EPTOn September 21 2012 07:53 Sirois wrote:
Reddit is disgusting.
Reddit is disgusting.
no not really, people are.
those crazy Reddit users, at it again! - Page 20
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
no not really, people are. | ||
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
I mildly disagree with people watching CP, but only really because it helps support the people who MAKE CP. I feel that the people who watch CP are going to get their fix somehow, and if they use CP, like you said, watching porn correlates with a decrease in rape. What I do have the problem with is the people who make CP. Clearly that's really fucked up. However, realistically, the only way to really fight the people making CP is by reducing/removing the market it can be bought/sold on. | ||
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bOneSeven
Romania685 Posts
On September 22 2012 00:10 WarSame wrote: ^ boneseven, that is damn near my philosophy on it. I mildly disagree with people watching CP, but only really because it helps support the people who MAKE CP. I feel that the people who watch CP are going to get their fix somehow, and if they use CP, like you said, watching porn correlates with a decrease in rape. What I do have the problem with is the people who make CP. Clearly that's really fucked up. However, realistically, the only way to really fight the people making CP is by reducing/removing the market it can be bought/sold on. No you can't and shouldn't do that, it's like saying let's kill all human beings because some of them directly harm the environment. Or let's ban ideologies because we had fascism. Life is good and bad, in all of us there is good and bad. All we can do is try to let the good in us help others and fight the bad in us without hurting anyone. Also, let's say, if I'm 19 and I watch a 17 yr girl masturbate on camera should I be imprisoned for posesing child pornography ? It is common today that young girls from highschool go date college guys => a 17 yr old girl will most likely have sex with a 19-21 yr old guy. This is the reality. This magic number thing is ridiculuos as well. It is hard to really see the wrong in this unless you have a 15 yr old girl entertaining a 25+ year old guy. We need a revamp of the system and a better understading of what "abuse" really means. I gave poor example of 15/25, but still, when I was in gymnasium and highschool, 90% of girls were already dating older guys, and in highschool from 10-11th grade, chick would have sex with "adults", even tho let's face it, just turning 18 won't make u an adult, it will just make you well enough to serve in the military or be imprisoned ( this is the basic concept ). I'm 21 and I still consider myself a "kid", and I rarely take myself seriously - this is one of the rare case I take myself seriously - freedom, I'm all about freedom as long as you don't hurt anyone else. Will freedom cause bad things? Sure. But without freedom you won't have the internet, you won't have books, you won't have anything.It's easy to see this if you use your brain -__-. Also don't forget, there is money to be made in censorship. Btw warsame, most reply isn't directed at yourself, just the "no you can't reduce the market" thing. My opinion is not 100% on that particular issue, but I don't see how you can completely stop child pornography or snuffs ( haven't seen one of each yet and I intend to die without seeing one - however I can't have nothing against psychopats or sociopaths, they are unlucky first of all, yes they should be discarded from society, but the last thing you should do is hate them. ) without seriously taking HUGE blows at freedom of information/privacy. | ||
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whatevername
471 Posts
But then this is the internet, so...so what? | ||
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Positronic
121 Posts
Teacher allegedly posts pictures of students on 'CreepShot' website Sep 26, 2012 11:38 p.m. A substitute teacher in Coweta County is accused of taking pictures of students and posting them on a "Creeper" website. Authorities are investigating after students at East Coweta High said their pictures ended up on the Reddit "Creepshot" web page. Some of the pictures are relatively innocent, but the captions and context are disturbing some parents. The page contains thousands of pictures of unsuspecting women taken everywhere from Target to the beach. The women have no idea they are on the site. School officials say they called in the Coweta County Sheriff's Office to investigate the substitute teacher. They say he hasn't been allowed in a classroom since the allegations. "As a dad, I don't want to say too much of what I would like to do, but you know, you have to let the authorities, hopefully have confidence in them that they will do the right thing," said parent Steve Bedrosian. School officials say substitute teachers go through background checks just like regular teachers and there were no red flags in this case. The teacher is no longer employed by the school system. http://wap.myfoxatlanta.com/w/main/story/74158615/ | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On September 28 2012 03:35 Positronic wrote: Here's more for you guys, I didn't want to post another thread to take up more evidence of crazy Reddit users: http://wap.myfoxatlanta.com/w/main/story/74158615/ Go away already. Teamliquid isn't a front for your Project Panda smear campaign against Reddit. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Context: Stephano's vague comment about a 14 year old gets posted on reddit and the ensuing comments are filled with people defending pedophilia. Comments like "The age of consent in a lot of European countries is 14. It's dumb how people are only horrified because their government told them to be." and "I've seen quite a few 14 yo girls who I thought were older and looked good.. and let's be honest, the only reason I wouldn't bang them is because I don't want to go to jail.. I'm sure a lot of people are like "wtf you'd bang a 14 yo if it were legal, you're sick, blah blah blah".. but I'm sure most of these people would too and only say that because it's looked down upon to admit it.. but hey.. most men would bang a 14 year old given the chance if it were legal" (This comment being made by a 23 year old) http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/111ir8/oh_stephano_what_have_you_done/ http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/111nj7/effort_rstarcraft_is_apparently_ok_with_adults/ | ||
