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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
May 13 2012 18:15 GMT
#141
Eh, i just tell everyone I detest beer, because it's true. If I drink it'll be a cooler or something.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
May 13 2012 18:20 GMT
#142
Drink a beer. Decide if you like it or not. Hope that helps. Mindreading hasn't been invented yet, OP.
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 18:37:07
May 13 2012 18:36 GMT
#143
On May 14 2012 01:07 one-one-one wrote:
What about Liberty Ale?

I don't like it much but it's alright if you're new to IPAs.
lohi
Profile Joined May 2012
Czech Republic4 Posts
May 13 2012 18:42 GMT
#144
Really very good czech beer Staropramen
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
May 13 2012 18:53 GMT
#145
There are several good varieties of Czech beer and they are all very inexpensive within the Czech Republic compared to the sort of price you would find in the Eurozone. Staropramen is the staple beer that you will find in every restaurant and bar without exception. Budvar is sometimes known as Czechvar and is easier to find overseas than the others.

The only other beers that come to mind as beers I've enjoyed are Rickard's Red and Delirium Tremens. I had Delirium Tremens in Belgium and it's been a while, but the memory stuck with me.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 19:16:51
May 13 2012 19:00 GMT
#146
On May 13 2012 08:22 forgotten0ne wrote:
Step 1) Move to Oregon
Step 2) Go for years without ever being able to try every delicious microbrew we make.
Step 3) ?????
Step 4) Profit


This! My Irish blood found a gold mine when I moved out here lol.

Sounds like you're on the right track OP, many of these posters don't seem to understand beer enough to give you proper advice. Stouts and porters are what you should be looking for with your current preferances. Availability is sometimes problematic depending on what is available to you locally. I think Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout is distributed nationwide and pretty easy to find. Guiness might be something you'd like if you can find a pub that knows how to serve it properly- otherwise it can have a burnt/bitter taste.

Black Butte porter or Obsidian stout from Deschutes Brewing co. would probably be something you'd like if you can find it out there. I'm not familiar with the micro brew scene where you live though.

http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/brew/black-butte-xxi-porter

http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/brew/obsidian-stout

Edit: also see Cragus's post
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
May 13 2012 19:06 GMT
#147
Drink it until you like it, after that? Smooth sailing brother.
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elKaDor
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden376 Posts
May 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#148
Miller etc are imo overrated, everyone i know are like omg wtf awesome when they drink miller.

Staropramen
Heineken
and also the national beer of turkey, forgot the name but my god its awesome!

well, national beer, the most common beer
JawHun
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States151 Posts
May 13 2012 19:26 GMT
#149
The best way to do it is to -go to the breweries-. Most (if not all) breweries will give you tasters, and if you express that you don't know if you like beer or which ones you'd like, I'm sure they'll help you out. Being exposed to a ton of different microbrews will give you a much better sense on what you might like or don't like. It'll be much more rewarding than having all of us yell beer names at you which you'll have to buy full bottles of in order to taste...

If you're down in Colorado I will take you to some breweries. We are practically the beer state of the US, with over 140 microbreweries (second only to California, but they have like a billion people)! GO COLORADO!

(Special shout out to Vermont, Oregon, Maine and Montana for also being awesome beer states)
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
May 13 2012 19:32 GMT
#150
On May 14 2012 04:16 elKaDor wrote:
Miller etc are imo overrated, everyone i know are like omg wtf awesome when they drink miller.

