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Mr.Faces
Profile Joined June 2012
United States121 Posts
October 19 2012 23:18 GMT
#21
On October 20 2012 08:10 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 08:05 Pseudoku wrote:
On October 20 2012 08:03 DownOnMyNiece wrote:
On October 20 2012 07:00 Supamang wrote:
Is he the captain of the Mirrenium Farcon? hehehe

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Why does that Star Wars joke get warned?

Han Solo, hilarious! I don't see anything wrong here.


The 'r's

That's ridiculous. I've seen pictures by Manit0u in the funny pictures thread making jokes about black people not being able to read and he goes unscathed. I see a thread devoted bashing religion simply because they protest on their own private property about abortion, the creator went unwarned.

I PMd the guy who warned me because I honestly don't know why I was warned, all he said was "dont do this". If it really is the whole switching of Rs and Ls, then im disappointed. I've stood up against racism against Asians (my own race) enough in my own life to be able to recognize real racism from harmless fun.

Edit: I take more offense to people in this entire site claiming to know about Asian culture purely on Koreans' SC2 work ethic than an obviously stupid joke about the pronunciation of Rs or Ls.


It's TL man, there's is no 'standard' on moderating, it's all a case of whatever each mod feels like doing at any given point in time, be it logical or not. I wouldn't even waste time arguing, you'll just get banned again. Your joke was good btw, and no it wasn't racist in any way.


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BoX
Profile Joined July 2003
United States214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 00:09:22
October 19 2012 23:18 GMT
#22
Anyone else notice than Kim Han Sol..

Kim HAN SOLO!!!!

Oh yeah. And you know that's exactly why he's called Han Sol, 'cuz his Grandpa was obsessed with Hollywood.

edit: apparently this has been pointed out already. Whatevs guys, I'm not editing my post. Mine's cooler.
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
October 19 2012 23:23 GMT
#23
I have to say, I did enjoy that joke quite a bit. Also, im surprised that he could get schooling outside of North Korea o.o
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
October 19 2012 23:31 GMT
#24
Pretty awesome interview. Seems like a pretty solid guy.
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
October 19 2012 23:35 GMT
#25
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sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
October 19 2012 23:38 GMT
#26
Great interview. He's incredibly well-spoken.

I wonder how his uncle would react upon seeing how westernized his nephew is.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
October 19 2012 23:43 GMT
#27
definitely 100x better than Mao's grandsong LOL
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Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
October 19 2012 23:47 GMT
#28
This video really showed me that there may be hope for North Korea in the future.
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
October 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#29
Surprise surprise, kid's aren't born rotten. Yes he seems to be a good guy but that doesn't mean that he'll bring about any change. Best thing we can hope for is that he gets left alone and can have a normal live.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 19 2012 23:59 GMT
#30
I found it ironic when he had a Libyan roommate, destiny? But being on the unfavored side of the family I don't see any direct influence he will assert in the future.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 20 2012 00:11 GMT
#31
On October 20 2012 08:58 B.I.G. wrote:
Surprise surprise, kid's aren't born rotten. Yes he seems to be a good guy but that doesn't mean that he'll bring about any change. Best thing we can hope for is that he gets left alone and can have a normal live.


All I've seen from him is that he thinks the U.S/U.K are awful, everyone in the west is incredibly biased, that Communism is awesome, that he is for equal rights for all, but life in NK isn't bad (implied via comment that everyone in NK has a cell phone now that only makes calls locally).
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
October 20 2012 00:28 GMT
#32
How is changing a letter for another to make a joke completely unrelated to his race itself "racism"?

Racism is the hatred for another race or feeling of superiority of a race over another. Referencing a manner of speaking (which stems from differences in languages and not physical differences between races) that is well-known is so far from racism I'm be pressed to find a single person who'd be offended.

Team Liquid thought-police at work. What a case of super hyper sensitivity. Par for the course, I guess. The TL user base is definitely not known for their intelligence.

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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 00:34:01
October 20 2012 00:32 GMT
#33
On October 20 2012 09:28 RANDOMCL wrote:
How is changing a letter for another to make a joke completely unrelated to his race itself "racism"?

Racism is the hatred for another race or feeling of superiority of a race over another. Referencing a manner of speaking (which stems from differences in languages and not physical differences between races) that is well-known is so far from racism I'm be pressed to find a single person who'd be offended.

Team Liquid thought-police at work. What a case of super hyper sensitivity. Par for the course, I guess. The TL user base is definitely not known for their intelligence.