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Evilmystic
Russian Federation266 Posts
On October 07 2012 03:58 youngminii wrote: Comments like "The age of consent in a lot of European countries is 14. It's dumb how people are only horrified because their government told them to be." And there is literally nothing wrong with this comment. | ||
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ain
Germany786 Posts
On October 07 2012 03:58 youngminii wrote: Reddit's r/starcraft disappointed me a lot today. Generally like reddit but this is something I don't expect from one of the larger subreddits. Context: Stephano's vague comment about a 14 year old gets posted on reddit and the ensuing comments are filled with people defending pedophilia. Comments like "The age of consent in a lot of European countries is 14. It's dumb how people are only horrified because their government told them to be." and "I've seen quite a few 14 yo girls who I thought were older and looked good.. and let's be honest, the only reason I wouldn't bang them is because I don't want to go to jail.. I'm sure a lot of people are like "wtf you'd bang a 14 yo if it were legal, you're sick, blah blah blah".. but I'm sure most of these people would too and only say that because it's looked down upon to admit it.. but hey.. most men would bang a 14 year old given the chance if it were legal" (This comment being made by a 23 year old) http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/111ir8/oh_stephano_what_have_you_done/ http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/111nj7/effort_rstarcraft_is_apparently_ok_with_adults/ You seem to be quite sheltered. The first comment is right about the age of consent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe The second comment matches with my personal experience. When I was 14 most kids around me were trying things out quite liberally. We all grew up to healthy (semi-) adults. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On September 20 2012 00:58 DreamChaser wrote: Have you ever been on Reddit? Right on the sidebar there is a giant list for each subreddit which outlines whats ok and whats not ok to talk about as well as how to use the site. Moderation being lazy? I wouldn't say so its a very high population site. TL staff does a terrific job with monitoring, because TL isn't nearly as large as Reddit. Its a site run by popular demand so if people want something enough it will eventually pop back up. They can't do a temp ban and expect the person to not back another account. It tells me that Reddit's owners are lazy by using the freedom of speech argument to defend the poor moderation job they are doing. The purpose of a forum is to harbour discussion, but the people who own and maintain it (in this case the reddit owners and staff) have a responsibility to themselves to moderate the discussion, as with any public forum in history. Doing a crappy job then saying that "Oh we just aren't moderating it because it would be an infringement on freedom of speech" is flat out lazy and making excuses period. If this was a freedom of speech issue there wouldn't be a bar outlining what is okay since everything should be okay given a completely un-monitored environment. You can't have it both ways. | ||
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1Dhalism
862 Posts
On October 07 2012 03:58 youngminii wrote: Reddit's r/starcraft disappointed me a lot today. Generally like reddit but this is something I don't expect from one of the larger subreddits. Context: Stephano's vague comment about a 14 year old gets posted on reddit and the ensuing comments are filled with people defending pedophilia. Comments like "The age of consent in a lot of European countries is 14. It's dumb how people are only horrified because their government told them to be." and "I've seen quite a few 14 yo girls who I thought were older and looked good.. and let's be honest, the only reason I wouldn't bang them is because I don't want to go to jail.. I'm sure a lot of people are like "wtf you'd bang a 14 yo if it were legal, you're sick, blah blah blah".. but I'm sure most of these people would too and only say that because it's looked down upon to admit it.. but hey.. most men would bang a 14 year old given the chance if it were legal" (This comment being made by a 23 year old) http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/111ir8/oh_stephano_what_have_you_done/ http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/111nj7/effort_rstarcraft_is_apparently_ok_with_adults/ That's not pedophilia. Pedophilia is attraction to pre-pubescent kids. That is also why government does not claim it to be pedophilia, but rather a statutory rape. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On October 07 2012 04:25 1Dhalism wrote: That's not pedophilia. Pedophilia is attraction to pre-pubescent kids. That is also why government does not claim it to be pedophilia, but rather a statutory rape. It just depends on whether or not the individual is capable of being responsible or understanding all the implications of their actions, I know plenty of adults who still can't manage to control their sex drives, the age of consent or adult hood defined by law is just a general measure that the majority agree upon where you should be responsible and understand the implication of your actions. Children in general are not capable of doing so, thus it should be discouraged - by law and prosecution if necessary, as simple as that. If the parties are consenting and responsible for the consequences and implications it shouldn't matter if I'm offended or in congruence. | ||
