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Hong Kong9172 Posts
On March 05 2013 14:51 dAPhREAk wrote:azubu is a registered corporation (assuming this is a related corp). i couldnt find twitch so they may be under a different name, or they arent registered in California to do business. Entity Name: AZUBU NORTH AMERICA INC. Entity Number: C3523560 Date Filed: 12/12/2012 Status: ACTIVE Jurisdiction: DELAWARE Entity Address: 1639 11TH STREET Entity City, State, Zip: SANTA MONICA CA 90404 Agent for Service of Process: C T CORPORATION SYSTEM Agent Address: 818 W SEVENTH ST Agent City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90017 http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/
On March 05 2013 14:55 dAPhREAk wrote:
soemone pointed out twitch is owned by justin.tv
Entity Name: JUSTIN.TV, INC.
Entity Number: C2794497
Date Filed: 12/29/2006
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Entity Address: 47 LUSK ST
Entity City, State, Zip: SAN FRANCISCO CA 94107
Agent for Service of Process: MICHAEL SEIBEL
Agent Address: 47 LUSK ST
Agent City, State, Zip: SAN FRANCISCO CA 94107
regarding the above, that they are both incorporated in delaware doesnt mean much, as it's a popular state for incorporation based on their tax law
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On March 05 2013 14:56 itsjustatank wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 14:51 dAPhREAk wrote:azubu is a registered corporation (assuming this is a related corp). i couldnt find twitch so they may be under a different name, or they arent registered in California to do business. Entity Name: AZUBU NORTH AMERICA INC. Entity Number: C3523560 Date Filed: 12/12/2012 Status: ACTIVE Jurisdiction: DELAWARE Entity Address: 1639 11TH STREET Entity City, State, Zip: SANTA MONICA CA 90404 Agent for Service of Process: C T CORPORATION SYSTEM Agent Address: 818 W SEVENTH ST Agent City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90017 http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/ Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 14:55 dAPhREAk wrote:
soemone pointed out twitch is owned by justin.tv
Entity Name: JUSTIN.TV, INC.
Entity Number: C2794497
Date Filed: 12/29/2006
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Entity Address: 47 LUSK ST
Entity City, State, Zip: SAN FRANCISCO CA 94107
Agent for Service of Process: MICHAEL SEIBEL
Agent Address: 47 LUSK ST
Agent City, State, Zip: SAN FRANCISCO CA 94107 regarding the above, that they are both incorporated in delaware doesnt mean much, as it's a popular state for incorporation based on their tax law
i was merely pointing out that they are separately incorporated (assuming the first is Azubu.tv) so your first theory is unlikely. as for the second theory, i wouldnt be surprised. foreign corporations are pretty sloppy and dont want to hire a local transactional attorney for something like this when they can just steal a competitors. even if they hired twitch/justin's attorney, they would have received the same work product.
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Hong Kong9172 Posts
fair enough, i just presented all the options I think exist for the given situation
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Australia7069 Posts
why is Azubu bothering with TOS?
They specifically state you can do anything.
anything at all.
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Lol. Abuzu.tv redirects me to Twitch.tv
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The only thing that limits you at azubu is yourself.
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I'm 99% sure that Azubu copy+pasted Twitch's TOS. Pretty funny imo
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Up until 2 days ago, Azubu's ToS was just the bottom 4 paragraphs of their current ToS. They're grossly incompetent, and copy-pasted Twitch's ToS and find-replaced 'Twitch.tv' with 'AZUBU.TV'. Pretty much 100% sure of this. If you have an account on Azubu, you should make sure your password is something different from every other site you use, I wouldn't trust their security practices.
Since I'm sure many of you are lazy, the below embedded image tag has now changed your password on Azubu to 'AZUBU' (if you're logged in in the same browser session). You're welcome!
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On March 05 2013 15:29 tec27 wrote:Up until 2 days ago, Azubu's ToS was just the bottom 4 paragraphs of their current ToS. They're grossly incompetent, and copy-pasted Twitch's ToS and find-replaced 'Twitch.tv' with 'AZUBU.TV'. Pretty much 100% sure of this. If you have an account on Azubu, you should make sure your password is something different from every other site you use, I wouldn't trust their security practices. Since I'm sure many of you are lazy, the below embedded image tag has now changed your password on Azubu to 'AZUBU' (if you're logged in in the same browser session). You're welcome!
I would be scared of you for doing stuff like this :D
But yeah no one has ever figured out where this money comes from which made me always scared also about all the players they signed. Hopefully they won't lose their home in cca 6 months.
Btw I just checked their site, it's a terrible UI, and experience, I couldn't even open more streams on new tabs :-(
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Hong Kong9172 Posts
twitch has made an official statement about this:
updated the OP
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Regarding the updated op it seems that even Copy & Paste correctly is hard...or perhaps they did it a little to perfect...?
O_o
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lol, embarrassing for Azubu. I sense a big boo.
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Azubu is just some money laundering business. No doubt it'll all just a massive cover-up for the true shenanigans they are doing.
But why the hell would there be anything related to twitch.tv in terms of service.....?
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On March 05 2013 15:41 MrBitter wrote:
lol, embarrassing for Azubu. I sense a big boo.
Drug cartels are LITERALLY killing esports with money laundering.
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Hong Kong9172 Posts
let's stay out of potentially libelous speculation here guys
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truth is a defense to defamation claims.
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On March 05 2013 15:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Lol. Abuzu.tv redirects me to Twitch.tv
wait, what?
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On March 05 2013 16:01 Mittens wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 15:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Lol. Abuzu.tv redirects me to Twitch.tv wait, what?
Try it. Clever clever move from twitch.
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Katowice25012 Posts
That wasn't twitch that did that.
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