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sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
October 20 2012 22:00 GMT
#81
On October 21 2012 06:22 onewingedmoogle wrote:
he seems like a well mannered guy, but he's not just some kid. he's a privileged individual who lives off of the benefits of a dictator state that treats it's people like cattle. it's great that he has a wider view of the world than his grandfather likely did. but I doubt he'd have any compassion for the people in his country who suffer and die for his well being.


You sir, are retarded

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Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
October 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#82
On October 21 2012 06:22 onewingedmoogle wrote:
he seems like a well mannered guy, but he's not just some kid. he's a privileged individual who lives off of the benefits of a dictator state that treats it's people like cattle. it's great that he has a wider view of the world than his grandfather likely did. but I doubt he'd have any compassion for the people in his country who suffer and die for his well being.

Why?
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
October 20 2012 23:43 GMT
#83
Yeaa, that guy is as likely to reform NK as I am.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 20 2012 23:51 GMT
#84
Seems like a nice guy but he's not even in the direct line of succession so I don't wouldn't bank on him having any significant effect on North Korea.
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
October 21 2012 13:39 GMT
#85
On October 21 2012 07:41 Megabuster123 wrote:
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On October 21 2012 06:22 onewingedmoogle wrote:
he seems like a well mannered guy, but he's not just some kid. he's a privileged individual who lives off of the benefits of a dictator state that treats it's people like cattle. it's great that he has a wider view of the world than his grandfather likely did. but I doubt he'd have any compassion for the people in his country who suffer and die for his well being.

Why?


I just wanted to point out the irony of critical methodology here, which is intensely North Korean. Instead of regarding virtue as a quality of personality, virtue is now completely bound to your position within the power structures of society. Just like the American Imperialist, who regardless of how much he loves his community, considerate in his manners or modest in appetites is incapable of being virtuous, because he's still an American Imperialist, the North Korean elite is of course simply the North Korean elite in our eyes and nothing more.

That kind of superficial analysis may belong to the fables of social science, normal and sensible people ought to judge in terms of things more substantial.
AcesAnoka
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium262 Posts
October 21 2012 13:46 GMT
#86
wow, he really seems to be an intelligent person. One day maybe he'll make a change.
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SUSUGAM
Profile Joined November 2007
United States177 Posts
October 21 2012 13:49 GMT
#87
Finally, a thread that truly sums up Teamliquid.
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Cutlery
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway565 Posts
October 21 2012 14:02 GMT
#88
On October 21 2012 04:41 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
In the extremely unlikely chance there will be one Korea, that will be very good for US imperialism. We will now dominate the whole Korean peninsula and be right on China's doorstep by land. Things are getting better and better. People hoping for a united Korea are just hoping for the expansion of US power whether they realize it or not, ironically.

The Mexican-American War gave us some of our most important actual territory. The Spanish-American War beat the last of the Spanish in Latin America and gave us heavy power there to this day. The end of WW2 basically gave us Western Europe and parts of the Far East. The Soviet collapse gave us much of Eastern Europe. Anyone else, like backward Arab dictators and monarchs, we just throw money at them and they wag like dogs. Any countries that don't kneel, we destroy them, like Iraq and Serbia.

Who's next? >: )


Thanks for the laugh

Sorry for the short post, have to go kneeling facing the US of A.
LeGendzErg
Profile Joined January 2012
United States37 Posts
October 21 2012 14:25 GMT
#89
On October 20 2012 08:03 DownOnMyNiece wrote:
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On October 20 2012 07:00 Supamang wrote:
Is he the captain of the Mirrenium Farcon? hehehe

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Why does that Star Wars joke get warned?

Han Solo, hilarious! I don't see anything wrong here.

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this is why tl and starcraft are going downhill, retarded moderators banning people just trying to shed a joke its no wonder wow and league of legends have triple the viewers. Teamliquid is just filled with a bunch of egotistic overpowered bully moderators and if this dosent change i guarantee starcaft is going to die in 2 years.


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tips
Profile Joined April 2011
9 Posts
October 21 2012 14:29 GMT
#90
Thx for the invite, Warning party!

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0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4550 Posts
October 21 2012 14:57 GMT
#91
Don't know if it has been mentioned before in this thread but Pol Pot studied in Paris and had many friends and seemed like a cool guy and yet... Became a total monster.
The daughter of Stalin escaped.