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caruso
Germany733 Posts
Also, he gets away with whatever he is saying. EG will not fire him as long as he's worth the money. They would never have kicked Orb if he had been a more popular caster, no matter how terrible his comments. | ||
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thekaas
Denmark235 Posts
On October 07 2012 04:36 Caihead wrote: It just depends on whether or not the individual is capable of being responsible or understanding all the implications of their actions, I know plenty of adults who still can't manage to control their sex drives, the age of consent or adult hood defined by law is just a general measure that the majority agree upon where you should be responsible and understand the implication of your actions. Children in general are not capable of doing so, thus it should be discouraged - by law and prosecution if necessary, as simple as that. If the parties are consenting and responsible for the consequences and implications it shouldn't matter if I'm offended or in congruence. That doesn't change the definition of pedophilia, though, if that's what you're getting at. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On October 07 2012 04:45 thekaas wrote: That doesn't change the definition of pedophilia, though, if that's what you're getting at. People can't grasp the idea that pedophilia =/= attraction to girls sexually (possibly not mentally) able. They throw kids pre-puberty with the rest of the under 18 teenagers and clap their hands together and say "that's that". | ||
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On October 07 2012 04:22 Caihead wrote: It tells me that Reddit's owners are lazy by using the freedom of speech argument to defend the poor moderation job they are doing. The purpose of a forum is to harbour discussion, but the people who own and maintain it (in this case the reddit owners and staff) have a responsibility to themselves to moderate the discussion, as with any public forum in history. Doing a crappy job then saying that "Oh we just aren't moderating it because it would be an infringement on freedom of speech" is flat out lazy and making excuses period. If this was a freedom of speech issue there wouldn't be a bar outlining what is okay since everything should be okay given a completely un-monitored environment. You can't have it both ways. I don't even know what to say to a post this dumb. Reddit owners aren't lazy. Moderation is left to those who create the subreddits. There are subreddits that cover almost every topic you can think of and the moderation of them is delegated to to those who create them or are tasked to moderate them by their creators. Reddit is a forum allowing almost every aspect of speech and has a lot of users who will become extremely pissed off if the owners of the site were to shut down everything they personally disagreed with. They likely believe the internet should be an open forum for speech devoid of the nazi moderation like many other places on the web. They aren't moderating it because it isn't in their interests nor the interests of those who use the website. It seems to be in your interests, but anyone who enjoys the freedom that reddit provides for discussion doesn't care about your opinion on the subject. Reddit discussion is primarily controlled by the users via upvotes and downvotes, not moderation. Though these voting schemes appear to be controlled be cats rolling their faces across keyboards, it is still a system that works for the benefit of redditors. You should at least make an attempt to understand why the site exists and how the creators intended it to be used before subjecting your opinion to be how it is supposed to be rather than what it actually is/ | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
On October 07 2012 04:37 caruso wrote: What exactly did Stephano say? I don't see the comment on Reddit. Also, he gets away with whatever he is saying. EG will not fire him as long as he's worth the money. They would never have kicked Orb if he had been a more popular caster, no matter how terrible his comments. + Show Spoiler + Poor choice of words maybe? | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
It sounds more like a language barrier than anything imo, I abused a 14yo? sounds a lot like he was trying to get across he was hitting on/dancing up on etc, I doubt he'd publically state "I was having sex with a minor". Dunno that's my take. | ||
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
On October 07 2012 05:25 NeMeSiS3 wrote: It sounds more like a language barrier than anything imo, I abused a 14yo? sounds a lot like he was trying to get across he was hitting on/dancing up on etc, I doubt he'd publically state "I was having sex with a minor". Dunno that's my take. He probably didnt know that the person he was whispering was streaming atm, maybe. | ||
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MONXY FIST
United States142 Posts
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