Staropramen
Heineken
and also the national beer of turkey, forgot the name but my god its awesome!

well, national beer, the most common beer


Efes? That's at least the beer they had everywhere in Istanbul.
That' good yea. I staropramen, too. I am really into beck's since inwas born in bremen and lived there for 20 years so i am pretty used to it.
Leffes from belgium is really really good, too.
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 19:49:20
May 13 2012 19:48 GMT
#151
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 14 2012 02:49 Cragus wrote:
This thread is full of a lot of terrible suggestions, people listing their favourite beers and general idiocy. I'm going to try to break things down to the basics a bit. You have five primary contributors to flavour in beer:
Hops: There are several varieties of hops some more flavourful, some more bitter. The bittering hops content is usually what contributes a bitterness to the beer (hence the name), but not all hops are equally bitter. Hops also give citrusy, pine, etc. notes. I would say these are all 'high notes' of flavour. It would appear that the OP doesnt like a strong bitter hops character.
Barley Malt: These are your earthy notes. Different malts give different flavours, but they all have that rich base. Some hops are smoked, some are more nutty, chocolatey, etc.
Yeast: This is usually a minor effect even in bottle conditioned beers. If you have ever made bread, you'll know what to expect out of yeast. The one thing this does do that is major is the beer type is largely determined by yeast. Lager yeasts make lagers (ususally lighter beers, but woe be the person that buys an eisbock expecting a light drinking beer), and ale yeasts make ales (usually heavier weight beers with more intense flavouring, but again, its up to the brewer, some ales can be quite light).
Alcohol: Drink a shot of vodka. You now know what alcohol tastes like. It usually contributes a slight spice to high abv beers, but is generally not a primary flavour contributor to most beers.
Adjuncts: This is kind of a catchall category for everything that isnt yeast, water, barley malt, or hops. In good beer adjuncts like (but definitely not limited to) wheat, oatmeal, chocolate, and coffee are pretty common to add flavour notes to the beer). In cheap shitty beer, adjuncts like corn and rice are used to add fermentable material at a minimum of cost. If you look at Corona, an example of a weak piss beer brewed cheaply, youll find it contains water, yeast, barley malt, corn, rice, hops, ascorbic acid, and propylene glycol alginate [yum antifreeze]. Basically with adjuncts, you should be able to guess how they affect flavour (if they added spruce or juniper, it probably tastes like spruce or juniper).

With that said, it sounds like the OP likes deep tones of malt without strong bitterness or hop character. The style list at beer advocate can help you find beers that fit the need, but I'll try to name some styles off the top of my head that fit well:
Doppelbock - strong german lagers that are malty without heavy hop character
Scotch ale/Wee Heavy - Scottish beers that are sweet and malty with no bitterness
Belgian dark ales - Very malty, not very hoppy, sweetish, very high abv
Milk stout - Contains milk [or at least milk sugars]. Sweet [too sweet for my taste], malty, little hop character
Belgian dubbels, tripels, and quads - very very malty, very very high abv, kind of sweet, low hop character
American/English porters/stouts - This is a mixed bag, some are bitter, some arent. All are very malty.

Strong antirecommendation:
Anything "Imperial" - these are usually very hoppy and/or very bitter (Imperial Russian Stout, Imperial IPA, etc.)
Anything "Pale Ale" - usually quite hoppy, enerally light malt character (NB: IPA = India Pale Ale and should be avoided, all true IPAs are quite bitter, although some of them are just using the name [like Alexander Keiths])
Anything macrobrewed (Stella, Heineken, Molsen, American Bud, Miller, etc.) - usually just bad or bland, very few exceptions
Anything "Light" - see above

Some specific beers I would recommend:
Southern Tier Creme Brulee Stout
Southern Tier Choklat
Chimay Blue
Traquair Jacobite
Innis & Gunn Rum Cask
Celebrator Doppelbock
Unibroue La Fin Du Monde (assuming you like nutmeg)
Young's Double Chocolate Stout (guess what adjunct this has )


This is such a damn good post. I was thinking about replying earlier with some suggestions, including the Chimay Grande Réserve (the blue one), La Fin Du Monde, and Young's Double Chocolate Stout, but you covered that, and gave a lot of helpful info besides.

