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KING CHARLIE :D
United States447 Posts
On October 24 2012 01:50 DownOnMyNiece wrote: Spoken as a true man of the Church! I've been pastor of my congregation for 15 years. I believe i've earned the title "man of the church". I'd appreciate it if you'd refer to me as "pastor king charlie" from now on, I believe i've earned that as well. I can't say I agree with going "down on my niece"...unless of course if my niece was a covert member of the altar boys or church staff. | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 24 2012 01:46 KING CHARLIE :D wrote: Sorry, but Obama is not a true follower of the lamb of christ if he is selling coke. Jesus wrote on the stone tablets he gave to moses that using mind altering substances is blasphemy and that anyone who engages in mind altering practices or buys products deriven from petroleum will be banished to the darkest realms of hell with satan (and his dominion). Coke is an evil drug because it promotes sex, and sex promotes hatred. Hatred promotes jealousy and jealousy promotes the republican party. Most people prefer pepsi over coke anyway, so i'm voting for Obama. I can't even... I just don't even know. | ||
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frogrubdown
1266 Posts
On October 24 2012 01:46 KING CHARLIE :D wrote: Sorry, but Obama is not a true follower of the lamb of christ if he is selling coke. Jesus wrote on the stone tablets he gave to moses that using mind altering substances is blasphemy and that anyone who engages in mind altering practices or buys products deriven from petroleum will be banished to the darkest realms of hell with satan (and his dominion). Coke is an evil drug because it promotes sex, and sex promotes hatred. Hatred promotes jealousy and jealousy promotes the republican party. Most people prefer pepsi over coke anyway, so i'm voting for Obama. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Coke is way better than Pepsi and most people know that. | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 24 2012 01:46 KING CHARLIE :D wrote: jealousy promotes the republican party Tell me, Pastor King Charlie, if jealousy promotes the Republican Party, then why is it always Democrats who want to steal from successful people? | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:03 Swazi Spring wrote: Tell me, Pastor King Charlie, if jealousy promotes the Republican Party, then why is it always Democrats who want to steal from successful people? You don't get to call it theft until you actually prove that taxes are theft (an absolutely ridiculous notion). Last I checked, you lost that argument. | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:10 Stratos_speAr wrote: You don't get to call it theft until you actually prove that taxes are theft. Last I checked, you lost that argument. Let's argue over semantics! Nope, didn't "lose" that argument. | ||
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KING CHARLIE :D
United States447 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:03 Swazi Spring wrote: Tell me, Pastor King Charlie, if jealousy promotes the Republican Party, then why is it always Democrats who want to steal from successful people? I'm not saying ALL successful people are evil people that got their money through nefarious ways...but let's be real...99% of them are evil and stole their money from the populace. Democrats are a lot like Jesus. They take back what the evil corporate machine has stolen from people and give it back to the homeless, where it belongs. Jesus says in Leviticus "Rejoice in the heavens, for I am Lord. Thou shalt not revel in false gods such as the Republican party in 2000 years." Republicans are just jealous of homeless men being the TRUE sages of our time and steal all of their money so that they can never get their profound messages off the ground. I mean, do you think it is a coincidence that the sign of the Republican party is an elephant? Have you ever met a nice elephant? Heavens no. My vote is for Obama...change McCain can believe in. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:11 Swazi Spring wrote: Let's argue over semantics! Nope, didn't "lose" that argument. So you weren't able to back up your claim that taxes are theft; in fact, the full definition of theft was brought up and it was clearly shown that taxes do not fall into that category, yet you label this clarification as "semantics", implying that it was superfluous, and then try to say that you can continue calling taxes theft? | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:03 Swazi Spring wrote: Tell me, Pastor King Charlie, if jealousy promotes the Republican Party, then why is it always Democrats who want to steal from successful people? Both parties want to "steal" from people. Democrats believe in helping those in need, Republicans do not. It's an ideological difference. For this reason, Democrats will usually support higher taxes than Republicans. (Small amount of hyperbole in here) Edit: And who cares if he calls it theft. It's clearly a disagreement over the definition of the word and a useless discussion. Swazi is being obtuse on purpose to attempt to prove a point. | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:12 KING CHARLIE :D wrote: I'm not saying ALL successful people are evil people that got their money through nefarious ways...but let's be real...99% of them are evil and stole their money from the populace. Democrats are a lot like Jesus. They take back what the evil corporate machine has stolen from people and give it back to the homeless, where it belongs. Jesus says in Leviticus "Rejoice in the heavens, for I am Lord. Thou shalt not revel in false gods such as the Republican party in 2000 years." Republicans are just jealous of homeless men being the TRUE sages of our time and steal all of their money so that they can never get their profound messages off the ground. I mean, do you think it is a coincidence that the sign of the Republican party is an elephant? Have you ever met a nice elephant? Heavens no. My vote is for Obama...change McCain can believe in. Thank you, Pastor King Charlie, your biblical insight has once again triumphed over the forces of the Satan (Republicans). | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html Catchy headlines aren't always a good idea. I bet Romney is kicking himself in the ass for writing a headline that's so easily misquoted. Although Obama didn't misquote it. At the end of the article it says: The American auto industry is vital to our national interest as an employer and as a hub for manufacturing. A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs. It would permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension and real estate