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Azubu has nothing to do with Justin.tv/Twitch.tv. This is what happens when you copy and paste legal disclaimers without find/replacing properly.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 05 2013 17:08 GMT
#81
Ok, maybe Twitch didn't do it. But why would anyone else do it?
Also, I said it was Abuzu.tv not Azubu
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
March 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#82
Generally, id agree. doesnt seem to have happened here tho :p
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
March 05 2013 17:10 GMT
#83
On March 06 2013 02:08 Torte de Lini wrote:
Ok, maybe Twitch didn't do it. But why would anyone else do it?
Also, I said it was Abuzu.tv not Azubu

.........
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 17:12:38
March 05 2013 17:12 GMT
#84
Good response, great contribution. You must be wild at dinner parties.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 05 2013 17:16 GMT
#85
So Azubu is owned by a firm that is on the british virgin island?

Sounds legit
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
March 05 2013 18:22 GMT
#86
On March 06 2013 02:16 Yoshi- wrote:
So Azubu is owned by a firm that is on the british virgin island?

Sounds legit


What is not legitimate about that?

In 2007, according to the Chinese Ministry of Commerce the BVI was a bigger source of foreign investment in China than the U.S. South Korea or Japan.

What the BVI gives AZUBU is what a number of jurisdictions that are captured by monied interests around the world give hundreds of thousands of companies: Secrecy. Secrecy which allows them to avoid tax. This makes AZUBU as legitimate as Amazon who site their European headquarters in Luxembourg.

Unless you mean the entire system is no legitimate, in which case I agree.
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
March 05 2013 18:23 GMT
#87
On March 06 2013 02:08 Torte de Lini wrote:
Ok, maybe Twitch didn't do it. But why would anyone else do it?
Also, I said it was Abuzu.tv not Azubu

Because there is no shortage of Internet trolls with pocket money who like doing shit for cheap giggles?
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 05 2013 19:35 GMT
#88
On March 06 2013 01:34 canikizu wrote:
Azubu is owned by Riot. Their plan is to make best teams of the world (Azubu frost, blaze) then sell them off to big organization to make the money back.

Think about it, if you pour millions dollar in the game, you should make your own teams to win most of the money back, at the same time you can sell off the team to make some extra money.


Evil evil organization!!!

This would actually make sense. Seeing how Azubu entered the Korean market to sponsor a tournament with 150k to force other companies later to pay a similar price pool.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 05 2013 19:36 GMT
#89
On March 06 2013 02:16 Yoshi- wrote:
So Azubu is owned by a firm that is on the british virgin island?

Sounds legit

Any links?
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
March 05 2013 19:45 GMT
#90
I feel like I've heard about this happening somewhere before
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 05 2013 19:47 GMT
#91
On March 06 2013 04:36 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 02:16 Yoshi- wrote:
So Azubu is owned by a firm that is on the british virgin island?

Sounds legit

Any links?


https://www.bundesanzeiger.de/ebanzwww/wexsservlet


Click on: »Bekanntmachung gemäß § 20 Abs. 6 AktG

Die SYSK Limited, Road Town, hat uns im Juli 2012 gemäß § 20 Abs. 5 AktG mitgeteilt, dass ihr keine Mehrheitsbeteiligung oder Beteiligung gemäß § 20 Abs. 1, 3 oder 4 AktG mehr an unserer Gesellschaft gehört.

Die AZUBU Europe Limited, Road Town, hat uns im Juli 2012 gemäß nach § 20 Abs. 1 und 4 AktG mitgeteilt, dass ihr eine Mehrheitsbeteiligung an unserer Gesellschaft gehört.


Means that they used to be owned by SYSK LIMITED in Road Town(virgin island) and are now owned by AZUBU Europe Limited also in Road Town
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
March 05 2013 19:49 GMT
#92
Lol. Azubu didn't get a lawyer it would appear.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9617 Posts
March 05 2013 19:51 GMT
#93
or a web developer either
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 20:08:21
March 05 2013 19:57 GMT
#94
On March 06 2013 04:47 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 04:36 SilverStar wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:16 Yoshi- wrote:
So Azubu is owned by a firm that is on the british virgin island?

