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dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
August 06 2012 22:18 GMT
#521
this thread won't be biased at all!
i love you
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
August 06 2012 23:13 GMT
#522
On August 07 2012 07:18 joon wrote:
this thread won't be biased at all!

This thread wasn't biased at all!
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
gnr9292
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
90 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 01:50:59
August 07 2012 01:49 GMT
#523
Not sure how shooting competitions are composed of more physical prowess than playing a video game.
Im sure lifting a hand gun and pulling the trigger needs much endurance and physical skills.

To all those that make an argument about the physical element of the Olympics how are the shooting competitions
or archery more physical compared to playing a video game.

you don't even move your wrists to shoot a gun, you only need to pull one finger and lift a light hand gun.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 02:00:25
August 07 2012 01:57 GMT
#524
On August 07 2012 10:49 gnr9292 wrote:
Not sure how shooting competitions are composed of more physical prowess than playing a video game.
Im sure lifting a hand gun and pulling the trigger needs much endurance and physical skills.

To all those that make an argument about the physical element of the Olympics how are the shooting competitions
or archery more physical compared to playing a video game.

you don't even move your wrists to shoot a gun, you only need to pull one finger and lift a light hand gun.


You actually need good steady arms in archery. Did I forget to mention strength? You aren't helping your argument. -_-

Not to mention, target sports are much easier to follow and get into. Who doesn't play darts at the bar?

There are many reasons why video games will be blocked out of the Olympic games. Tetris is somewhat timeless and if we're talking about the classic version. Yes not much has changed. That's the only reason it's still being discussed.
BabyGiraldo
Profile Joined February 2011
United States135 Posts
August 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#525
God help me if any video game ever makes it into the olympics. Not that there is even the slightest chance of that happening
In 1776 all men were created equal, in 1855 all of that changed.
Tomba
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway106 Posts
August 07 2012 02:09 GMT
#526
To all the people writing stuff like: "It's the end of my life if this happens" or "God help me if it happens" etc, and "This can't happen ever".

Who are you trying to convince? yourself or others?
BabyGiraldo
Profile Joined February 2011
United States135 Posts
August 07 2012 02:20 GMT
#527
On August 07 2012 11:09 Tomba wrote:
To all the people writing stuff like: "It's the end of my life if this happens" or "God help me if it happens" etc, and "This can't happen ever".

Who are you trying to convince? yourself or others?

I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm stating an opinion.
In 1776 all men were created equal, in 1855 all of that changed.
gnr9292
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
90 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 02:27:23
August 07 2012 02:20 GMT
#528
On August 07 2012 10:57 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 10:49 gnr9292 wrote:
Not sure how shooting competitions are composed of more physical prowess than playing a video game.
Im sure lifting a hand gun and pulling the trigger needs much endurance and physical skills.

To all those that make an argument about the physical element of the Olympics how are the shooting competitions
or archery more physical compared to playing a video game.

you don't even move your wrists to shoot a gun, you only need to pull one finger and lift a light hand gun.


You actually need good steady arms in archery. Did I forget to mention strength? You aren't helping your argument. -_-

Not to mention, target sports are much easier to follow and get into. Who doesn't play darts at the bar?

There are many reasons why video games will be blocked out of the Olympic games. Tetris is somewhat timeless and if we're talking about the classic version. Yes not much has changed. That's the only reason it's still being discussed.


Im talking to people who argued about the physical aspects of the Olympics. Which seems like the most occurring argument.

Im sure buying a hand gun and going to the range is easier to get into than buying a game and turning on a computer, which almost every household. Also how does the easiness to get into a sport have any correlation of a sport being a legitimate Olympic sport? Im sure fencing or equestrian are sooo much easier to get into than video games, considering more people play wow than these sports combined.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
August 07 2012 02:22 GMT
#529
I hate this.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
WiredBomb
Profile Joined May 2005
United States398 Posts
August 07 2012 02:42 GMT
#530
You know this is nothing new right? Starcraft was being thought of being possibly introduced in the Olympics back in 2004.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=18322
Boom ready or not, here it comes.
LeSioN
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
August 07 2012 02:51 GMT
#531
soo is their any link to actual news or only the fox news report? fox news has terrible fact checking. how do we know its officially being considered and where can we support it?
Someone needs to tell the truth, but it shouldn't be my job.
PlacidPanda
Profile Joined September 2011
United States246 Posts
August 07 2012 02:56 GMT
#532
Why is LoL on there? This isn't the paralympics is it? BA BAM. Jkjk but if we could get even one of these into the olympics it would be a major step for eSports long term viability.!!
Squirtle Hwaitting!!
Glockateer
Profile Joined June 2009
United States254 Posts
August 07 2012 02:56 GMT
#533
There's a few olympic sports that don't take much physical ability. I'm not for or against SC2 in the future, I'm just stating that that isn't a good argument even though the majority of the sports have high/extreme physical exertion.
GET SM4SHED
LeSioN
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
August 07 2012 02:58 GMT
#534
On August 04 2012 20:53 rezzan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 07:30 aeroblaster wrote:
You put LoL up on that list but not Dota 2? mega hard fail dude



Dota is never gonna get bigger than LoL as it is today and anytime in the future.

now i got dota beta and that game is okay,but its just another Hon remake,imho.


