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mitsy
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United States1792 Posts
January 17 2006 20:35 GMT
#41
i like it when they do a little bit of both
express yourself--madonna
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
January 17 2006 21:00 GMT
#42
i like the action before they do a little bit of both
HorsementalitY
Profile Joined August 2003
United States1159 Posts
January 17 2006 21:01 GMT
#43
nothin turns me on that when a girl guzzles and swallows my shit
Women, Pot, Futbol and Music
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
January 17 2006 22:09 GMT
#44
spitfire!
Memory lane in nice
Wizzra
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands514 Posts
January 17 2006 23:38 GMT
#45
i knew it was gonna be something else, but i still clicked
The responsibility of tolerance lies in those who have the wider vision.
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
January 17 2006 23:43 GMT
#46
I see what you did there.
All Those beneath an angry star
Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-17 23:55:52
January 17 2006 23:45 GMT
#47
DIE SCHPITTFAIER KOMMEN!!


edit: anyway!

On January 17 2006 23:08 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Here is a chart of WW2 fighters: Speed in Km/h vs Altitude in M

[image loading]


Blue = Spitfire Mk. IX (on which the Mk. XI was based)
Green = P51 Mustang
Yellow = Spitfire Mk.21
Red = Me-262

http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/gustin_military/perf/perf.html


Rating a plane solely on these statistics is bullshit.


On January 17 2006 23:47 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Mani you know as well as the rest of us that if Germany's fighter aircraft had better range Britain would have been fucked

I don't really know how good germany's preliminary jet fighters were on range (the focke wulfe was a hunk of junk, come on) but if their early efforts could give them the boost they needed in time, Britain would be mangled and it would be germany versus us, the americans, and the ruskies. I don't think they could have held their territory for long (especially if they'd occupied Britain as well) considering how fast they fell after Normandy.



the occupation of britain would mean that the US would have to start their invasion all the way from the other side of the ocean and would give German extended control of the waters.
so first of all, they'd see the invasion coming long before it would actually happen, and prepare accordingly
second, they would be able to do (more) damage before the actual drop.
third, air attacks were mostly based from the UK. UK being under German control would take away this risk and the diverse resource could be relocated to better use.
etc.

so basically, controlling britain would have made a huge difference stratigically and warfare based. the outcome of the second world war might have been completely different.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 18 2006 05:23 GMT
#48
Good points

We'll never know if it would have been enough though
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-18 06:14:32
January 18 2006 06:07 GMT
#49
Moltke, the me-262 was an early jet, with swept wings. The advantage it had was speed, and high altitude performance. But at the same time it had worse turning ratio and range, but of course the airwars were faught over germany so it didn't matter that much.

As far as armament, they were about equal. I read in an artice where some german pilots actually had some problems with the me-262 just because of it's great speed. They had very little time to actually aim and fire, and it frequently overshot more agile fighters or slow bombers.

But in the end I guess I agree that the advantage would be with the 262, because the spit would be fighting on the 262 pilots terms due to difference in speed. The best german fighter was most likely the FW-190. Powerful engine, good climbrate, good turning rate, heavy figherpower, and sturdy.

Also, the early fighters had trouble with visibility because of the cockpit positioning. As you see on the early spit, they couldn't check their six easily because the cockpit was buried in the fuselage. Later on it was raised and positioned more ontop, as well as having thicker and larger shaped glass design.

Edit: Btw, that first picture is not of an ME-262, and I love the design of the ME-109 despite of all it's flaws. ^^
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-18 06:58:41
January 18 2006 06:58 GMT
#50
Heh. I didn't even look at the first photo...what the hell is that?
ssj9
Profile Joined January 2006
Afghanistan15 Posts
January 18 2006 07:02 GMT
#51
What a crack up
You guys crack me up
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