As for the comments ITT about it how it might be that OP just doesn't like beer, period -- that's possible, but the beers listed in the original post aren't a very good sample for determining that. There was a time not long ago where all I'd tried was stuff similar to what the OP listed, and I was wondering if I didn't have a taste for any beer at all...and then a buddy of mine bought me a pint of a local brown ale. (BTW, the first time I ever had Newcaste Brown Ale, it was a from a bottle, and it was skunked. However, I didn't know about skunking, so for quite some time, I thought that Newcastle Brown Ale was shit. [I await your snarky replies.] )
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 13 2012 19:59 GMT
#152
I'm a minor so take my word with a grain of salt, also not a heavy drinker by any means, but when i was in St. Martin and St. Maarten (same island, two sides to it) I had a carib, and i have to say, it and fosters taste the best for what i have had, but i kinda hate the taste of beer.
User was warned for too many mimes.
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 20:45:53
May 13 2012 20:33 GMT
#153
american macrobrew beers are just all bad.

some of my favorite beers:

Goose Island: Matilda (i like a lot of their beers, honker's ale, 312, etc...)
Delirium Tremens (kind of expensive its like $12/bottle, but more alcoholic)
Dogfish Head: Golden Elixir (really can't go wrong with this brand)

most of these are bit more expensive though (~8-10 bucks for a 6 pack)

if you want some decent cheap beers

simpler times (it can be found at Trader Joe's), Lionshead, Pabst Blue Ribbon, and Red Oval are all not too bad for their cost.

sounds like you should really just go out with your friends if they're into craft beers. craft beers taste completely different from the stuff you have tried, and really its a fun experience just trying all the beers, getting a little tipsy with friends and looking at the whole process. I think food/spirits production is also really interesting in a lot of ways (its a good blend of science and culture), and its interesting to compare my own opinions with that of others.

have fun!
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
May 13 2012 20:48 GMT
#154
On May 14 2012 00:33 CptBeefheart wrote:
Before this becomes an American beer sucks threat, know that there are some very good American beers brewed by smaller breweries. I'm only posting my favorite few that you can pretty much find anywhere.

Shiner - Bock, Hefeweizen, Golden, their seasonal stuff
Flying Dog - Raging Bitch, Snake Dog, a handful of others
Wild Blue + Show Spoiler +
tastes like blueberry soda but its 8%abv + Show Spoiler +
I call it rape beer

Bells is alright I had a roommate who was really into it. If you live right near a brewery I advise going because beer is better fresher

These other couple are drinkable in the strictest sense of the word, but they are the best swills you can drink if you are short on cash imo.

Pabst Blue Ribbon
Yuengling Lager


i dont think anyone is going to say american beer sucks. people are saying american macro brews are bad (which is enerally true)
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 20:52:23
May 13 2012 20:50 GMT
#155
On May 13 2012 07:50 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 07:46 Sorkoas wrote:
On May 13 2012 07:17 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
Try imported beers. American beers suck for the reasons you listed. I personally like corona or heinenken.

Why do you comment if you don't really know much about beer at all? Americans brew the best beer in the world.

For those who don't believe me:

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/top-50/
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/country/united-states/213/

This site have the biggest beer geeks in the world as members of their community. There really isn't any question whether this is correct or not.


Really, your argument is like saying all Hollywood movies suck just because you hate American Pie.



in a question about tastes there is no best or right and wrong.


no, some people have better taste than others. i'm not saying you should blindly accept what others say and just only try x beer, of course you should drink what you like, but dont pretend that everyone's opinion is equally valid.
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 21:01:42
May 13 2012 20:54 GMT
#156
Sapporo
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Pilsner Urquell
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Grolsch
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Asahi
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Kronenbourg
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Peroni
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edit: DA BEERSS!
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
cas2
Profile Joined April 2012
22 Posts
May 13 2012 21:03 GMT
#157
hard liquor
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
May 13 2012 21:07 GMT
#158
I just order whatever someone else I'm with orders or recommends, if I haven't tried it yet. So far, I have similar tastes to some, and not so much to others. I'm fairly open to trying new stuff, because obviously, you don't know if you like it or not unless you have tried it.

