EPTStarcraft II Considered For Future Olympics - Page 27
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dragoon
United States695 Posts
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On August 07 2012 07:18 joon wrote: this thread won't be biased at all! This thread wasn't biased at all! | ||
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gnr9292
90 Posts
Im sure lifting a hand gun and pulling the trigger needs much endurance and physical skills. To all those that make an argument about the physical element of the Olympics how are the shooting competitions or archery more physical compared to playing a video game. you don't even move your wrists to shoot a gun, you only need to pull one finger and lift a light hand gun. | ||
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StarStruck
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On August 07 2012 10:49 gnr9292 wrote: Not sure how shooting competitions are composed of more physical prowess than playing a video game. Im sure lifting a hand gun and pulling the trigger needs much endurance and physical skills. To all those that make an argument about the physical element of the Olympics how are the shooting competitions or archery more physical compared to playing a video game. you don't even move your wrists to shoot a gun, you only need to pull one finger and lift a light hand gun. You actually need good steady arms in archery. Did I forget to mention strength? You aren't helping your argument. -_- Not to mention, target sports are much easier to follow and get into. Who doesn't play darts at the bar? There are many reasons why video games will be blocked out of the Olympic games. Tetris is somewhat timeless and if we're talking about the classic version. Yes not much has changed. That's the only reason it's still being discussed. | ||
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BabyGiraldo
United States135 Posts
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Tomba
Norway106 Posts
Who are you trying to convince? yourself or others? | ||
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BabyGiraldo
United States135 Posts
On August 07 2012 11:09 Tomba wrote: To all the people writing stuff like: "It's the end of my life if this happens" or "God help me if it happens" etc, and "This can't happen ever". Who are you trying to convince? yourself or others? I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm stating an opinion. | ||
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gnr9292
90 Posts
On August 07 2012 10:57 StarStruck wrote: You actually need good steady arms in archery. Did I forget to mention strength? You aren't helping your argument. -_- Not to mention, target sports are much easier to follow and get into. Who doesn't play darts at the bar? There are many reasons why video games will be blocked out of the Olympic games. Tetris is somewhat timeless and if we're talking about the classic version. Yes not much has changed. That's the only reason it's still being discussed. Im talking to people who argued about the physical aspects of the Olympics. Which seems like the most occurring argument. Im sure buying a hand gun and going to the range is easier to get into than buying a game and turning on a computer, which almost every household. Also how does the easiness to get into a sport have any correlation of a sport being a legitimate Olympic sport? Im sure fencing or equestrian are sooo much easier to get into than video games, considering more people play wow than these sports combined. | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
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WiredBomb
United States398 Posts
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LeSioN
United States325 Posts
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PlacidPanda
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Glockateer
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LeSioN
United States325 Posts
On August 04 2012 20:53 rezzan wrote: Dota is never gonna get bigger than LoL as it is today and anytime in the future. now i got dota beta and that game is okay,but its just another Hon remake,imho. you realize that HoN and LoL are both remakes of DotA? the original DoTa was made as a custom game for war3 and spawned the moba scene, hence why people believe it will take over...because its the original. | ||
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
Yeah, the more I think about it the more silly it seems haha | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On August 07 2012 12:00 itkovian wrote: I couldn't see them ever approving of it. The big problem I see, is that video games are short-lived when compared to the life-span of olympic sports. A big part of the olympics is tradition. SC2 has very little in the way of tradition when compared to sports that have been around for hundreds of years, or at at the very least decades. SC2 could very well be dead in 7 or 8 years... which would mean it might make one or two appearances tops Yeah, the more I think about it the more silly it seems haha Then what better event is there than chess? It has more tradition than at least half of all the other sports, plus it takes an insane amount of skill. Since it's not included, I don't think that the issue is solely lack of tradition; it is also a lack of physical greatness. | ||
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
On August 07 2012 11:56 Glockateer wrote: There's a few olympic sports that don't take much physical ability. I'm not for or against SC2 in the future, I'm just stating that that isn't a good argument even though the majority of the sports have high/extreme physical exertion. Its questionable how much of an element physical ability (i.e. dexterity) has in SC2 though. With shooting or archery that's basically the whole thing, which logically makes it that much more demanding as it determines a gold from fifth place finish. With SC2 it could simply be a really well-planned build order with generic micro that wins you the game; which isn't exactly what the Olympics are designed for. Its uncertain to what degree intelligent actions have on game play but I would assume its quite high. Basically everyone seems to macro at about the same speed (apm). And if the olympics ever did allow games that were primarily mentally focused, chess would almost certainly be admitted first. Only after would they consider these types of video games. Although there could certainly be some games admitted on the basis of being mostly dexterity, like Quake death-match games. | ||
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LeSioN
United States325 Posts
The precise definition of what separates a sport from other leisure activities varies between sources, with no universally agreed definition. The closest to an international agreement on a definition is provided by SportAccord, which is the association for all the largest international sports federations (including association football, american football, cycling, equestrian sports, baseball and more), and is therefore the de facto representative of international sport. SportAccord uses the following criteria, determining that a sport should:[1] have an element of competition be in no way harmful to any living creature not rely on equipment provided by a single supplier (excluding proprietary games such as arena football) not rely on any 'luck' element specifically designed in to the sport this is the definition that the olympics use for sports. sports would be something like aquatics which includes the discipline of water polo. so most likely esports will never be in the olympics due to the "not rely on equipment provided by a single supplier" part but it is possible that esports could be an exception and each game would then be a discipline. considering the amount of growing interest in esports i would say its a definite possibility. although it wont be possible until there is a recognized international governing body for esports. i would like to know where fox news got their information. is there anywhere to see things being considered by the IOC? | ||
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
On August 07 2012 12:03 Chocolate wrote: Then what better event is there than chess? It has more tradition than at least half of all the other sports, plus it takes an insane amount of skill. Since it's not included, I don't think that the issue is solely lack of tradition; it is also a lack of physical greatness. Yeah, there are certainly more reasons than I mentioned. I just think tradition is an easy way to disqualify starcraft. Just as physical capability would be an easy way to disqualify chess | ||
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bellsNkeys
United States52 Posts
Olympic sports are also geared towards the general audience. For example, I know nothing about swimming but I can clearly see Michael Phelps is a beast. I know nothing about track and field, but I can watch Usain Bolt and be mesmerized. Now if somebody that knows absolutely nothing about sc2 were to watch over the shoulder of let's say a Mvp vs SeleCT game, the general viewer couldn't tell the difference between either until they see the win and loss column. I love sc2, but let's be real. It doesn't belong in the Olympics. There are more factors to the Olympics than just current competition. I'd really like to see a huge e-sports Olympic style event though that would have every competitive game out there. CoD, Halo, Sc2, MvC, Street Fighter, Tetris, LoL, etc. A much bigger version of MLG basically. | ||
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