costs. The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk. In a managed bankruptcy, the federal government would propel newly competitive and viable automakers, rather than seal their fate with a bailout check. Romney called for a managed bankruptcy, i.e. privately financed. He says that the government should guarantee financing AFTER the bankruptcy. He did NOT call for the government to bailout the auto industry, which is what happened. In the last sentence, he even rejects a government bailout. But, no private financing was available at the time, because this happened in the middle of the global financial crisis. It had to be a government bailout. So not only was Romney wrong about what he said, what he said wasn't possible. | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:14 Stratos_speAr wrote: So you weren't able to back up your claim that taxes are theft; in fact, the full definition of theft was brought up and it was clearly shown that taxes do not fall into that category, yet you label this clarification as "semantics", implying that it was superfluous, and then try to say that you can continue calling taxes theft? Again, you're arguing semantics, over what you personally define "theft" as. Taxation is theft because it presumes the government has a higher claim to your money than you do. The Founding Fathers and John Locke also recognized that taxation was theft, albeit a necessary evil. The three fundamental natural rights all people have are to: life, liberty, and the fruits of your labor (property). Hence the fruits of your labor being a fundamental natural right. | ||
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KING CHARLIE :D
United States447 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:15 Swazi Spring wrote: Thank you, Pastor King Charlie, your biblical insight has once again triumphed over the forces of the Satan (Republicans). All the answers are through Christ (our lord). The only way the Republicans are winning the election is if the Rapture happens on Nov. 3rd. Because then, all of the benevolent crusaders (Democrats) will be taken to the playground in the sky at the hem of our King (Christ the Lord). and the evil Republicans will be left to vote for their evil ways until Armageddon comes and Ben Affleck kills them all with his terrible rendition of "Leaving on a Jetplane" | ||
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Lmui
Canada6215 Posts
Anyways, I'm curious why allegations of election fraud, especially by the republican party aren't being taken more seriously. The voter registration fraud, inconsistencies in voting results and generally the apathetic response to the undermining of a democratic process worries me. | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:24 Lmui wrote: wtf the random religious talk. Anyways, I'm curious why allegations of election fraud, especially by the republican party aren't being taken more seriously. The voter registration fraud, inconsistencies in voting results and generally the apathetic response to the undermining of a democratic process worries me. Democrats like to call any form of voter registration laws to be "racist," then again, they call everything they don't like "racist." | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:18 Swazi Spring wrote: Again, you're arguing semantics, over what you personally define "theft" as. Taxation is theft because it presumes the government has a higher claim to your money than you do. The Founding Fathers and John Locke also recognized that taxation was theft, albeit a necessary evil. The three fundamental natural rights all people have are to: life, liberty, and the fruits of your labor (property). Hence the fruits of your labor being a fundamental natural right. You keep saying semantics with a tone that implies that it's not worth talking about. If you are going to discuss anything philosophical, you need to accept that semantics are incredibly important. The entire point of taxes is that they are the dues that you owe the government for being a benefactor of society. Any respected political philosopher in history has acknowledged that society respects both your rights and duties, and taxes are part of your duty. That is where government gets its claim to your money. Democrats like to call any form of voter registration laws to be "racist," then again, they call everything they don't like "racist." Give us any credible reason for voter I.D. laws aside from limiting minorities and the poor (heavily democratic demographics) to vote and then you can brush off claims of implicit racism. | ||
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KING CHARLIE :D
United States447 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:24 Lmui wrote: wtf the random religious talk. Anyways, I'm curious why allegations of election fraud, especially by the republican party aren't being taken more seriously. The voter registration fraud, inconsistencies in voting results and generally the apathetic response to the undermining of a democratic process worries me. Well, you answered it yourself. This is a "DEMOCRATIC PROCESS"...not a republican process. Of course they aren't going to like it much. I don't see much problem with stuffing the ballot box as long as it's with votes for people running under the Democratic party, and here's why. One time my church was having a raffle for a King James Bible. They had tons of little kids putting the entries into this shoebox, all excited to win it, as if they were ever going to read or benefit from the bible in the first place. I took it upon myself, during fellowship time, to break into the raffle room and remove their entries, while putting my name in there 1000 times. I won the bible. The kids started crying, but there is NO WAY they would have used it as well as I could. I take solace in that. User was warned for this post (off topic) | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:58 JonnyBNoHo wrote: The Fed owns $1.6T of treasuries out of $16T - that's 10% not 90%. The Fed simply doesn't fund the deficit, nor is the deficit the same as monetary policy. Yep. | ||
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FecalTank
United States70 Posts
On October 24 2012 02:18 KING CHARLIE :D wrote: All the answers are through Christ (our lord). The only way the Republicans are winning the election is if the Rapture happens on Nov. 3rd. Because then, all of the benevolent crusaders (Democrats) will be taken to the playground in the sky at the hem of our King (Christ the Lord). and the evil Republicans will be left to vote for their evil ways until Armageddon comes and Ben Affleck kills them all with his terrible rendition of "Leaving on a Jetplane" I love you. | ||
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