So we have 2 very opposite situation. One where a person get the chance to see the world, comes back to his country, destroys it. The other, leaving family and everything, grew up her own mind.

We won't know what kind a person this guy is until he has power, if he ever has power.
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MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
October 21 2012 16:04 GMT
#92
On October 21 2012 23:57 0x64 wrote:
Don't know if it has been mentioned before in this thread but Pol Pot studied in Paris and had many friends and seemed like a cool guy and yet... Became a total monster.
The daughter of Stalin escaped.

So we have 2 very opposite situation. One where a person get the chance to see the world, comes back to his country, destroys it. The other, leaving family and everything, grew up her own mind.

We won't know what kind a person this guy is until he has power, if he ever has power.


I don't know anything about Pol Pot, but Svetlana Alliluvyeva was not quite the idealised picture of one of Emma Lazarus' 'tired poor huddled...yearning to breathe free.'

After her defection American propagandists celebrated her in a fashion akin to the defection of Solzhenitsyn. Yet like Solzhenitsyn, Svetlana was never one of them, and became a deeply unsatisfied and unhappy woman in America. Political loyalties do neither beasts nor angels make.
REDSEW
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (South)17 Posts
November 04 2012 09:35 GMT
#93
I am living in Korea right now... And regarding this, you can't really trust the North Koreans, they are really secretive and plot ways to take over Korea and possibly more...
Wouldn't the North Korean government already do something about the grandson? I mean hes not raised as the normal North Korean brainwashed beliefs...
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 04 2012 13:12 GMT
#94
On November 04 2012 18:35 REDSEW wrote:
I am living in Korea right now... And regarding this, you can't really trust the North Koreans, they are really secretive and plot ways to take over Korea and possibly more...
Wouldn't the North Korean government already do something about the grandson? I mean hes not raised as the normal North Korean brainwashed beliefs...


The Kim family has send children to Switserland before, since they are one of the few nations that don't actively hate them, since they are well known for being neutral all the time.

Also, I presume most of the higher-ups enjoy a more western-education than the masses do. If your the son of a high rank politician or army officer, its likely you will at some point in your life have to deal with the outside world.

It's just that the elite echelons of society are extremely closed off, and also stand to benefit the most.


It creates a circle.

Those that are born into one of political families will not only live a rich life, but also have more power than anywhere else in the world. From a self-serving point of view, they couldn't be in a better position. Not even Bill Gates could just pick a girl of the streets and rape her. A North-Korean official wouldn't face many problems over it.

Meanwhile, the army, the only place where the common man can climb up, is the same insititution that oppresses the people. So, the only way to escape being a victim, is to join the criminals.

Everyone in North-Korea has to take part in its sick system in some fashion. Nobody is exempt.
AzureHath
Profile Joined October 2011
Bulgaria154 Posts
November 04 2012 14:03 GMT
#95
On October 20 2012 07:15 Mambo wrote:
I came here expecting something completely different. This young man seems well spoken and well informed. Seems like a nice guy, cant believe Kim Jong Il is his grand father.


Pretty much sums up my opinion, not exactly what you'd expect when you open the videos.

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bailando
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany332 Posts
November 04 2012 14:23 GMT
#96
very biased. the interviewer is even biased as fuck and its a very one sided interview. sorry but i really dont like the thing at all.
Geefking
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia41 Posts
November 04 2012 14:24 GMT
#97
Does anyone know where he was educated or taught English I can't seem to pick it up. By far the most well spoken person I have heard in a few years.

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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
November 04 2012 14:30 GMT
#98
On November 04 2012 23:23 bailando wrote:
very biased. the interviewer is even biased as fuck and its a very one sided interview. sorry but i really dont like the thing at all.


Perhaps you have to see bigger and wider picture what interviewer does.
Supert0fu
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States499 Posts
November 04 2012 14:47 GMT
#99
He seems like a really articulate young man. If he was truly "an evil demon who lived off of the work of peasants and lived a life of luxury". Why wouldn't he stay in North Korea ? Why would he try to open himself up to the world, when it could only make him realize what a sheltered life he has ? Going to an international school shows that he is interested in the world and people outside of Korea, and I don't know how anyone can think this is a bad thing. Seemed like a nice guy to me O.O
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
November 04 2012 15:12 GMT
#100
On November 04 2012 23:23 bailando wrote:
very biased. the interviewer is even biased as fuck and its a very one sided interview. sorry but i really dont like the thing at all.


do you know who this interviewer is?
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