The Spirtfire was defnitely a superior plane, the luftwaffe lacked a good air to air plane, and while the stuka was the deadliest bombarder ever seen, the meshersmith was an easy pray for the messersmith, however the germans in general were much more superior pilots.

Theres an anecdote where the best pilot returning after a difficult mission met the Fürer in person and when he offered anything he wanted he said "i want a spirtfire" lol :D

artofmagic

United States1951 Posts

January 17 2006 11:14 GMT

#25

i bet everyone who checked this topic, expected something else..

to miss the mark

Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts

January 17 2006 11:26 GMT

#26

On January 17 2006 20:14 artofmagic wrote:
i bet everyone who checked this topic, expected something else..

Really?

Mynock

4492 Posts

January 17 2006 11:36 GMT

#27

On January 17 2006 19:50 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Honestly Mynock, how long had you been planning on doing this?

Haha, good question, I first had the idea 3 days ago, just didn't want to go on any forums while studying... :/

-Mynock

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

January 17 2006 12:34 GMT

#28

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miNi

Korea (South)2010 Posts

January 17 2006 12:37 GMT

#29

i still don't get the joke...

MoltkeWarding

5195 Posts

January 17 2006 13:15 GMT

#30

Unfortunately, the designation on this Mk XI spitfire is PR (Photographic reconaissance) meaning they are unarmed.

Not that it matters, even an armed Mk IX spitfire is no match in air to air combat against a 262, but at least it would have been a fight. :/

Xeroth

United States432 Posts

January 17 2006 13:22 GMT

#31

I'll fucking kill you.

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

January 17 2006 13:40 GMT

#32

people seem to forget that the hurricane was the incredible fighting airplane and the spitfire was hyped by the government to boost morale because its pretty

but thats not what this thread is about

Ack1027

United States7873 Posts

January 17 2006 13:48 GMT

#33

On January 17 2006 22:15 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Unfortunately, the designation on this Mk XI spitfire is PR (Photographic reconaissance) meaning they are unarmed.

Not that it matters, even an armed Mk IX spitfire is no match in air to air combat against a 262, but at least it would have been a fight. :/

Why?

rpf289

United States3524 Posts

January 17 2006 14:02 GMT

#34

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MoltkeWarding

5195 Posts

January 17 2006 14:08 GMT

#35

On January 17 2006 22:48 Ack1027 wrote:

Show nested quote +

Why?

Here is a chart of WW2 fighters: Speed in Km/h vs Altitude in M

Blue = Spitfire Mk. IX (on which the Mk. XI was based)
Green = P51 Mustang
Yellow = Spitfire Mk.21
Red = Me-262

http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/gustin_military/perf/perf.html

Manifesto7

Osaka27177 Posts

January 17 2006 14:22 GMT

#36

I love you Moltke.

Would you like to play the speculative historian and tell me your opinion? Had germany not focused so much on the V rockets and successfully completed the development of their jet aircraft, would it have changed the outcome of the war? I wrote a paper on this a couple years ago and found it an interesting topic.

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

January 17 2006 14:47 GMT

#37

Mani you know as well as the rest of us that if Germany's fighter aircraft had better range Britain would have been fucked

I don't really know how good germany's preliminary jet fighters were on range (the focke wulfe was a hunk of junk, come on) but if their early efforts could give them the boost they needed in time, Britain would be mangled and it would be germany versus us, the americans, and the ruskies. I don't think they could have held their territory for long (especially if they'd occupied Britain as well) considering how fast they fell after Normandy.