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Left4Cookies
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Denmark803 Posts
August 08 2012 09:46 GMT
#881
On August 08 2012 18:35 ZaplinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 18:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/greeley-haven.html

it might take a bit to load but it is worth the wait


this is very cool, thanks for sharing


Opportunity hasn't got a full-color camera like Curiosity, right?

Engineering's like math. But LOUDER!
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 10:03:37
August 08 2012 09:55 GMT
#882
On August 08 2012 18:44 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 06:03 xrapture wrote:
I guess I'll never understand the importance of these types of things or why everyone gets so excited. To me, it just seems like a waste of 2.5 billion dollars that will accomplish very little (virtually nothing).

Even after I read 2 pages of why the Curiosity rover is important I can't see the value in it.

I hear you bro. I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere.

So I guess the correct decision is to leave this very important decision (and actually relatively small cost in the big scope of things) to people who actually understand its importance. =D


On August 08 2012 03:09 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 12:15 Perdac Curall wrote:
To those saying that space exploration is a waste of money and isn't practical you should watch this movie:



The Apollo project has been analysed in many different studies over the years, and it is estimated that for every one dollar invested in Apollo, the government recieved 14 dollars in new tax revenue from economic activity that would not have taken place if it were not for Apollo. It represented really the last time the US has seen real physical economic growth. The 14:1 number is not even that current because the studies were all done decades ago and much of the technological breakthroughs achieved during Apollo are still with us today providing economic benefits.

Manned missions to Mars would almost certainly require fusion rockets to get us there and back. That fusion could be harnessed to give cheap and abundant energy to everyone on Earth. Is that not practical enough for you? There are a myriad of innovations and improvements to quality of life that can only come from advanced science driver missions like space exploration.


Earlier in this thread a great video was linked about a book showing how to get to Mars and back using technology that was very feasible 10 years ago. No fusion, nothing that isn't already fully possible. Basically saying we have had the technology to go there for a long time, nobody is funding it though.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 15:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The Case for Mars by Robert Zubrin. Read it.




That video from Robert Zubrin is amazing. haha. Something like that is seriously something worth investing into.


On August 08 2012 18:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/greeley-haven.html

it might take a bit to load but it is worth the wait


That is fantastic. I can't wait until more of Curiosity's features get online and we start to gain access to many more images and videos from Mars. And I also can't wait to see what the conspiracy nuts will come up with while shifting through this data. Oh, I see that this is from Opportunity.
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
August 08 2012 09:57 GMT
#883
On August 08 2012 18:46 Left4Cookies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 18:35 ZaplinG wrote:
On August 08 2012 18:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/greeley-haven.html

it might take a bit to load but it is worth the wait


this is very cool, thanks for sharing


Opportunity hasn't got a full-color camera like Curiosity, right?



Sure it has couples of cameras
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:44:37
August 08 2012 12:42 GMT
#884
On August 08 2012 18:44 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 06:03 xrapture wrote:
I guess I'll never understand the importance of these types of things or why everyone gets so excited. To me, it just seems like a waste of 2.5 billion dollars that will accomplish very little (virtually nothing).

Even after I read 2 pages of why the Curiosity rover is important I can't see the value in it.

I hear you bro. I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere.


The Curiosity program started about eight years ago, and has cost you personally around $7.

Now, if you can tell me, hand on heart, that you haven't spent at least $7 over the past eight years on something more frivolous than exploring another fucking planet, I will join my voice with yours in condemnation. And eat my car.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:57:57
August 08 2012 12:57 GMT
#885
On August 08 2012 21:42 Umpteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 18:44 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:03 xrapture wrote:
I guess I'll never understand the importance of these types of things or why everyone gets so excited. To me, it just seems like a waste of 2.5 billion dollars that will accomplish very little (virtually nothing).

Even after I read 2 pages of why the Curiosity rover is important I can't see the value in it.

I hear you bro. I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere.


The Curiosity program started about eight years ago, and has cost you personally around $7.

Now, if you can tell me, hand on heart, that you haven't spent at least $7 over the past eight years on something more frivolous than exploring another fucking planet, I will join my voice with yours in condemnation. And eat my car.


Let me help you understand a posting which is written in your mothertongue and foreign to me.

"I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere."

See how he used "we", and "us"? Hes not talking about spending 7 dollars in 8 years. Hes talking about the billions which for example would be better used (at least to me as a european) in american education. You're welcome.

Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 13:03:39
August 08 2012 13:01 GMT
#886
On August 08 2012 21:42 Umpteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 18:44 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:03 xrapture wrote:
I guess I'll never understand the importance of these types of things or why everyone gets so excited. To me, it just seems like a waste of 2.5 billion dollars that will accomplish very little (virtually nothing).

Even after I read 2 pages of why the Curiosity rover is important I can't see the value in it.

I hear you bro. I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere.


The Curiosity program started about eight years ago, and has cost you personally around $7.

Now, if you can tell me, hand on heart, that you haven't spent at least $7 over the past eight years on something more frivolous than exploring another fucking planet, I will join my voice with yours in condemnation. And eat my car.


Hey everytime you are going to spend $7 on stupid stuff. Think twice plz, and send the money too me instead.

And btw I also want to be paid for all your previous "stupid" spending behaviour, because your previous stupid spending behaviour justifies me taking money from you.

Thx in advance.

Btw: You don't really have a choice. You have to pay me, or you will be put in jail..


Some times logic is a bitch.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 08 2012 13:06 GMT
#887
On August 08 2012 21:57 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:42 Umpteen wrote:
On August 08 2012 18:44 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:03 xrapture wrote:
I guess I'll never understand the importance of these types of things or why everyone gets so excited. To me, it just seems like a waste of 2.5 billion dollars that will accomplish very little (virtually nothing).

Even after I read 2 pages of why the Curiosity rover is important I can't see the value in it.

I hear you bro. I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere.


The Curiosity program started about eight years ago, and has cost you personally around $7.

Now, if you can tell me, hand on heart, that you haven't spent at least $7 over the past eight years on something more frivolous than exploring another fucking planet, I will join my voice with yours in condemnation. And eat my car.


Let me help you understand a posting which is written in your mothertongue and foreign to me.

"I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere."

See how he used "we", and "us"? Hes not talking about spending 7 dollars in 8 years. Hes talking about the billions which for example would be better used (at least to me as a european) in american education. You're welcome.




Why do somany europeans always think they know better what to do with other people's money? lolol.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
August 08 2012 13:07 GMT
#888
On August 08 2012 22:06 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:57 m4inbrain wrote:
On August 08 2012 21:42 Umpteen wrote:
On August 08 2012 18:44 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:03 xrapture wrote:
I guess I'll never understand the importance of these types of things or why everyone gets so excited. To me, it just seems like a waste of 2.5 billion dollars that will accomplish very little (virtually nothing).

Even after I read 2 pages of why the Curiosity rover is important I can't see the value in it.

I hear you bro. I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere.


The Curiosity program started about eight years ago, and has cost you personally around $7.

Now, if you can tell me, hand on heart, that you haven't spent at least $7 over the past eight years on something more frivolous than exploring another fucking planet, I will join my voice with yours in condemnation. And eat my car.


Let me help you understand a posting which is written in your mothertongue and foreign to me.

"I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere."

See how he used "we", and "us"? Hes not talking about spending 7 dollars in 8 years. Hes talking about the billions which for example would be better used (at least to me as a european) in american education. You're welcome.




Why do somany europeans always think they know better what to do with other people's money? lolol.


Because it was an american who posted what i quoted, you smartass?
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
August 08 2012 13:10 GMT
#889
the thing is if they find any UFOs or anything they wont share the footage etc, I think they'll announce that they have find some microorganisms or fossils though
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 08 2012 13:12 GMT
#890
On August 08 2012 21:57 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:42 Umpteen wrote:
On August 08 2012 18:44 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:03 xrapture wrote:
I guess I'll never understand the importance of these types of things or why everyone gets so excited. To me, it just seems like a waste of 2.5 billion dollars that will accomplish very little (virtually nothing).

Even after I read 2 pages of why the Curiosity rover is important I can't see the value in it.

I hear you bro. I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere.


The Curiosity program started about eight years ago, and has cost you personally around $7.

Now, if you can tell me, hand on heart, that you haven't spent at least $7 over the past eight years on something more frivolous than exploring another fucking planet, I will join my voice with yours in condemnation. And eat my car.


Let me help you understand a posting which is written in your mothertongue and foreign to me.

"I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere."

See how he used "we", and "us"? Hes not talking about spending 7 dollars in 8 years. Hes talking about the billions which for example would be better used (at least to me as a european) in american education. You're welcome.




The US already spends more money on education than most EU countries even calculated on a per capita basis. Some problems are not solved by throwing more money at it, so the billions (which actually isn't much on a country level) wouldn't help there.

Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 13:18:03
August 08 2012 13:17 GMT
#891
NASA is dirt cheap and has always been worth the cost. People are seriously questioning whether the landing was worth the money?