Sounds legit

Any links?


https://www.bundesanzeiger.de/ebanzwww/wexsservlet


Click on: »Bekanntmachung gemäß § 20 Abs. 6 AktG

Show nested quote +
Die SYSK Limited, Road Town, hat uns im Juli 2012 gemäß § 20 Abs. 5 AktG mitgeteilt, dass ihr keine Mehrheitsbeteiligung oder Beteiligung gemäß § 20 Abs. 1, 3 oder 4 AktG mehr an unserer Gesellschaft gehört.

Die AZUBU Europe Limited, Road Town, hat uns im Juli 2012 gemäß nach § 20 Abs. 1 und 4 AktG mitgeteilt, dass ihr eine Mehrheitsbeteiligung an unserer Gesellschaft gehört.


Means that they used to be owned by SYSK LIMITED in Road Town(virgin island) and are now owned by AZUBU Europe Limited also in Road Town

Thanks for posting. Really interesting.

Here is another link that might be interesting:

http://www.markhound.com/trademark/search/P4xPbXkV7

http://trademarks.justia.com/854/94/azubu-85494003.html

It shows that Azubu have been working on registering their trademark since 2011 when Azubu was "founded". I don't know all kinda weird for a German/Korean company already trying to settle themselves in the US.


My German is very limited but it seems that the head of Azubus are all korean. Kinda weird why they would keep saying that they are a German company -_-.

Namen der Mitglieder des Vorstands und des Aufsichtsrats

Während des abgelaufenen Geschäftsjahrs gehörten die folgenden Personen dem Vorstand an:
Hyunggeun Lee, Seoul, Südkorea ausgeübter Beruf: Kaufmann

Dem Aufsichtsrat gehörten folgende Personen an:
Young Seon Cho, Seoul, Südkorea ausgeübter Beruf: Leitender Direktor
Heejoon Park, Uiwang, Südkorea ausgeübter Beruf: Direktor
Dr. Michael Naschke, Berlin(bis 29. Juni 2012) ausgeübter Beruf: Rechtsanwalt

Angabe über das Bestehen einer Beteiligung an der Gesellschaft, die nach § 20 Abs. 1 oder 4 AktG der Gesellschaft mitgeteilt worden ist

Die SYSK Limited, Road Town, Britische Jungferninseln hält an der Unternehmung eine Mehrheitsbeteiligung.


Also there is no money in the Germany subsidary. 50k Euro which is basically the minimum to register a company in Germany. So although they claim that they are a German company the German company is just an upfront for their other operations.
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
March 05 2013 22:46 GMT
#95
On March 05 2013 15:11 Kiante wrote:
why is Azubu bothering with TOS?

They specifically state you can do anything.

anything at all.


NOOOOOO IT'S DOWN

This is making me waay more sad than it should :[
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
March 05 2013 22:49 GMT
#96
I foresee a poor future for AZUBU. Probably going to blow through their money, start missing payments, and duck out like most of the other esports related companies.
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
March 05 2013 23:20 GMT
#97
So will anyone be able to sign up and stream at Azubu.tv or is it only already established streamers? I tried to find someway to get my own stream on there but I can't seem to find it.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9617 Posts
March 06 2013 00:19 GMT
#98
On March 06 2013 07:46 xxpack09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 15:11 Kiante wrote:
why is Azubu bothering with TOS?

They specifically state you can do anything.

anything at all.


NOOOOOO IT'S DOWN

This is making me waay more sad than it should :[


No worries mate, the unattainable is once more unknown
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 02:09:10
March 06 2013 01:15 GMT
#99
On March 06 2013 04:57 SilverStar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 06 2013 04:47 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 04:36 SilverStar wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:16 Yoshi- wrote:
So Azubu is owned by a firm that is on the british virgin island?