Your point is incorrect. It's like seeing a black person and slurring all your words in a "ghetto" way, as if all black people speak like that. It's inherently attributing a way of speaking to skin color, which is racism. Racism doesn't have to be negative. Calling Asians smart is racism. In this case, pointing out what some english speakers find funny in the phonography of asian languages, is more of a teasing neutral racism, but racism none the less.

It's less a matter of spite and more a matter of ignorance.

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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 20 2012 00:38 GMT
#34
What is he's and his family current political position? I don't know where i got this impression but i think they are in a semi state of exile.
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
October 20 2012 00:41 GMT
#35
On October 20 2012 09:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:28 RANDOMCL wrote:
How is changing a letter for another to make a joke completely unrelated to his race itself "racism"?

Racism is the hatred for another race or feeling of superiority of a race over another. Referencing a manner of speaking (which stems from differences in languages and not physical differences between races) that is well-known is so far from racism I'm be pressed to find a single person who'd be offended.

Team Liquid thought-police at work. What a case of super hyper sensitivity. Par for the course, I guess. The TL user base is definitely not known for their intelligence.


Your point is incorrect. It's like seeing a black person and slurring all your words in a "ghetto" way, as if all black people speak like that. It's inherently attributing a way of speaking to skin color, which is racism. Racism doesn't have to be negative. Calling Asians smart is racism. In this case, pointing out what some english speakers find funny in the phonography of asian languages, is more of a teasing neutral racism, but racism none the less.

It's less a matter of spite and more a matter of ignorance.


Well, there seems to be a bit of inconsistency here, considering how his name is "Supamang".
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
October 20 2012 00:44 GMT
#36
The real question is what is his main race and what league is he in?
Foblos
Profile Joined September 2011
United States426 Posts
October 20 2012 00:53 GMT
#37
On October 20 2012 09:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:28 RANDOMCL wrote:
How is changing a letter for another to make a joke completely unrelated to his race itself "racism"?

Racism is the hatred for another race or feeling of superiority of a race over another. Referencing a manner of speaking (which stems from differences in languages and not physical differences between races) that is well-known is so far from racism I'm be pressed to find a single person who'd be offended.

Team Liquid thought-police at work. What a case of super hyper sensitivity. Par for the course, I guess. The TL user base is definitely not known for their intelligence.


Your point is incorrect. It's like seeing a black person and slurring all your words in a "ghetto" way, as if all black people speak like that. It's inherently attributing a way of speaking to skin color, which is racism. Racism doesn't have to be negative. Calling Asians smart is racism. In this case, pointing out what some english speakers find funny in the phonography of asian languages, is more of a teasing neutral racism, but racism none the less.

It's less a matter of spite and more a matter of ignorance.


For most Koreans that is the case. I have a Korean professor who has lived in America for fourteen years and teaches Greek to American students. His grasp of English mechanics is better than most of the students he teaches, and yet his l's sound like r's all the time. His intonation is often off as well, and is has nothing to do with being racist. The way Korean phonetics and language works is fundamentally different from western linguistics. It is how it is and trying to coddle everyone so no one gets offended doesn't really help anything.
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Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
October 20 2012 00:55 GMT
#38
Lols he's pretty handsome :o Is he next in line?
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sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
October 20 2012 00:58 GMT
#39
Now that they know where he is, do you think maybe the cia will kidnap him and use him as hostage to better negotiate with north korea? I mean, the fact that he is in a random place like bosnia seems fishy, almost like they wanted him to be out of the public eye.
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 01:05:14
October 20 2012 01:02 GMT
#40
On October 20 2012 09:38 ShadeR wrote:
What is he's and his family current political position? I don't know where i got this impression but i think they are in a semi state of exile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Han-sol

Kim Han-sol (Korean: 김한솔, born 16 June 1995) is the eldest son of Kim Jong-nam and the grandson of the former North Korean ruler, Kim Jong-Il. His father was the heir-apparent until 2001, when he fell out of favor with the regime following a failed attempt to secretly visit Japan’s Disneyland in May 2001. His uncle, Kim Jong-un, was named the heir apparent in September 2010, and succeeded Kim Jong-il upon the latter's death in December 2011.
[...]
In October 2012, Kim made his first ever televised interview with Finnish TV network YLE, making several comments about his desire for Korean reunification, while also criticizing his grandfather's and uncle's rule over North Korea.

Considering this, and since he's lived in Western-oriented Hongkong (former British colony) and Macau (former Portugese colony) for most of his life and is now studying as part of the United World Colleges (UWC) program in Mostar, Bosnia-Herzegovina (interesting choice), it's fair to assume that he and his family look at things differently.

Anyways, interesting interview. Cute guy. All the best to him.

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