That's just straight ignorant.

We spent 7 billion this year on potato chips. Lets see a complaint about those. 3 times the complaints please.
twitch.tv/medrea
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
August 08 2012 13:26 GMT
#892
On August 08 2012 22:17 Medrea wrote:
NASA is dirt cheap and has always been worth the cost. People are seriously questioning whether the landing was worth the money?

That's just straight ignorant.

We spent 7 billion this year on potato chips. Lets see a complaint about those. 3 times the complaints please.


Nice post:
1) No sources (needed for that kind post).
2) You think subjective values can be rationalized as objective values.

Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 13:38:15
August 08 2012 13:28 GMT
#893
Fuk it. No point in posting what won't get read.
twitch.tv/medrea
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 08 2012 13:32 GMT
#894
Seriously, create a seperate thread for this economics bullshit. This is about the Mars Rover Curiosity, not anybodies take on how American tax dollars should be spent.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 13:38:28
August 08 2012 13:37 GMT
#895
For a nuclear powered device you'd think it would be more capable than .2 MPH heh. Can't wait till it starts drilling. Im expecting us to find salt, a ton of salt.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 08 2012 13:43 GMT
#896
Yeah, please keep this thread about posting pictures from curiosity and updates on it. Not about anything else ;;
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
August 08 2012 14:12 GMT
#897
MERICAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 14:26:07
August 08 2012 14:13 GMT
#898
On August 08 2012 18:44 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 06:03 xrapture wrote:
I guess I'll never understand the importance of these types of things or why everyone gets so excited. To me, it just seems like a waste of 2.5 billion dollars that will accomplish very little (virtually nothing).

Even after I read 2 pages of why the Curiosity rover is important I can't see the value in it.

I hear you bro. I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere.


I am going to keep posting this link until you actually read it.

A list of uses private industry has found for technologies created by NASA and NASA's subcontractors since the 1970s.

Edit: Note such gems in the 1970s as packaged food and quartz crystal clocks (which, in case you were curious, are what every computer currently uses as a time reference for its processor).

Further note their innovations in the last few years in the fields of online security, HVAC systems (air conditioners), fuel pollutant control, fly-by-wire (which, by the way, gave me my first job as a software engineer), and global positioning systems
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POiNTx
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 14:20:56
August 08 2012 14:19 GMT
#899
On August 08 2012 23:13 Vega62a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 18:44 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:03 xrapture wrote:
I guess I'll never understand the importance of these types of things or why everyone gets so excited. To me, it just seems like a waste of 2.5 billion dollars that will accomplish very little (virtually nothing).

Even after I read 2 pages of why the Curiosity rover is important I can't see the value in it.

I hear you bro. I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere.


I am going to keep posting this link until you actually read it.

A list of uses private industry has found for technologies created by NASA since the 1970s.

That link should be put in the disclaimer on top of this thread and in the OP.


There will be a News Briefing at 10 a.m. PDT. That is in 2:40 hours if I am not mistaken.

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Mtuhk
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland129 Posts
August 08 2012 14:44 GMT
#900
On August 08 2012 21:57 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:42 Umpteen wrote:
On August 08 2012 18:44 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On August 07 2012 06:03 xrapture wrote:
I guess I'll never understand the importance of these types of things or why everyone gets so excited. To me, it just seems like a waste of 2.5 billion dollars that will accomplish very little (virtually nothing).

Even after I read 2 pages of why the Curiosity rover is important I can't see the value in it.

I hear you bro. I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere.


The Curiosity program started about eight years ago, and has cost you personally around $7.

Now, if you can tell me, hand on heart, that you haven't spent at least $7 over the past eight years on something more frivolous than exploring another fucking planet, I will join my voice with yours in condemnation. And eat my car.


Let me help you understand a posting which is written in your mothertongue and foreign to me.

"I still think whatever we can learn from that rover and the mission is not worth the money it cost us, and it is money we could have used elsewhere."

See how he used "we", and "us"? Hes not talking about spending 7 dollars in 8 years. Hes talking about the billions which for example would be better used (at least to me as a european) in american education. You're welcome.


To be fair, only a fraction of the cost was actually "lost" to american citizens, since most of the money was spent on research & development, mission planning, hardware manufacture etc. and this money is still in circulation, it wasn't packed into duffel bags and sent to Mars. It was paid to companies, employees and organizations affiliated with the mission, while only the raw materials used to build Curiosity and it's associated craft, fuels etc. are "missing" from our planet, which i'd assume isn't more than few percent of the total cost of the mission.
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