Sounds legit

Any links?


https://www.bundesanzeiger.de/ebanzwww/wexsservlet


Click on: »Bekanntmachung gemäß § 20 Abs. 6 AktG

Show nested quote +
Die SYSK Limited, Road Town, hat uns im Juli 2012 gemäß § 20 Abs. 5 AktG mitgeteilt, dass ihr keine Mehrheitsbeteiligung oder Beteiligung gemäß § 20 Abs. 1, 3 oder 4 AktG mehr an unserer Gesellschaft gehört.

Die AZUBU Europe Limited, Road Town, hat uns im Juli 2012 gemäß nach § 20 Abs. 1 und 4 AktG mitgeteilt, dass ihr eine Mehrheitsbeteiligung an unserer Gesellschaft gehört.


Means that they used to be owned by SYSK LIMITED in Road Town(virgin island) and are now owned by AZUBU Europe Limited also in Road Town

Thanks for posting. Really interesting.

Here is another link that might be interesting:

http://www.markhound.com/trademark/search/P4xPbXkV7

http://trademarks.justia.com/854/94/azubu-85494003.html

It shows that Azubu have been working on registering their trademark since 2011 when Azubu was "founded". I don't know all kinda weird for a German/Korean company already trying to settle themselves in the US.


My German is very limited but it seems that the head of Azubus are all korean. Kinda weird why they would keep saying that they are a German company -_-.

Namen der Mitglieder des Vorstands und des Aufsichtsrats

Während des abgelaufenen Geschäftsjahrs gehörten die folgenden Personen dem Vorstand an:
Hyunggeun Lee, Seoul, Südkorea ausgeübter Beruf: Kaufmann

Dem Aufsichtsrat gehörten folgende Personen an:
Young Seon Cho, Seoul, Südkorea ausgeübter Beruf: Leitender Direktor
Heejoon Park, Uiwang, Südkorea ausgeübter Beruf: Direktor
Dr. Michael Naschke, Berlin(bis 29. Juni 2012) ausgeübter Beruf: Rechtsanwalt

Angabe über das Bestehen einer Beteiligung an der Gesellschaft, die nach § 20 Abs. 1 oder 4 AktG der Gesellschaft mitgeteilt worden ist

Die SYSK Limited, Road Town, Britische Jungferninseln hält an der Unternehmung eine Mehrheitsbeteiligung.


Also there is no money in the Germany subsidary. 50k Euro which is basically the minimum to register a company in Germany. So although they claim that they are a German company the German company is just an upfront for their other operations.

Here are translations of the quoted parts in German (AktG = Aktiengesetz, German Stock Corp. Act):

»Announcement according to § 20 p. 6 AktG

SYSK Limited, Road Town, according to § 20 p. 5 AktG has reported to us in July 2012 that it does not hold a majority stake or any stake according to § 20 p. 1, 3 or 4 AktG in our company.

AZUBU Europe Limited, Road Town, according to § 20 p. 1 and 4 AktG has reported to us in July 2012 that it holds a majority stake in our company.

Names of the members of the management and supervisory board

During the recent fiscal year the following persons were part of the management:
Hyunggeun Lee, Seoul, South Korea occupation held: businessman

The supervisory board consisted of the following persons:
Young Seon Cho, Seoul, South Korea occupation held: executive director
Heejoon Park, Uiwang, South Korea occupation held: director
Dr. Michael Naschke, Berlin (until June 29, 2012) occupation held: attorney

Statement regarding stakeholders in this company, as reported according to § 20 p. 1 or 4 AktG

SYSK Limited, Road Town, British Virgin Islands holds a majority stake in this company.


There are three companies officially registered in Berlin tied to the AZUBU name. One is AZUBU Europe AG, then there is a certain Clauf GmbH c/o AZUBU Europe AG, and finally AZUBU Interactive GmbH. The registrations basically state that AZUBU is in the game publishing business.

+ Show Spoiler [AZUBU Europe AG] +

Entwicklung sowie Erbringung von Computerspielen und von auf Computerspiele bezogene Informationen und Dienstleistungen durch das Internet in Europa und verwandte Tätigkeiten sowie alle Tätigkeiten, die dem vorgenannten Gegenstand zu dienen geeignet sind.