you realize that HoN and LoL are both remakes of DotA? the original DoTa was made as a custom game for war3 and spawned the moba scene, hence why people believe it will take over...because its the original.
Someone needs to tell the truth, but it shouldn't be my job.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
August 07 2012 03:00 GMT
#535
I couldn't see them ever approving of it. The big problem I see, is that video games are short-lived when compared to the life-span of olympic sports. A big part of the olympics is tradition. SC2 has very little in the way of tradition when compared to sports that have been around for hundreds of years, or at at the very least decades. SC2 could very well be dead in 7 or 8 years... which would mean it might make one or two appearances tops

Yeah, the more I think about it the more silly it seems haha
=)=
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
August 07 2012 03:03 GMT
#536
On August 07 2012 12:00 itkovian wrote:
I couldn't see them ever approving of it. The big problem I see, is that video games are short-lived when compared to the life-span of olympic sports. A big part of the olympics is tradition. SC2 has very little in the way of tradition when compared to sports that have been around for hundreds of years, or at at the very least decades. SC2 could very well be dead in 7 or 8 years... which would mean it might make one or two appearances tops

Yeah, the more I think about it the more silly it seems haha

Then what better event is there than chess? It has more tradition than at least half of all the other sports, plus it takes an insane amount of skill. Since it's not included, I don't think that the issue is solely lack of tradition; it is also a lack of physical greatness.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 03:04:56
August 07 2012 03:03 GMT
#537
On August 07 2012 11:56 Glockateer wrote:
There's a few olympic sports that don't take much physical ability. I'm not for or against SC2 in the future, I'm just stating that that isn't a good argument even though the majority of the sports have high/extreme physical exertion.


Its questionable how much of an element physical ability (i.e. dexterity) has in SC2 though. With shooting or archery that's basically the whole thing, which logically makes it that much more demanding as it determines a gold from fifth place finish.

With SC2 it could simply be a really well-planned build order with generic micro that wins you the game; which isn't exactly what the Olympics are designed for. Its uncertain to what degree intelligent actions have on game play but I would assume its quite high. Basically everyone seems to macro at about the same speed (apm).

And if the olympics ever did allow games that were primarily mentally focused, chess would almost certainly be admitted first. Only after would they consider these types of video games. Although there could certainly be some games admitted on the basis of being mostly dexterity, like Quake death-match games.
LeSioN
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
August 07 2012 03:28 GMT
#538
The precise definition of what separates a sport from other leisure activities varies between sources, with no universally agreed definition. The closest to an international agreement on a definition is provided by SportAccord, which is the association for all the largest international sports federations (including association football, american football, cycling, equestrian sports, baseball and more), and is therefore the de facto representative of international sport.
SportAccord uses the following criteria, determining that a sport should:[1]
have an element of competition
be in no way harmful to any living creature
not rely on equipment provided by a single supplier (excluding proprietary games such as arena football)
not rely on any 'luck' element specifically designed in to the sport


this is the definition that the olympics use for sports. sports would be something like aquatics which includes the discipline of water polo.

so most likely esports will never be in the olympics due to the "not rely on equipment provided by a single supplier" part

but it is possible that esports could be an exception and each game would then be a discipline. considering the amount of growing interest in esports i would say its a definite possibility. although it wont be possible until there is a recognized international governing body for esports.

i would like to know where fox news got their information. is there anywhere to see things being considered by the IOC?
Someone needs to tell the truth, but it shouldn't be my job.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
August 07 2012 03:52 GMT
#539
On August 07 2012 12:03 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 12:00 itkovian wrote:
I couldn't see them ever approving of it. The big problem I see, is that video games are short-lived when compared to the life-span of olympic sports. A big part of the olympics is tradition. SC2 has very little in the way of tradition when compared to sports that have been around for hundreds of years, or at at the very least decades. SC2 could very well be dead in 7 or 8 years... which would mean it might make one or two appearances tops

Yeah, the more I think about it the more silly it seems haha

Then what better event is there than chess? It has more tradition than at least half of all the other sports, plus it takes an insane amount of skill. Since it's not included, I don't think that the issue is solely lack of tradition; it is also a lack of physical greatness.


Yeah, there are certainly more reasons than I mentioned. I just think tradition is an easy way to disqualify starcraft. Just as physical capability would be an easy way to disqualify chess
=)=
bellsNkeys
Profile Joined November 2011
United States52 Posts
August 07 2012 04:24 GMT
#540
People need to understand that history and tradition play a very big role in the Olympics. Sc2 isn't going to be around long enough to compare players from different eras and such. The game also changes too much unlike all of the other Olympic events. Sure basketball, soccer, and such may play at a different pace and such than before, but the game is virtually the same. 20 years later people are comparing the 2012 USA basketball team to the dream team. 20 years from now I'm hoping sc3 is out by then. You can't incorporate something into the Olympics that doesn't have the historic element that all the sports that are currently in it do. It's part of what the Olympics stand for. A video game would need to remain the same and not ever get outdated (Tetris could work but ehh).

Olympic sports are also geared towards the general audience. For example, I know nothing about swimming but I can clearly see Michael Phelps is a beast. I know nothing about track and field, but I can watch Usain Bolt and be mesmerized. Now if somebody that knows absolutely nothing about sc2 were to watch over the shoulder of let's say a Mvp vs SeleCT game, the general viewer couldn't tell the difference between either until they see the win and loss column.

I love sc2, but let's be real. It doesn't belong in the Olympics. There are more factors to the Olympics than just current competition. I'd really like to see a huge e-sports Olympic style event though that would have every competitive game out there. CoD, Halo, Sc2, MvC, Street Fighter, Tetris, LoL, etc. A much bigger version of MLG basically.
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