I find it works out pretty well. I know I can pretty much drink whatever my father does, so our tastes are similar there.
BachHo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States170 Posts
May 13 2012 21:07 GMT
#159
On May 14 2012 02:49 Cragus wrote:
This thread is full of a lot of terrible suggestions, people listing their favourite beers and general idiocy. I'm going to try to break things down to the basics a bit. You have five primary contributors to flavour in beer:
Hops: There are several varieties of hops some more flavourful, some more bitter. The bittering hops content is usually what contributes a bitterness to the beer (hence the name), but not all hops are equally bitter. Hops also give citrusy, pine, etc. notes. I would say these are all 'high notes' of flavour. It would appear that the OP doesnt like a strong bitter hops character.
Barley Malt: These are your earthy notes. Different malts give different flavours, but they all have that rich base. Some hops are smoked, some are more nutty, chocolatey, etc.
Yeast: This is usually a minor effect even in bottle conditioned beers. If you have ever made bread, you'll know what to expect out of yeast. The one thing this does do that is major is the beer type is largely determined by yeast. Lager yeasts make lagers (ususally lighter beers, but woe be the person that buys an eisbock expecting a light drinking beer), and ale yeasts make ales (usually heavier weight beers with more intense flavouring, but again, its up to the brewer, some ales can be quite light).
Alcohol: Drink a shot of vodka. You now know what alcohol tastes like. It usually contributes a slight spice to high abv beers, but is generally not a primary flavour contributor to most beers.
Adjuncts: This is kind of a catchall category for everything that isnt yeast, water, barley malt, or hops. In good beer adjuncts like (but definitely not limited to) wheat, oatmeal, chocolate, and coffee are pretty common to add flavour notes to the beer). In cheap shitty beer, adjuncts like corn and rice are used to add fermentable material at a minimum of cost. If you look at Corona, an example of a weak piss beer brewed cheaply, youll find it contains water, yeast, barley malt, corn, rice, hops, ascorbic acid, and propylene glycol alginate [yum antifreeze]. Basically with adjuncts, you should be able to guess how they affect flavour (if they added spruce or juniper, it probably tastes like spruce or juniper).

With that said, it sounds like the OP likes deep tones of malt without strong bitterness or hop character. The style list at beer advocate can help you find beers that fit the need, but I'll try to name some styles off the top of my head that fit well:
Doppelbock - strong german lagers that are malty without heavy hop character
Scotch ale/Wee Heavy - Scottish beers that are sweet and malty with no bitterness
Belgian dark ales - Very malty, not very hoppy, sweetish, very high abv
Milk stout - Contains milk [or at least milk sugars]. Sweet [too sweet for my taste], malty, little hop character
Belgian dubbels, tripels, and quads - very very malty, very very high abv, kind of sweet, low hop character
American/English porters/stouts - This is a mixed bag, some are bitter, some arent. All are very malty.

Strong antirecommendation:
Anything "Imperial" - these are usually very hoppy and/or very bitter (Imperial Russian Stout, Imperial IPA, etc.)
Anything "Pale Ale" - usually quite hoppy, enerally light malt character (NB: IPA = India Pale Ale and should be avoided, all true IPAs are quite bitter, although some of them are just using the name [like Alexander Keiths])
Anything macrobrewed (Stella, Heineken, Molsen, American Bud, Miller, etc.) - usually just bad or bland, very few exceptions
Anything "Light" - see above

Some specific beers I would recommend:
Southern Tier Creme Brulee Stout
Southern Tier Choklat
Chimay Blue
Traquair Jacobite
Innis & Gunn Rum Cask
Celebrator Doppelbock
Unibroue La Fin Du Monde (assuming you like nutmeg)
Young's Double Chocolate Stout (guess what adjunct this has )


I support this post. I also share your tastes I think, and these recommendations would be very good in helping you get into beers.
-Switch-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada506 Posts
May 13 2012 21:11 GMT
#160
I would be surprised if anyone liked beer when they first tried it.
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