you are still culpable. They're trying to exploit legal loopholes, I'm sure they would actually host the files if they could get away with it (and if it were a better solution than torrents, which it would not be).
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i used to use this site, but i prefer english so i use torrentspy instead. according to their website though, they should be back up in a couple of days
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Sweden33723 Posts
On June 01 2006 18:48 Hippopotamus wrote:
About time. Since when does a 1st world country allow a site that facilities massive theft. It is simply unfair. I am most shocked that so many gamers seem to be indifferent or supportive of piracy. If game makers cannot stop piracy then they will simply stop making games that are susceptible to piracy.
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Except thepiratebay wasn't doing anything wrong according to our law - they were hosting a bittorrent tracker, not any copyrighted files (the torrent hash files are not copyrighted -_-)..
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