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Steelavocado

United States2123 Posts

October 12 2012 02:15 GMT

#15181

O bananas it is time for Abortion.

imareaver3

United States906 Posts

October 12 2012 02:15 GMT

#15182

Dumb question. Do we really want the VP's personal views, or do we want legitimate policy positions?

Deathmanbob

United States2356 Posts

October 12 2012 02:15 GMT

#15183

On October 12 2012 11:14 jdseemoreglass wrote:
More moderator debating. "What's your criteria? What's your criteria?"

he cant let him dodge so easily, he has dodged almost every question.

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

October 12 2012 02:15 GMT

#15184

so... paul ryan looks like joffrey from a game of thrones.

TheTenthDoc

United States9561 Posts

October 12 2012 02:15 GMT

#15185

On October 12 2012 11:15 sc2superfan101 wrote:

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On October 12 2012 11:12 Risen wrote:

On October 12 2012 11:08 sc2superfan101 wrote:

On October 12 2012 11:05 Risen wrote:

On October 12 2012 11:03 xDaunt wrote:

On October 12 2012 11:01 Risen wrote:

On October 12 2012 11:00 Enchanted wrote:

On October 12 2012 10:56 Risen wrote:

On October 12 2012 10:54 CajunMan wrote:

On October 12 2012 10:52 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Jesus this moderator wont let Ryan talk at all.

I wonder why that is it couldn't be http://seattletimes.com/html/entertainment/2019397448_apusdebateraddatz.html

NoOOOOOO not that Obama couldn't know her personally.

Standard nonsense attack. Attack the points raised not the credibility of the people giving them. Doing so just makes you look like an ass unwilling to respond to arguments.

He's saying that she is biased towards one of the debaters, which, if you've been watching, she is. What else is there for him to say ?

How about he says oh she's biased, and you can see clear examples of it here. Instead he tries some stupid conspiracy theory nonsense.

I'll say it again. This is what the Republican party needs. Expose the lies and misrepresentations so this weak trash gets thrown out and the party gets back to sanity.

It is no secret that the moderator is a democrat. I don't really care about that. What I do care about is her performance and fairness in moderating. She clearly is not being fair.

That's a difference between us. I don't care about fair because the real world isn't fair. I care about the strongest president winning. If you have to lie/mislead people about your positions then you're weak. Your ideas should stand up on their own merit.

Biden losing it a bit atm.

what about Obama's performance in the debate? was he the "strongest president" in that one?

I don't care about debate performances. I watch these in the hopes that one day the candidates will argue ideas. At least Obama wasn't up there lying/placing a smokescreen for his ideas.

In my world, my vote is controlled by the party who places their ideas out for public scrutiny and doesn't try to mislead/lie, because that is strength to me. Right now, that's the Democratic party (libs would be closer, but I like my vote to matter)

do you, maybe, have one or two lies that you remember that you think the Republicans are telling? so you could, you know, put it out there for the public scrutiny?

Well, when Ryan said his plan was supported by a Democrat he was lying, as you could tell by his reaction when Biden called him out.

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

October 12 2012 02:15 GMT

#15186

"i dont see how someone can separate their public life, their private life or their faith"

just made himself ineligible to serve the US government.

lol

LuckyFool

United States9015 Posts

October 12 2012 02:15 GMT

#15187

ok well if this debate wasn't a zvz yet this question is like lings vs bane, 1 wrong move and ur so done

Deathmanbob

United States2356 Posts

October 12 2012 02:15 GMT

#15188

On October 12 2012 11:15 Steelavocado wrote:
O bananas it is time for Abortion.

its a big issue

paralleluniverse

4065 Posts

October 12 2012 02:15 GMT

#15189

Ryan just threw out separation of church and state.

Religion is reason and science? LOL.

Risen

United States7927 Posts

October 12 2012 02:15 GMT

#15190

Why is the moderator going to start crying?

Pusekatten

Norway234 Posts

October 12 2012 02:16 GMT

#15191

On October 12 2012 11:09 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Martha: "Lets move to another topic"
Ryan: "Can I respond?"
Martha: "No, moving on."

Later
Martha: "Lets move on to another topic
Biden: *starts talking*
Martha says nothing and lets him talk and finish
Martha: "OK, now moving on."

Moderator debating with the debaters, AND she is one sided? WTF

Didnt happend this time

Paul was finished talking
She said, now moving along to the next topic at home.

Deathmanbob

United States2356 Posts

October 12 2012 02:16 GMT

#15192

i believe in it because of science... offer nothing scientific

Defacer

Canada5052 Posts

October 12 2012 02:16 GMT

#15193

fuck, both these motherfuckers are sooooooo melodramatic.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States43771 Posts

October 12 2012 02:16 GMT

#15194

Ryan: I'm pro-life because of science and because my firstborn child looked like a bean.

CajunMan

United States823 Posts

October 12 2012 02:16 GMT

#15195

Please just let Ryan talk holy fuck sure ask him to clarify things after but holy shit he had to talk over Biden and the Moderator about Syria and humanitarian stuff. They were both staring at him and trying to talk over him shit I"d be a little flustered too.

On October 12 2012 11:15 turdburgler wrote:
"i dont see how someone can separate their public life, their private life or their faith"

just made himself ineligible to serve the US government.

lol

That is not true BT dubs

acker

United States2958 Posts

October 12 2012 02:16 GMT

#15196

Where was the science?

sc2superfan101

3583 Posts

October 12 2012 02:16 GMT

#15197

On October 12 2012 11:15 jdseemoreglass wrote:

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Nah, 2012 is a dead election. They are saving their guns for 2016, Romney is throwaway candidate.

and, to be honest, Chris Christie would probably be the worst candidate we could possibly have picked. i like the guy's spirit, and he's great for Jersey, but as a candidate? ughh....

neoghaleon55

United States7435 Posts

October 12 2012 02:17 GMT

#15198

I was just commenting on how this whole debate is like a knife fight
and luckyfool beat me to it.

lol

TheTenthDoc

United States9561 Posts

October 12 2012 02:17 GMT

#15199

Oh no, you cannot make the case that Obama supported abortion without restriction. No waaaaaay is that a legitimate case to make. I can't even imagine how you could say that.

kmillz

United States1548 Posts

October 12 2012 02:17 GMT

#15200

On October 12 2012 11:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

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The east is the most dangerous place in the world, ryan attacks him for sending less troops there while saying he doesn't want more americans in danger.

Well one could argue that insufficient troops puts the ones who are already there in more danger so I don't really see it as foot-in-mouth other than his poor wording.