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Azubu has nothing to do with Justin.tv/Twitch.tv. This is what happens when you copy and paste legal disclaimers without find/replacing properly.
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 05:57:46
March 05 2013 05:56 GMT
#21
On March 05 2013 14:51 dAPhREAk wrote:
azubu is a registered corporation (assuming this is a related corp). i couldnt find twitch so they may be under a different name, or they arent registered in California to do business.

Entity Name: AZUBU NORTH AMERICA INC.
Entity Number: C3523560
Date Filed: 12/12/2012
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Entity Address: 1639 11TH STREET
Entity City, State, Zip: SANTA MONICA CA 90404
Agent for Service of Process: C T CORPORATION SYSTEM
Agent Address: 818 W SEVENTH ST
Agent City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90017
http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/


On March 05 2013 14:55 dAPhREAk wrote:
soemone pointed out twitch is owned by justin.tv

Entity Name: JUSTIN.TV, INC.
Entity Number: C2794497
Date Filed: 12/29/2006
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Entity Address: 47 LUSK ST
Entity City, State, Zip: SAN FRANCISCO CA 94107
Agent for Service of Process: MICHAEL SEIBEL
Agent Address: 47 LUSK ST
Agent City, State, Zip: SAN FRANCISCO CA 94107


regarding the above, that they are both incorporated in delaware doesnt mean much, as it's a popular state for incorporation based on their tax law
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 05 2013 06:03 GMT
#22
On March 05 2013 14:56 itsjustatank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 14:51 dAPhREAk wrote:
azubu is a registered corporation (assuming this is a related corp). i couldnt find twitch so they may be under a different name, or they arent registered in California to do business.

Entity Name: AZUBU NORTH AMERICA INC.
Entity Number: C3523560
Date Filed: 12/12/2012
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Entity Address: 1639 11TH STREET
Entity City, State, Zip: SANTA MONICA CA 90404
Agent for Service of Process: C T CORPORATION SYSTEM
Agent Address: 818 W SEVENTH ST
Agent City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 90017
http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/


Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 14:55 dAPhREAk wrote:
soemone pointed out twitch is owned by justin.tv

Entity Name: JUSTIN.TV, INC.
Entity Number: C2794497
Date Filed: 12/29/2006
Status: ACTIVE
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Entity Address: 47 LUSK ST
Entity City, State, Zip: SAN FRANCISCO CA 94107
Agent for Service of Process: MICHAEL SEIBEL
Agent Address: 47 LUSK ST
Agent City, State, Zip: SAN FRANCISCO CA 94107


regarding the above, that they are both incorporated in delaware doesnt mean much, as it's a popular state for incorporation based on their tax law

i was merely pointing out that they are separately incorporated (assuming the first is Azubu.tv) so your first theory is unlikely. as for the second theory, i wouldnt be surprised. foreign corporations are pretty sloppy and dont want to hire a local transactional attorney for something like this when they can just steal a competitors. even if they hired twitch/justin's attorney, they would have received the same work product.
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9154 Posts
March 05 2013 06:07 GMT
#23
fair enough, i just presented all the options I think exist for the given situation
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
March 05 2013 06:11 GMT
#24
why is Azubu bothering with TOS?

They specifically state you can do anything.

anything at all.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 05 2013 06:12 GMT
#25
Lol. Abuzu.tv redirects me to Twitch.tv
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 05 2013 06:21 GMT
#26
The only thing that limits you at azubu is yourself.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
March 05 2013 06:24 GMT
#27
I'm 99% sure that Azubu copy+pasted Twitch's TOS. Pretty funny imo
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3698 Posts
March 05 2013 06:29 GMT
#28
Up until 2 days ago, Azubu's ToS was just the bottom 4 paragraphs of their current ToS. They're grossly incompetent, and copy-pasted Twitch's ToS and find-replaced 'Twitch.tv' with 'AZUBU.TV'. Pretty much 100% sure of this. If you have an account on Azubu, you should make sure your password is something different from every other site you use, I wouldn't trust their security practices.

Since I'm sure many of you are lazy, the below embedded image tag has now changed your password on Azubu to 'AZUBU' (if you're logged in in the same browser session). You're welcome!

[image loading]
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
March 05 2013 06:34 GMT
#29
On March 05 2013 15:29 tec27 wrote:
Up until 2 days ago, Azubu's ToS was just the bottom 4 paragraphs of their current ToS. They're grossly incompetent, and copy-pasted Twitch's ToS and find-replaced 'Twitch.tv' with 'AZUBU.TV'. Pretty much 100% sure of this. If you have an account on Azubu, you should make sure your password is something different from every other site you use, I wouldn't trust their security practices.

Since I'm sure many of you are lazy, the below embedded image tag has now changed your password on Azubu to 'AZUBU' (if you're logged in in the same browser session). You're welcome!

[image loading]

I would be scared of you for doing stuff like this :D

But yeah no one has ever figured out where this money comes from which made me always scared also about all the players they signed. Hopefully they won't lose their home in cca 6 months.

Btw I just checked their site, it's a terrible UI, and experience, I couldn't even open more streams on new tabs :-(
The heart's eternal vow
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 06:39:20
March 05 2013 06:39 GMT
#30
twitch has made an official statement about this:

[image loading]


updated the OP
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
Graphix
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States208 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 06:41:14
March 05 2013 06:40 GMT
#31
wats going on? :s
~Jaedong Forever~
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
March 05 2013 06:41 GMT
#32
Regarding the updated op it seems that even Copy & Paste correctly is hard...or perhaps they did it a little to perfect...?
O_o
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
March 05 2013 06:41 GMT
#33
lol, embarrassing for Azubu. I sense a big boo.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
March 05 2013 06:42 GMT
#34
Azubu is just some money laundering business. No doubt it'll all just a massive cover-up for the true shenanigans they are doing.

But why the hell would there be anything related to twitch.tv in terms of service.....?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
March 05 2013 06:48 GMT
#35
On March 05 2013 15:41 MrBitter wrote:
lol, embarrassing for Azubu. I sense a big boo.


Drug cartels are LITERALLY killing esports with money laundering.
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9154 Posts
March 05 2013 06:52 GMT
#36
let's stay out of potentially libelous speculation here guys
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 05 2013 06:56 GMT
#37
truth is a defense to defamation claims.
Mittens
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia102 Posts
March 05 2013 07:01 GMT
#38
On March 05 2013 15:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Lol. Abuzu.tv redirects me to Twitch.tv


wait, what?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 05 2013 07:03 GMT
#39
On March 05 2013 16:01 Mittens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 15:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Lol. Abuzu.tv redirects me to Twitch.tv


wait, what?



Try it. Clever clever move from twitch.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 05 2013 07:08 GMT
#40
That wasn't twitch that did that.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
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