Development as well as delivery of computer games and of information and services based on computer games through the internet in Europe and related activities as well as all activities that are fit to aid in the mentioned purpose.

CEO: Lee, Hyunggeun


+ Show Spoiler [Clauf GmbH c/o AZUBU Europe AG] +

Die Entwicklung, die Produktion, das Bereitstellen, das Unterhalten, die Vermarktung und die Ausstrahlung von Software-Technologien, Online-Medien und weiteren Produkten im Zusammenhang mit dem Bereich des eSports und von wettbewerbsmäßigen Online-Computerspielen und ähnlichen Bereichen, dabei im nationalen und internationalen Markt.

Development, production, deployment, maintenance, publishing, and broadcasting of software technologies, online media, and other products pertaining to e-sports and competitive online computer games and similar domains in the national and international market.

CEO: Lee, Jong Hwan


+ Show Spoiler [AZUBU Interactive GmbH] +

Die Entwicklung, die Produktion, die Vermarktung, der Verkauf und die Veröffentlichung von Software-Technologien, insbesondere von Online-Medien und weiteren Produkten, sowie die Organisation von Veranstaltungen im Zusammenhang mit dem Bereich des eSports und von wettbewerbsmäßigen Online-Computerspielen, sowie das Anbieten von Leistungen im Bereich von Online-Kontaktnetzwerken (social networks services), dabei im nationalen und internationalen Markt.

Development, production, marketing, sales, and publishing of software technologies, especially online media and other products, as well as organizing events pertaining to e-sports and competitive online computer games, as well as offering social networking services, in the national and international market.

CEO: Park, In Sung


The CEO of AZUBU Interactive, with the adopted name Silverio I. Park, apparently has a webspace at http://insung.de/ where the following (from a magazine, PDF link) can be found among many other things (mostly in Korean):

+ Show Spoiler [magazine page image] +
[image loading]


There was also a GTAI article ("Playing the Big Game -- A Korean in Berlin") in English with an interview of Mr Park of AZUBU available here, with the following interesting parts:

[...]
In December 2011 Mr. Park founded AZUBU together with a Korean businessman whom he met during his work at KOTRA. They chose Berlin as the location of the company's headquarters, because - as Mr. Park says – here is good, qualified, competent staff to be found, and Berlin also supports IT companies, which makes the capital even more attractive. They have a studio in Korea where the game developers are working, and the Berlin headquarters concentrates on product management, community management, PR, marketing, license purchases, and game-publishing.
[...]
When I ask Mr. Park what exactly AZUBU is doing, he stands up and picks up a large picture from the sideboard. There is a huge hall in the picture, full of people, celebrating the online-gamers standing on a podium, in a shower of confetti. "You see? This is an event of the Online Games League in Seoul, with two five-person teams. It was sold out, 17,000 people were in the hall, and we also had a live stream in the Internet. We want to organize such 2-3-hour events in Germany, elsewhere in Europe, also in North America, and establish professional and amateur leagues in different age groups - this work is already underway. We are building a social network for gamers, where fans can exchange information about the specific topics of the gaming world. In our community for example, the gamer, can chat with his own voice, doesn’t need to use the keyboard, because during the game, hands are busy.”

AZUBU Europe AG is currently looking for strategic partners in Europe and elsewhere, in order to realize these great plans. The business prospects of the company are promising: revenues come at a gaming event from tickets, live stream fees, cable television licenses, advertising, and merchandising. AZUBU already has four own highly successful professional gaming teams, and plans to "adopt" more professional teams from North America. AZUBU want to be a “big one” in eSports, in the world of virtual championships.

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
crankyexgamer
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)2 Posts
March 06 2013 02:29 GMT
#100
Just came here to say keep an eye on this. Twitch is definitely not affiliated with Azubu, and it's not the first thing Azubu has blatantly copy/pasted. Could get interesting REAL fast.
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